aGENT Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 1 minute ago, elvis15 said: That makes some sense with us being able to retain Hamhuis in that event and still have Hutton and Sbisa as other left side D. Of course, any injuries from there leaves it a little thin, but no different than our current situation on the right side. It'd depend on how much they think Edler would help upgrade their left side over Leddy and DeHaan to make it palatable. Cost as well, just because it's Edler doesn't mean we have to add more than if it were Tanev - especially if they are asking for a lot. We still might not want to do it if they aren't looking at a fairly even swap. Yeah if anything I might be looking for a pick back or something if it's Edler (as much as people around here might hate to hear it, he has more value than Tanev). Especially as they're hardly dealing from a position of strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 2 minutes ago, J.R. said: Yeah if anything I might be looking for a pick back or something if it's Edler (as much as people around here might hate to hear it, he has more value than Tanev). Especially as they're hardly dealing from a position of strength. Edler does have distinct trade value. As you have said, he's an understudy in a lead actor's role. Being farther down the depth chart in Brooklyn would take a huge amount of pressure off of him and allow him to quietly go about playing his game. Being the go to defenseman in a Canadian market with a dearth of professional sports teams, is probably more than his poor heart can bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierdaddy Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 4 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: And, aside from your very good points, the defense becomes a lot more physical with Hamonic. Tanev, while an astute and talented defenseman has very little physicality to his game, and gets laid into by other teams with regularity. Agreed. This is a no brainer. You trade from what is perceived strength to get what you really want (and more). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 17 minutes ago, Hoosierdaddy said: Agreed. This is a no brainer. You trade from what is perceived strength to get what you really want (and more). Exactly. And if the teams goal is to get into the playoffs, why not prepare yourself with the best compliment of player that can withstand the physical grind that the playoffs are. Yes, Tanev has playoff experience, but the Canucks playoff record recently isn't that great. None of the defensive core has really been a factor in the playoffs at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dura_mater Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 On 21/11/2015, 8:45:10, bobbyg43 said: Sory!I did edit already toned it down as much as was able too not meant to call them out totally like it came out that way just want more than I heard I guess in a frustrating November. Periods are your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Hamonic came out and said he'd be willing to go to Minni or Colorado. Fancy that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saucypass Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Why are we not putting out foot onto the pedal for this guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Winnipeg and Edmonton are much better trading partners than we are. If I'm the Oilers, I go all in. Hamonic is exactly what the coilers need. Wish we could make a pitch but I don't see us having the right pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 1 hour ago, dura_mater said: Periods are your friend. Well that depends on which definition of the word you're referring to. Periods aren't much fun around my house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 3 minutes ago, apollo said: Winnipeg and Edmonton are much better trading partners than we are. If I'm the Oilers, I go all in. Hamonic is exactly what the coilers need. Wish we could make a pitch but I don't see us having the right pieces. Really? Which young, established, top pair D is Edmonton sending back to NYI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 3 minutes ago, J.R. said: Really? Which young, established, top pair D is Edmonton sending back to NYI? I would love for TH to come here, but I'm thinking its Winterpeg. They have that young American kid on D, who might really interest the NYI. I forget the kids name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 36 minutes ago, J.R. said: Really? Which young, established, top pair D is Edmonton sending back to NYI? Everyone thought petry was garbage too until he went on a more defensively sound team. Maybe a Schultz package? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 1 hour ago, apollo said: Everyone thought petry was garbage too until he went on a more defensively sound team. Maybe a Schultz package? Schultz is the most incomplete Dman in the NHL, possible to ever play hockey at any level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 If it's Tanev, or Hutton no go. I'd gladly give up Edler, Vey, and Jensen. I still want to know why we didn't go after Granberg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agoork Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 A high quality right handed D is extremely difficult to find. Yes, we already have Tanev, but having 2 players like that would be way better than just 1 !! It would solidify our weak defense for years to come. The team should go all out to acquire Hamonic, even if it means overpaying. I would only balk at including Tanev or any of our top few prospects. Almost everyone else should be "considered" in any trade. If we really don't have what NYI wants, find a 3rd team (who Hamonic may not be willing to go to) who has a young D that NYI likes and get a 3 way going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caknuckle Puck Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Vrbata to Islanders Hamonic + 2nd round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 11 hours ago, apollo said: Winnipeg and Edmonton are much better trading partners than we are. If I'm the Oilers, I go all in. Hamonic is exactly what the coilers need. Wish we could make a pitch but I don't see us having the right pieces. Except... NYI will 100% ask for Nurse/Reinhart PLUS going back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 57 minutes ago, Drakrami said: Except... NYI will 100% ask for Nurse/Reinhart PLUS going back. Exactly. While the Oilers need Hamonic more than anyone else, they would be destroying more of their future than either Winnipeg or Minnesota would be. Oilers lose out on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyg43 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 11 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: If it's Tanev, or Hutton no go. I'd gladly give up Edler, Vey, and Jensen. I still want to know why we didn't go after Granberg? probably because we are at league max of 50 contracts signed .The team would have to cut loose a player ,who that would be? Granberg not sure why management is getting free ride here they should have at least issued a press release as to team in its lack of interest or percieved interest in said players. I would have gladly released a D and I know who I would cut loose to have put him in a canuck jersey. Maybe the team needs a BOT on the boards to affirm such lack of interest or interest an the rational moving forward.The enlightened folks on here hard core would see it for what it is. just saying, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 11 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: If it's Tanev, or Hutton no go. I'd gladly give up Edler, Vey, and Jensen. I still want to know why we didn't go after Granberg? Did we have a shot at him on waivers or did a team ahead of us take him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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