Alflives Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 9 minutes ago, Warhippy said: You mistook me I think. I said blew one as a direct response to DUC I like Bear Cheese. I think he'll be a solid player for us. Just think his valuation was way off I think the jury is still out on Baer. If he is not a steady point producer, he only hurts the team. What else does he provide, when not on offence? He's not a PKer, he's not tough, he's not heavy, he's not an energy guy, he's not a puck hound, he's not a forechecker etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 His draft pedigree will allow him to garner a fair deal for the Lightning at the least. You can't just erase 3rd overall talent. Most I would offer is Virtanen and a small plus, if not forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 4 minutes ago, Alflives said: I think the jury is still out on Baer. If he is not a steady point producer, he only hurts the team. What else does he provide, when not on offence? He's not a PKer, he's not tough, he's not heavy, he's not an energy guy, he's not a puck hound, he's not a forechecker etc. Definitely, like most small offensive players, if they don't score what's the point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 We got kassian for Hodgson . Drouin wanting a trade shouldn't that raise red flags considering how good Tampa was last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Vrbata+ shinkaruk for Drouin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Tampa fans think getting Edler in exchange for Drouin would be considered a steal for them. Goes to show how people view Edler. Extremely high in value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, Odd. said: Tampa fans think getting Edler in exchange for Drouin would be considered a steal for them. Goes to show how people view Edler. Extremely high in value. Amongst defenseman, Edler is 16th in the league for TOI/G , 34th in points, 10th in blocked shots, 61st in hits. While he isn't a true number 1 dman, he is a solid top-pairing guy earning is paycheck and is still south of 30 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 7 minutes ago, Odd. said: Tampa fans think getting Edler in exchange for Drouin would be considered a steal for them. Goes to show how people view Edler. Extremely high in value. What do they think of Hansen instead of Edler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKnight Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 2 hours ago, Warhippy said: You mistook me I think. I said blew one as a direct response to DUC I like Bear Cheese. I think he'll be a solid player for us. Just think his valuation was way off My bad man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 9 minutes ago, KKnight said: My bad man! No worries, I think Baertschi is one that we won't see shine for a few seasons but every game he looks more comfortable and as such more dangerous. Blowing picks away is not something I am a fan of, baertschi I didn't and don't consider a waste at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Plow Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 If we could somehow get Drouin and draft Matthews, the future would look unreal. Drouin - Matthews - Virtanen Shinkaurk - McCann - Boeser Gaunce - Horvat - Cassels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaner Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, Mr.Plow said: If we could somehow get Drouin and draft Matthews, the future would look unreal. Drouin - Matthews - Virtanen Shinkaurk - McCann - Boeser Gaunce - Horvat - Cassels I'm sure we would have to give up on of those players to get Drouin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Getting Drouin would be amazing, and then getting a high draft pick in 2016 would be icing on the cake for a rebuild of this franchise. I think it'll have to be one of our youths going the other way, though, for sure. Horvat, Virtanen, McCann at least for starters. But Tampa is not in the position of strength dealing with Drouin, so who knows? Maybe Benning forces their hand? The longer they hold onto Drouin, the lower his stock drops. It's in the best interest of the Lightning to deal with him quick. Remember the Luongo fiasco here in Vancity? Gillis held on to Lu way too long, and at the end, didn't get a very good deal for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 7 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: Getting Drouin would be amazing, and then getting a high draft pick in 2016 would be icing on the cake for a rebuild of this franchise. I think it'll have to be one of our youths going the other way, though, for sure. Horvat, Virtanen, McCann at least for starters. But Tampa is not in the position of strength dealing with Drouin, so who knows? Maybe Benning forces their hand? The longer they hold onto Drouin, the lower his stock drops. It's in the best interest of the Lightning to deal with him quick. Remember the Luongo fiasco here in Vancity? Gillis held on to Lu way too long, and at the end, didn't get a very good deal for him. Drouin is 20 years old and doesn't have a NTC or a bad contract, He's also not a starting goalie with only a limited number of teams that need that position filled. He's going to fetch a solid return whether they trade him today or in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Just now, ForsbergTheGreat said: Drouin is 20 years old and doesn't have a NTC or a bad contract, He's also not a starting goalie with only a limited number of teams that need that position filled. He's going to fetch a solid return whether they trade him today or in the summer. IF they trade him this season, or off-season. Drouin may very well still be in Tampa come the 2016-2017 season. I'd love for him to be a Canuck, but I'm not sure what we would have to give up realistically, to get him here to Van. It may be too much, and if we're rebuilding, I'm loathe to give up any draft picks, because they will simply be higher picks, and that's bad for us if we let those go. If they want Edler, I'd be willing to part with him. But that only means we deplete our d-core even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davathor Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 No way Virtanen is being traded for Drouin, he can have all of the skill in the world but we need Virt for his physical beastiness. saw this on Twitter probably not true though lol get the popcorn out boys: "A few sources reporting VAN may have inside track for Drouin IF they take Carle and willing to part with a young player." if it takes a contract plus a high end second tier type of youth then that seems good to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyIe Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 2 hours ago, N4ZZY said: Getting Drouin would be amazing, and then getting a high draft pick in 2016 would be icing on the cake for a rebuild of this franchise. I think it'll have to be one of our youths going the other way, though, for sure. Horvat, Virtanen, McCann at least for starters. But Tampa is not in the position of strength dealing with Drouin, so who knows? Maybe Benning forces their hand? The longer they hold onto Drouin, the lower his stock drops. It's in the best interest of the Lightning to deal with him quick. Remember the Luongo fiasco here in Vancity? Gillis held on to Lu way too long, and at the end, didn't get a very good deal for him. Agreed. But Benning's has never been able to force another GM's hand. Unless you consider throwing in a draft pick to be a use of force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 9 minutes ago, RyIe said: Agreed. But Benning's has never been able to force another GM's hand. Unless you consider throwing in a draft pick to be a use of force. Hah. that's true. But I want to see what Benning can do. I am certain that Yzerman isn't going to let Drouin just go for nothing. So if the Canucks want him, they'll have to offer something of significance for Yzerman to bite. I'd hate to lose Shinkurak. Seems like everyone wants to get rid of the guy. And Gaunce, is going to be a very good player for the Canucks, especially with his versatility. If we could get Drouin without depleting our prospects, or draft picks, that'd be gold! But those kinds of trades don't happen too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 41 minutes ago, goblix said: No way Virtanen is being traded for Drouin, he can have all of the skill in the world but we need Virt for his physical beastiness. saw this on Twitter probably not true though lol get the popcorn out boys: "A few sources reporting VAN may have inside track for Drouin IF they take Carle and willing to part with a young player." if it takes a contract plus a high end second tier type of youth then that seems good to me HAH. which young player? Shinkaruk? Gaunce? McCann? Horvat? Do we give up our first round pick in this year's draft for Drouin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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