Past Draft Rant Thread

[Tom Sestito]

Lol. The draft threads had people who wanted virtanen closer to 20%.

Now it's 50% of people saying they'd have taken him on the clock.

[Smashian Kassian]

what pisses me off

2006 draft - we took grabner, missed out on Giroux, Lucic

2007 draft - the patrick white vs david Perron fiasco

2008 draft - cody hodgson, missed out on Karlsson, Carlson, eberle and in the 2nd round, we took Yann Sauve and missed out on Harmonic, scandella, weiricoch

2009 - jordan schroeder, missed out on Ryan O' Reilly

2010 - ballard trade

2011 - Jensen, missed out on Jenner (we took a streaky winger over a hard nosed Canadian centre who played on the same team as this guy), brandon saad, John Gibson

2012 - Mallet, missed Damon Severson - kelowna rockets d man - really gillis? are you kidding me?

2013 - I am totally fine with Horvat and Shinkarurk, but again missed out on that big rugged d man from the W - theadore

point is we are rarely the team that drafts that gem, maybe 2013 and 2014 will change that with guys like shinkarurk, casuals, subban, tryamkin, mccann, but who knows.

every regime comes in and states "we need to draft better, we will draft better," but then they don't

Since when is Theodore a big rugged Dman? He's a midsized offensive defenseman.

And its not like drafting gems is easy, we did pretty good getting Corrado in 2011 & Cassels in 2013 (even though that was only in the 3rd round)

[StarGirl]

I picked everyone we drafted already.

[wshdrvvn]

point is we are rarely the team that drafts that gem, maybe 2013 and 2014 will change that with guys like shinkarurk, casuals, subban, tryamkin, mccann, but who knows.

every regime comes in and states "we need to draft better, we will draft better," but then they don't

Some of those guys may be gems, sure. But i can't stand casuals. Slow, lazy, and he plain acts like he doesn't give a damn game in, game out.

[-Vintage Canuck-]

At first, I wanted Ehlers, but I'm happy with the Virtanen pick after looking more into him. I'm also happy with the rest of the picks made in the past couple of years. Only time will tell whether the picks that were made were the right picks.

[Brewmaster12]

Winning on boards and having a good shot would be my pick kind of cycling. I know were not good at drafting, no feelings if non of our prospect pan out, like Einstein once said i would not let a freaking dumb drafting ruin my team

[ice orca]

Bo-Theodore-Jake-McCann.

[Gurn]

What would the Canucks look like if they had just drafted the best player available according to NHL central scouting? If they would have a better team then get rid of the scouts and just draft from the list.

Just the next best player, according to central scouting, not a player that everyone missed, that panned out.

[VegasCanuck]

Really happy with our picks! Developing really well. Time will tell, but in my opinion, we took the best players available, and the ones most likely to make it to the NHL and make an impact.

[Baer.]

Would rather have had Scherbak instead of McCann... Don't mind any of the other picks. If we had taken Nichushkin over Horvat I might not be saying that though. Shinkaruk was definitely a steal at 24...

[Warhippy]

Flames picks since 2003, first through 3rd rounds.

2003: Phaneuf, Ramholt, Donnally

2004: Chucko, Prust, Boyd

2005: Pelech, Baldwin Ryder (dan)

2006: Irving, Armstrong, Marvin

2007: Backlund, Negrin

2008: Nemiesz, Wahl, Bouma

2009: Erixon (tim), Howse

2010: Reinhardt (max) Leach

2011: Beartchi, Granlund, Wotherspoon

2012: Jankowski, Sieloff, Gillies (jon)

2013: Monahan, Poireir, Klimchuk, Kanzig

2014: Bennett, McDonald, Smith, Hickey

Now let's look at the Oilers

2003: Antione Pouliot, McDonald, Jacques, Zhukov (mikhail)

2004: Dubnyk, Schremp, Tesliuk, Paukovich

2005: Cogliano, Chorney, Syvret

2006: Petry, Peckham

2007: Gagner, Plante, Nash (riley)

