ForsbergTheGreat Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 23 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Why would they want or need Strome? They have McDavid, Draisatl, RNH, Desharnais and a few more. All are better centers thus far than Ryan Strome has shown himself to be. DeHaan or Hamonic are really the only ones that make sense. Barzal is all but untouchable and Strome is redundant unless they're moving Desharnais or RNH And there's the update, makes not much sense unless RH or Desharnais are on their way out. Desharnais is a UFA and wont be signed Strome would allow them to keep Leon on left wing to play with conner. Strome also plays RW, he did that in his only good season in the NHL when he played RW with Tavares. Overall it's good to have a bunch of depth in the middle. If Strome pans out at center it will allow them to move on from RNH.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 minute ago, mll said: Desharnais is UFA and won't be brought back. Chiarelli said they are not looking for Ds even with the Sekera injury. He is counting on internal growth of Nurse and Benning and wants to back bring Russel. So not surprising that they did not target a D. McLellan explained that for him Draisaitl is a forward - they don't worry about position because he is equally good at C or on the wing. They like RNH a lot and thinks he should have a more offensive role - could Strome help that? For the right price I can see Desharnais back for the Oilers, he was surprisingly solid in the playoffs for them. Chia Pet will always look for D or a two way player, it's his MO and what made him a successful GM. If there's a D out there he'll find a way to make it work. Hamonic did make the most sense in my opinion until they announced it was Strome. Strome could capably help RNH and if they DO keep Desharnais McDavid/RNH/Strome/Desharnais look better than Letestu on that 4th line Hard to say with Chia Pet really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhorvat Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Ryan nugget hopkins is a bust....he will become the next sam gagner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: we will give them Loui Eriksson for Nuge! That's actually a fair trade. The Oilers might like that, because Loui would help their team in many ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Warhippy said: Let's ask the honest question here to you and the rest who responded to me Do ANY of you seriously still see Tavares as an Islander after this season. Anyone at all, seriously? I don't. That would leave Lee and Nelson as your defacto 1st and 2nd line centers. Still think that deth is that good? I'd put it on a par with vancouver right now but a shade more developed and with a Barzal in the pool I honestly expect him to stay. You cant count chicken before they hatch. And bringing in Eberle for Tavares is most likley an effort to ensure they do resign him. If the two of them have a dynamite year.. well why would he leave? I am sure Tavares likes living in New York - he is also the face of the franchise and their Captain. I expect this to be similar to Stamkos. You cant say a teams C depth is woeful before it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losing With Pride Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Was definitely expecting Hamonic going the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 23 minutes ago, Warhippy said: I don't know man, the Isles center depth is pretty woeful to begin with and moving a center for a winger doesn't do them many favours, neither does adding $6 million in cap space. I think the biggest take away from this is The Isles are the WORST managed franchise in the NHL bar none. The Oilers may have been the worst franchise statistically over a decade but for almost 20 years the Isles have been absolutely horrifically run This i completely agree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Massive win for NYI other than the cap exchange. Eberle had a down year and Strome has a limited ceiling. This is about making sure they (Edmonton) can afford their two massive contracts ala Chicago's pair that will be soon signed. This is not an upgrade on the ice at all for them. For NYI, this helps get Tavares' attention - JT feeding Eberle will be something that should really be interesting to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Just now, Losing With Pride said: Was definitely expecting Hamonic going the other way. Not for Eberle. Top 4, younger, tough Dmen cost. Hamonic might cost Pool Party + ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, Warhippy said: I don't think I am At 27 years old, I see him at his peak as a 65 point guy for a season or two. With the right linemates. But it's the isles we're talking about here. They won't let that happen He just scored 34 goals, tied for 10th in the league with Patrick Kane and David Pastrnak. You compared him to Brandon Sutter, whose career high was 21. And on what planet is "65 point guy" not a top-6-worthy player? 65 points this past season was what Eric Staal got in Minnesota - good for 29th overall in league scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbdoubleu Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Strome also can play the wing so it does give them some options when moving away from Drai and McDavid on the same line. Has some size and is considered more of a two-way player than Eberle, and for the Islanders they have Beauvillier and Ho-Sang, etc., that can fill Strome's shoes and Eberle is a proven goal-scorer when he is given top line minutes. Pretty classic hockey trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, coryberg said: Besides the whole NMC thing that actually makes sense. 7 minutes ago, Alflives said: That's actually a fair trade. The Oilers might like that, because Loui would help their team in many ways. Part of me was joking and also half serious, my lowkey way of testing it out before i put it into proposals jk Chiarelli was the one that brought Loui to Boston, Loui has history with Lucic, not sure Loui wants to move though, nor do I think Benning will do it because he has too much pride and say he screwed up the contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: He scored 41 points in 44 playoff games for the IceDogs a few years back. Maybe they want to rekindle that effort for the post season. (8 points in 15 playoff games with the Isle) I was talking about Eberle. He will improve their scoring in the regular season and disappear in the POs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, higgyfan said: I think he would take some of the pressure off Bo while we're waiting for the 1C prospect to develop. Trade him in 3years and pickup a player/prospect in return. You got me thinking...Maybe if RNH was playing with a really tough couple of wingers? Virtanen could be one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 If they do: Draisaitl-McDavid-Lucic Maroon-RNH-Strome That second line really isnt going to be fast. So I would expect: Draisaitl-McDavid-Lucic Caggiulla-RNH-Strome Maroon-Letetsu-Kassian I guess? They could shuffle the wingers quite a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: This i completely agree with. I just dont think this trade cements that statement that they are the worst managed tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: Not for Eberle. Top 4, younger, tough Dmen cost. Hamonic might cost Pool Party + ? If that's what it costs to get Hamonic, count me in for the Pool Party+ for Tanev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, Warhippy said: For the right price I can see Desharnais back for the Oilers, he was surprisingly solid in the playoffs for them. Chia Pet will always look for D or a two way player, it's his MO and what made him a successful GM. If there's a D out there he'll find a way to make it work. Hamonic did make the most sense in my opinion until they announced it was Strome. Strome could capably help RNH and if they DO keep Desharnais McDavid/RNH/Strome/Desharnais look better than Letestu on that 4th line Hard to say with Chia Pet really Desharnais is apparently looking at his options in Europe. He was specifically asked about adding a D with the Sekera injury (he will likely not be available for the start of the season) and he answered that he was leaning against it. He liked how Nurse and Benning stepped up and wants to give them an increased role. He said he wants to bring back Russel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, R3aL said: I honestly expect him to stay. You cant count chicken before they hatch. And bringing in Eberle for Tavares is most likley an effort to ensure they do resign him. If the two of them have a dynamite year.. well why would he leave? I am sure Tavares likes living in New York - he is also the face of the franchise and their Captain. I expect this to be similar to Stamkos. You cant say a teams C depth is woeful before it is. Except it is. Stack up their division. Isles aren't in the top half at the moment and the only reason they're not in the bottom IS Tavares. Tavares either gets $9+ million or he's most likely gone (I think he's gone no matter what) Leaving Lee and Nelson and Bailey and Barzal in the background This is my opinion only and you can argue that all you want. It's not going to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelownaCanucksFan Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 22 minutes ago, Diamonds said: I really don't understand this trade from Edmonton's perspective. In Eberle's worst season he still put up a higher point per game than Strome's best season. Does Edmonton need cap space that badly? Me neither especially with them needing defense, doesn't make sense at all. Those mcdavid and draisital contracts are going to be huge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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