PhillipBlunt Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Apparently with age comes not only wisdom but also repetition Yes indiddly. I mean, I'd love for Benning to craft a trade to bring Shea Weber, Alex Pietroangelo, or Brent Burns here, but I usually keep that kind of stuff to myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho_Path Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Well Sbisa really has not played well the past 2 games. Constantly in their own zone and making bad decisions for breaking out of it. Hutton IMO has made him look pretty decent. Now that he's been paired with Bartkowski, his mistakes are coming more frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Yeah I have read a few more pages of the thread. Did miss some items. I also agree, quite heavily, that we don't engage in stop gap fillers or rentals to prop us up artificially. Especially because Hamhuis is apparently also back.? Part and parcel I am surprised that some of the names on your list are rumours. Maybe I've also missed dialogue elsewhere. Others like Wideman or Russell are actually pretty logical names to be out there. Even Fowler to an extent. But not all.Now, as to us. We are currently in the business of building. So I do disagree that we should not acquire young parts we know we need. We clearly need size and physicality, a bone crunching crease clearer, on our D. Will that be Pedan? Tryamkin? We stilldo not know... And we absolutely need help on the right side of our D. Injuries or no! It would not hurt, at all, if we found a right handed twin to Hutton for example. A guy who can handle the puck and jump into plays from either side of the pond. Hamhuis and Bart are both UFA this year, so we need Pedan PLUS? There is lots of scope to suggest improving our young D, in particular the right side of our D, is the critical element to our long term health!There are young guys that could conceivably be out there. Jordan Schmaltz may never see the light of PP time in St Lou if, as u would expect, Shattenkirk, Parayko and Pietrangelo remain in their long term plans. They are all right side D. Doubt Schmaltz would even cost you Vrbata? With Petrovic & EKBLAD handling size and physical play; would Florida give up Gudbranson to make a play at FINALLY playing in the play offs before someone hands Jagr a cane? Or Petrovic who would be cheaper and exactly the 3rd pairing big nasty D we need! I'll call him DD I like him so much! Jersey, Carolina, hell even Philly are as heavily tilted in D prospects as we are in forward ones???Here's one of the links via the rumour millhttp://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nhl/rumor-roundup-lightning-look-to-move-contracts-to-re-sign-stamkos/ar-BBmKbXb?li=AAadgLE Wasn't aware Hammer was back, I know he says he's 100% but I didn't think he was playing tonight. I am not advocating not making sensible trades. I am more advocating not jumping anything right now with what we've spent so long trying to obtain simply to fill a hole. I agree there are literally dozens of possible moves to be made. For us and others. But for us right now, with some of the more popular names being tossed around it's hard to see a deal that makes sense for our org value wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoted Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Well Sbisa really has not played well the past 2 games. Constantly in their own zone and making bad decisions for breaking out of it. Hutton IMO has made him look pretty decent. Now that he's been paired with Bartkowski, his mistakes are coming more frequently.Wasn't he the 2nd Star last game?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyg43 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 can always draw on PEdan for a couple of games a big body who is not afraid to take a body an is a complement to a pmd partner.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Wasn't he the 2nd Star last game?? and 1st star on the Phoenix TV feed, with constant raves throughout the game as to how well he was playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Well they still got Weber for that and Tanev n hamhuis they've all done it once or twice Weber? When has he put it in his own net? (or were you referring to our PP forwards leaping out of the way of his cannonballs?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I think we're going to miss him sooner rather than later. Say what you want, but I'd much rather have Sbisa in a line up over Bart AND Weber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 No Prust and No Sbisa...lot of grit lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Dunno if this belongs here, but .......Why do do few defencemen hip-check nowadays? Is it an innate skill that is being lost? Can it be taught? (I grew up in Scotland and never followed hockey until I came to Canada, so many of the nuances are lost to me)I know it's not a size thing - Rob Blake was one of the best, as was Keith Ballard (6'4" and 220 vs 5'11" and 200). Are the refs calling it dirty play now? I saw Hammer get penalized for one last season that the refs called a low hit.Seems to me that if Sbisa could add a hip-check to his repertoire he would become a much more feared and effective defenceman. (Got my own answer on Google: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/archive/index.php/t-1775217.html) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caknuckle Puck Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Woo hoo! It's all good news today I mean, happy healing Luca...happy that one of our best defenders is injured? idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 happy that one of our best defenders is injured? idiot.Careful he is a mod LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Careful he is a mod LOLShe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caknuckle Puck Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Careful he is a mod LOLI don't care what he is...he's happy one of our canucks is injured, he's not a fan just an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 She I thought Deb was the only female mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caknuckle Puck Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Sbisa is a great player and deserves our respect, Hopefully he returns back to the line up soon we need him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Get two guys back, lose two guys.It always seems to work that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon45ca Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Dunno if this belongs here, but .......Why do do few defencemen hip-check nowadays? Is it an innate skill that is being lost? Can it be taught? (I grew up in Scotland and never followed hockey until I came to Canada, so many of the nuances are lost to me)I know it's not a size thing - Rob Blake was one of the best, as was Keith Ballard (6'4" and 220 vs 5'11" and 200). Are the refs calling it dirty play now? I saw Hammer get penalized for one last season that the refs called a low hit.Seems to me that if Sbisa could add a hip-check to his repertoire he would become a much more feared and effective defenceman. (Got my own answer on Google: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/archive/index.php/t-1775217.html)It's a difficult check to get the timing down, one misstep and you can seriously hurt yourself &/or the other player. Even executed properly it's real easy to hurt yourself..just look at Hamhuis in the Cup Final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tragoedia Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Can't blame Sbisa for losses now. I guess the hate will fall on Bart until he returns. Weber might get flak too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Here's one of the links via the rumour millhttp://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nhl/rumor-roundup-lightning-look-to-move-contracts-to-re-sign-stamkos/ar-BBmKbXb?li=AAadgLE Wasn't aware Hammer was back, I know he says he's 100% but I didn't think he was playing tonight. I am not advocating not making sensible trades. I am more advocating not jumping anything right now with what we've spent so long trying to obtain simply to fill a hole. I agree there are literally dozens of possible moves to be made. For us and others. But for us right now, with some of the more popular names being tossed around it's hard to see a deal that makes sense for our org value wise.Pretty reasonable Hippy.As for that list; no one beyond Fowler I would be interested in trading for. And even then, although he is worth it, I still probably don't bite. He's a lefty and we'd have to make room for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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