2008: Eberle

2009: Paajarvi, Lander, Hesketh, Abney

2010: Hall, Pitlick, Marincin, Hamilton, Martindale

2011: Hopkins, Klefbom, Musil, Perhonen, Ewanyk

2012: Yakupov, Morov, Khaira, Zharkov

2013: Nurse, Olivier Roy, Yakimov, Slepyshev

2014: Draisatl

Now the Jets/Thrashers

2003: Coburn (Braydon)

2004: Valabik, Lewis Lehman

2005: Bourett, Pavelec, Denny

2006: Little, Holzapfel, Forney

2007: Machachek

2008: Bogosian, Lavielle, Paquette

2009: Kane, Klingberg, Morin,

2010: Burmistrov, Melchiori

2011: Scheifele, Lowry, Serville

2012: Trouba, Sutter (Lukas), Kosmachuk

2013: Morrisey, Petan, Comrie, Lodge, Lipon

2014: Ehlers, Glover (jack)

Now the reason I posted this for the first 3 rounds only is because that is where teams have the highest successes in picks that become players. We all bemoan our current draft choices but by comparison I just listed 3 teams that have every season drafted either within or around the top 15 where as we are usually up around the bottom 15 or higher. We also had numerous years under Burke, Nonis and Gillis where we had no 2nd or 3rd or even 1st round picks

We all worry about how bad it was but by comparison when you look at draft rankings...yikes we could have done so much worse.

[Dral]

we should have drafted Crosby

[Rollieo Del Fuego]

- via VanKiller Whale on hfboards; the average weight of the top sixty scorers in the NHL is 184. The 175 listed for Nylander is old, and I'm fairly sure he weighed in over 180 at Leafs training camp.

What is this BS? Kesler at 188 LBs, Hossa at 185 Lbs., most of the rest of them are way under there real weight as well, WTF?

[Rollieo Del Fuego]

If you look at it now we need Horvat more than Nich. With Kesler gone Horvat, in time, should become our 2nd line shut down C.

No one else on our prospect pool can fill that role.

Exactly!

I think Horvat has more offensive upside then Kesler showed at the same age. It will be interesting to see how that develops...

[Canorth]

Bump

For the Nylander fans lost in the Virtanen thread.

[LaBamba]

Suprised at the overwhelming Shinkurak.

His cocky attitude and lack of production should easily put Theodore ahead but, CDC loves to over rate their prospects.

[Gaudette Celly]

Suprised at the overwhelming Shinkurak.

His cocky attitude and lack of production should easily put Theodore ahead but, CDC loves to over rate their prospects.

This thread is a great idea -- provides a nice playpen for all the whiners, doubters, bed-wetters, and other crybabies to rant to their hearts' content.

[ice orca]

There was a big broughhaha about Horvat over Nichuskin and how Gillis screwed up with the pick. The thing that bothered me about Nichuskin was at the combine when he snubbed the drills and had to take a rest half way through last season because he was getting tired. Horvat doesn't strike me as a kid that needs a rest, just plays harder and better as the season gets tougher. Nichuskin will no doubt score more but Horvat will be used in more critical situations in all aspects of the game. Drafting Virtanen makes Nichuskin moot.

[Outsiders]

What is this BS? Kesler at 188 LBs, Hossa at 185 Lbs., most of the rest of them are way under there real weight as well, WTF?

lol ya kesler is 210 easily

[Outsiders]

I will say though, at 24 in this past draft, while I wanted Scherbak the most (and he is who I would have taken), Barbashev was a close 2nd, both I preferred to McCann, but even if we had taken Barbashev instead we would have got a center.

Not that I didn't like McCann, I had expected him to go before our pick, but I just really like Scherbak, especially after not taking Nichuskin the previous year.

Actually infact, I would think that if we had taken Nichuskin I wouldn't have wanted Scherbak as much since they do kind of play similar games, or atleast bring similar components, and perhaps I would have wanted a center more at our pick than Scherbak. Because really, that was my main issue with the McCann pick, was that with the 3 two-way centers we had taken in the previous few years it felt redundant.

Gaunce is now a LW.