missioncanucksfan Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 1 hour ago, cuporbust said: Sam Bennett is in his living room fist pumping 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Toews said: I think fans make too much out of the combine. Genetics plays a big factor, some mature earlier than others. The combine is just one snapshot of a prospect's physical maturity. Others have been playing their whole lives with a massive size disadvantage. They have learnt to handle it by being faster and more agile. 34 minutes ago, Sedintwinpowersactivate said: I think you are both right about Casey. Genetically he is not physically mature, but his poor results shows a lack of preparation and dedication. I am not sure how to take the Mittlestadt upper body strength results. Zero pull-up is pretty pathetic. Even on a bad I day I could do a few when I was 18 or any time since then, as could most guys involved in sports in any way. His upper body looks weak -- he looks like the kind of guy who get brushed aside by most NHL players. That said, the fact that he done well despite not much upper body strength says positive things about his general ability (as with Sam Bennett.) And upper body strength is not that hard to develop. As @Toews says, it could be partly a matter of just maturing late. If he is already a good player, he could be expected to improve a lot as he matures. The opposite case is Jordan Schroeder. Although fairly short, he was a protoypical gym rat and was in great shape for the combine, where he did very well. But he was already close to maxing out his potential and he never improved much on or off the ice. Mittledstadt might have a lot of room to improve from his already high level of play. I hope the Canucks are checking out the family history of the top prospects to get a sense of which guys are close to their physical ceiling and which guys probably have a lot of room to improve. Also, as @Sedintwinpowersactivate says, it is a bad sign that Mittledstadt did not have the dedication to be better prepared for the combine. . All things considered, I guess I would drop him down my personal draft board and would definitely not take him at #5 overall. But he might still turn out to be one of the top two or three players from this year's draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10pavelbure96 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Sounds like another Sam Bennett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stelar Posted June 4, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2017 Patrick Kane did one bench press in his combine. Pretty good player with 2 cups and a league scoring title. Not saying Middelstat is Kane but for the most part these tests mean F all for what a player will be. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeBrew Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Wolfgang Durst said: It's all about winning. The swedes won it against the Canadians. Don't care about a player being hit into the boards. And I'm sure Pettersson's one assist in six games had a huge influence... he was a non-factor in that tournament and is known not to be able to handle the smaller rink size and gritty play the comes with it. EDIT: I should also add that Canada finished second in that tournament and Sweden failed to place. Edited June 4, 2017 by HomeBrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, HomeBrew said: And I'm sure Pettersson's one assist in six games had a huge influence... he was a non-factor in that tournament and is known not to be able to handle the smaller rink size and gritty play the comes with it. He hasnt had time to learn how. One tournament doesnt mean he is incapable. It takes more then a hand full of games to adjust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 15 minutes ago, 10pavelbure96 said: Sounds like another Sam Bennett Bennett had a good rookie year , but last season wasn't so hot. 26 points and a minus 16. Just sayin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeBrew Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, cuporbust said: He hasnt had time to learn how. One tournament doesnt mean he is incapable. It takes more then a hand full of games to adjust. Well that is the question for him isn't it. He is a boom or bust prospect because of this and will either gain enough strength and stability on his skates to succeed in the NHL or he will be regulated to the SHL. His brother looks like is set to play in the AHL next year which I think will give a good indication of how Elias himself will be able to translate as well - given that they have very similar physical attributes. In the end, some believe he will be a boom prospect and some believe he will bust - I am on the bust side of that equation. With that said, if we happen to select him this year, I will hope for the best. Edited June 4, 2017 by HomeBrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 I see a lot of people bringing up Bennett that are forgetting that the reason Bennett couldn't do a pull up is he was injured. He had a nagging shoulder injury that required him to have surgery and miss 90% of his 18 year old season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Toe Drag Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 http://chl.ca/article/chl-prospects-shine-at-nhl-scouting-combine Results of the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeBrew Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Casey Mittelstadt is known to of been a "pudgy" kid growing up and it is something that he still has to work on for the future as he admits in this combine interview. For me, the room he still has to improve in his fitness indicates how much better he could potentially be when he finally reaches peak physical form - even then, pudgy guys like Kessel still seem to get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GODSRAGE Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 4 hours ago, Wolfgang Durst said: What makes you believe that it could be Necas? Necas is ranked in the majority of draft rankings outside the Top 10. Picking him at #5 doesn't make sense. Trading down to let's say #10 or later would probably be sufficient to land him. It also wouldn't make sense for Petersson or Rasmussen to be taken that earlier either, but I think whatever JB does it will be BPA and fill that C need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar baby watermelon Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 so middlestadt falls downa few spots, who rises in his place, Glass? Petterson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podz92 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, HomeBrew said: Casey Mittelstadt is known to of been a "pudgy" kid growing up and it is something that he still has to work on for the future as he admits in this combine interview. For me, the room he still has to improve in his fitness indicates how much better he could potentially be when he finally reaches peak physical form - even then, pudgy guys like Kessel still seem to get it done. I believe that the year (or two) that he will spend at The University of Minnesota will help with his fitness levels. The NCAA teams all have excellent training facilities and the shorter schedule lends itself to much more off ice training than the CHL leagues. Could be a big plus for Mittlestadt and a guy like Makar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Felt bad for Miro as he struggled with his english, but good for him for doing his best and not defaulting to bringing a translator everywhere. Makar is a huge flames fan, not a big oilers fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Vilardi plans on working on his skating again in the off season in Minnesota. Talks about his Italian heritage (FA would love that) Necas learned a lot playing under Erat Can't find anything on Glass, Liljegren, it's sad that TO and oilers have better draft coverage than Canucks despite Canucks being in the top 5 this year. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHockeyNerds Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Sugar baby watermelon said: so middlestadt falls downa few spots, who rises in his place, Glass? Petterson? Who said he's going to fall? Edited June 4, 2017 by TheHockeyNerds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 39 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Vilardi plans on working on his skating again in the off season in Minnesota. Talks about his Italian heritage (FA would love that) Necas learned a lot playing under Erat Can't find anything on Glass, Liljegren, it's sad that TO and oilers have better draft coverage than Canucks despite Canucks being in the top 5 this year. Necas. European skill, North American heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Not sure if posted, but top 10 in each combine result: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/2017-nhl-combine-results-top-10-drill/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar baby watermelon Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 27 minutes ago, TheHockeyNerds said: Who said he's going to fall? nobody I am just under the assumption he may drop a couple of spots, I could care less that he didn't do the pullup or only 1 bench press, I know the kid has game for days, I'd be more than happy if we take him 5th if he is available 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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