DeNiro Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 15 minutes ago, Alflives said: I value your opinion DeNiro. If you think he's worth the risk, I'm in too. Would you Waite to trade our first until after the lottery, just to be certain we don't win one of the top three? Definitely. I think Tampa would wanna know where the pick is too. I don't see Yzerman being in a rush to trade him until after the season. You don't rush a trade like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 26 minutes ago, Honky Cat said: If he's not in the Tampa lineup because he doesn't play a 200 ft game,I would not like his odds of getting much ice time with our current coach either......I have not really seen him play,but i'm guessing that he's playing on the perimeter. Once we trade players like Vrbata, Higgins, and Prust there will be more ice time to go around. I don't see how Drouin couldn't find ice time on our roster, especially once those 3 are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 4 minutes ago, drummerboy said: Personally, I'd do it. He is such a high risk high reward. It will Cost a premium to get him, and if he pans out it will be so worth the price. But if he doesn't, you just lost a great pick and a great prospect. It is such a tough call. I'm glad I'm not gm. Didn't Dallas only give up that older often injured guy to get Seguin? I forgot his name. He's playing well with the Bs this year. Maybe we just need to do that, and would not Edler be that guy? I accept you're keen on keeping him, but what if he's the guy TB wants for their Cup run, and they don't want futures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THERETOOL Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 21 hours ago, Honky Cat said: If he's not in the Tampa lineup because he doesn't play a 200 ft game,I would not like his odds of getting much ice time with our current coach either......I have not really seen him play,but i'm guessing that he's playing on the perimeter. well said . dont get how people miss this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I'd inquire as to what Tampa wants for him and I'd be surprised if JB hasn't, but I'm not sure what I'd be willing to give up. If it were a deal in the realm of what Turris got in return maybe, but if Tampa's expecting full value or close to it they can take their business elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 If I am using historic comparisons to put a value on Drouin. I'd say he is in the Nino Niederreiter, Sven Baertschi range of return. This is where draft position and reality cross paths. Draft position becomes completely irrelevant once a player enters the league. The fact that he is requesting a trade doesn't help his value either, much like the 2 examples above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 10 minutes ago, Alflives said: Didn't Dallas only give up that older often injured guy to get Seguin? I forgot his name. He's playing well with the Bs this year. Maybe we just need to do that, and would not Edler be that guy? I accept you're keen on keeping him, but what if he's the guy TB wants for their Cup run, and they don't want futures? Knowing our D, I don't trade Edler without D coming back. Again, that's just me. Our defense is $&!# and i wouldent want to make it worse. And Seguin was traded for Errikson. He had a couple good injuries, but is a proven, high end top 6 forward. As well as 3 decent prospects going bostons way. I think it was actually a 7 person deal. I can't remember all the guys tho. You are right though. I kinda doubt they want picks and futures. They are trying to win now. Without Edler or Tanev, I don't think we have what they want to get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 That was my 400 post. Lol. It only took 8 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, drummerboy said: That was my 400 post. Lol. It only took 8 years! It's about quality not quantity. Me on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, drummerboy said: Knowing our D, I don't trade Edler without D coming back. Again, that's just me. Our defense is $&!# and i wouldent want to make it worse. And Seguin was traded for Errikson. He had a couple good injuries, but is a proven, high end top 6 forward. As well as 3 decent prospects going bostons way. I think it was actually a 7 person deal. I can't remember all the guys tho Drouin and Seguin are not even close in terms of comparison. Seguin was already a great player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 1 minute ago, drummerboy said: That was my 400 post. Lol. It only took 8 years! Congrats on having a real life. I think the number of posts is inversely proportional to Me, I'm already in the thousands, and I just joined a few months ago! You guys have me excited about Druoin. I would like us to get him, and still draft Pulijjarvi. That would be two elite skilled forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Just now, LaBamba said: Drouin and Seguin are not even close in terms of comparison. Seguin was already a great player. I agree. Another poster used that as a comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 13 minutes ago, drummerboy said: Knowing our D, I don't trade Edler without D coming back. Again, that's just me. Our defense is $&!# and i wouldent want to make it worse. And Seguin was traded for Errikson. He had a couple good injuries, but is a proven, high end top 6 forward. As well as 3 decent prospects going bostons way. I think it was actually a 7 person deal. I can't remember all the guys tho. You are right though. I kinda doubt they want picks and futures. They are trying to win now. Without Edler or Tanev, I don't think we have what they want to get it done. I like the sound of Drouin and a top 4 pick. Get 2 birds stoned at once that way. Sure send them Eddie I say if that's what it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 Its risky but Our 2016 1st and Shinkaruk for Drouin and Tampa 2016 first? (just for the heck of the conversation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: Congrats on having a real life. I think the number of posts is inversely proportional to Me, I'm already in the thousands, and I just joined a few months ago! You guys have me excited about Druoin. I would like us to get him, and still draft Pulijjarvi. That would be two elite skilled forwards. #1 priority right now is the back end. You can have all the offensive talent in the world but if you don't have the Dmen to activate your high end forwards you're the Edmonton Oilers. If we are going to sacrifice any picks or prospects it better involve a potential top 4 Dman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, Gstank29 said: Its risky but Our 2016 1st for Drouin and Tampa 2016 first? (just for the heck of the conversation) If were going to be a top 5/top 10 pick, and we get a chance to draft Puljujarvi/Tkachuk/Chychrun/Juolevi, hell no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 13 minutes ago, Alflives said: Didn't Dallas only give up that older often injured guy to get Seguin? I forgot his name. He's playing well with the Bs this year. Maybe we just need to do that, and would not Edler be that guy? I accept you're keen on keeping him, but what if he's the guy TB wants for their Cup run, and they don't want futures? This situation's not even close to that of Seguin-Eriksson, and so neither should the return be that high. Granted Drouin does have potential but he's nowhere near the guy Seguin was when he was dealt (Tyler had 0.67 points/ game that season while Jonathan's only at 0.42). He also doesn't fit a need on this team, as Sven's also a play-maker on the smaller side and the team could sorely use scorers. If the team could package Sven for Jonathan I'd look into it but a trade comparable should look more like Turris for Rundblad (hope we get Turris) and not a 7-player blockbuster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, LaBamba said: #1 priority right now is the back end. You can have all the offensive talent in the world but if you don't have the Dmen to activate your high end forwards you're the Edmonton Oilers. If we are going to sacrifice any picks or prospects it better involve a potential top 4 Dman. Seth Jones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, Gstank29 said: Its risky but Our 2016 1st and Shinkaruk for Drouin and Tampa 2016 first? (just for the heck of the conversation) The only thing Drouin has proved so far is that he was drafted too high. Why bail Tampa out for this critical mistake made the day they drafted him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 1 hour ago, drummerboy said: I can't even tell if people are joking anymore. Some people are so damn stupid. This kid was 3rd overall just a few short years ago. The sky is the limit with him. Some dumdum thinks Higgins Weber and a 3rd will do it? Higgins and Weber. The two guys who suck so bad, we don't want them on our roster? Jesus man. We need to add picks just for someone to take these shrubs off our hands. Would you trade Maccann for Higgins and Weber? Not a chance. It was sarcasm, you obviously missed the Raymond, Ballard and a 1st era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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