ForsbergTheGreat Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, aGENT said: I'd certainly ponder Liljegrin and their 18 1st. But we'd need to have a plan on how to replace EG's contributions and it would make moving on from Edler either this or next year, harder. I’d settle for a just their first and maybe a b or c prospect. Then I’d move Edler (retained) + to Tampa for coburn + Foote. Resign hammer or maybe pizza in the summer for short term help till Juolevi makes the jump. Win the lotto, draft dahlin. Dahlin tanman sbisa coburn Hutton Stetcher Holm/mceneny/ Juolevi/ Foote then we just gotta sign karlsson in 2018. ...Winning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 hours ago, aGENT said: I'd certainly ponder Liljegrin and their 18 1st. But we'd need to have a plan on how to replace EG's contributions and it would make moving on from Edler either this or next year, harder. Yes because I'm sure the leafs would trade two 1sts for Gubranson. I also hope we can trade Labate, Markstrom and a 5th for Tarasenko. 6 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: Meet guntrix. A poster who's mission in life is to ensure the Canucks don't re-sign this player because he's supposedly a horrible defenseman, who various teams are showing interest in should he go to free agency. Funny how that happens... Upon a closer look, it appears that this theory is based mostly on analytics, which doesn't encompass all factors necessary when determining a player's worth. guntrix has spread his message to the airwaves at 1040 during the call-in portion of the post-game show And is hopeful that one day, the Canucks only employ players who have acceptable Corsi/Fenwick - TOI + ATOI x PDO. guntrix seems convinced, along with Thomas Drance, JD Burke, and Jason Botchford, that this is how you build a real contender. Yikes. I truly am sorry if I ruffled some jimmies there. 5 hours ago, oldnews said: So, Dorsett was worth his contract - you simply perceived it as unconventional. Sbisa is worth his contract, but you consider that 'beside the point' because you didn't perceive his value at the time. In other words, guntrix's protests over both have proven to be premature and falied whinging that has been flushed out in reality. Benning vindicated - guntrix shutout. And we're hindsighting Eriksson - on 65 games last season - vs looking at his career (small vs large sample, ironically) - and in denial that his current small sample production is actually worth his contract / consistent with his career - in other words he has returned to the mean that Benning assessed him on - he's on pace for 60 pts/82 this year. Jury has come back to reverse the conviction on Eriksson, and is still out. Lol, so passing judgment over Eriksson's season and a half is "hindsighting" but passing judgment over Sbisa's 20 games isn't. You truly have to see it to believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 On 12/3/2017 at 3:56 AM, guntrix said: Tell me, how long did you wait for the opportunity to use that picture? Pretty easy to find pictures like that as they tend to be rather true and so many people have a false sense of being realistic. Neither complaining about things or being positive about things means one is realistic. Being realistic is weighing the options and not necessarily even having an opinion really. The amount of complaining I've seen you and others do makes you about as "realistic" as the people who senselessly praise anything and everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, guntrix said: but passing judgment over Sbisa's 20 games isn't. derp. I judge and judged Sbisa on three years (20 games is your goldfish standard) - and the fact that despite your whinging, an actual NHL franchise chose to select him - but clearly Vegas is dumb and guntrix is a small sample prophet lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, guntrix said: Yes because I'm sure the leafs would trade two 1sts for Gubranson. I also hope we can trade Labate, Markstrom and a 5th for Tarasenko. Leafs management has already done all sorts of questionable things. Never know I hope so to, that'd be swell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, oldnews said: derp. I judge and judged Sbisa on three years (20 games is your goldfish standard) - and the fact that despite your whinging, an actual NHL franchise chose to select him - but clearly Vegas is dumb and guntrix is a small sample prophet lol. Not sure why you keep blatantly ignoring the fact that Vegas had little to choose from. It was basically between 36 year old miller, Gaunce (who had only scored one NHL goal), and Sbisa. But yeah, keep derping your way to your conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, guntrix said: Vegas had little to choose from. Derp. They had every #4 D in the NHL to choose from. Tough to swallow, eh Kermit. John Merrill Brayden McNabb Shea Theodore Colin Miller Marc Methot Nate Schmidt David Schlemko Derek Engelland Griffin Reinhart Alexei Emelin Clayton Stoner Trevor VanReimsdyk Defensive Pairings Luca Sbisa Nate Schmidt Shea Theodore Deryk Engelland Colin Miller Brayden McNabb But keep chirping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, oldnews said: Derp. They had every #4 D in the NHL to choose from. Tough to swallow, eh Kermit. John Merrill Brayden McNabb Shea Theodore Colin Miller Marc Methot Nate Schmidt David Schlemko Derek Engelland Griffin Reinhart Alexei Emelin Clayton Stoner Trevor VanReimsdyk Defensive Pairings Luca Sbisa Nate Schmidt Shea Theodore Deryk Engelland Colin Miller Brayden McNabb But keep chirping. You misinterpreted my post. Vegas had to choose at least one Canuck by rule. Those were the main three guys from the Canucks available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 15 minutes ago, guntrix said: Not sure why you keep blatantly ignoring the fact that Vegas had little to choose from. It was basically between 36 year old miller, Gaunce (who had only scored one NHL goal), and Sbisa. But yeah, keep derping your way to your conclusions. isn't Sbisa having a really solid year for Vegas? I think by now the anti-Sbisa crowd would have noticed he's actually a solid #5 D Vegas had some decent choices, Miller would have been good for them too if Fleury had gone in a trade somewhere else. Biega would have been an OK choice for them as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 45 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: isn't Sbisa having a really solid year for Vegas? I think by now the anti-Sbisa crowd would have noticed he's actually a solid #5 D And wearing an "A". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 4 hours ago, coryberg said: In 2013 when Clutterbucks deal was signed he was coming off of a projected 20 point season, dorsett was on pace for 31 points that year (lockout shortened season). In 2015 when Dorsetts deal was signed he was coming off a 25 point season, Clutterbuck had 16 points. Yeah no comparison at all. Dorsett has never scored 31 points but good job manipulating the stats. What about the following year when he had 8 points in 51 games. Why don't you work your magic witht those nunbers while you're at it? You don't need to juggle around the numbers to see that Cal Clutterbuck has produced much more than Dorsett and on a consistent basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, VIC_CITY said: Dorsett has never scored 31 points who cares? that's one aspect of value and not that far off 25. You're making too much of 6 pts among players that aren't defined by their production, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nancouver Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I hope jb overpays guddy for long term just to see the whining from kermit and friends on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 On 12/3/2017 at 3:14 AM, oldnews said: Did a little birdie tell you this or do you have a source? I have no source but my heart to back it up. It's Gudbranson for Him's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, VIC_CITY said: What about the following year when he had 8 points in 51 games. Why don't you work your magic witht those nunbers while you're at it? It's not magic it's mathmatics. The 13-14 season dorsett was at .16ppg, that projects to 13 points on a full season. 6 points less than than Clutterbuck. That's comparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 . The whining over Dorsett's contract is almost approaching HFBOARDS level. some guys act like the money is coming out of their pockets. heart and soul guy that is an outstanding example of hard work and perseverance on a team that is cycling in young players who need leadership and mentorship, but all they look at is stats and lament over a few hundred thousand dollars lost (in their minds). How do you put a value on one of the smallest players on the bench challenging anybody that takes a run at a Canuck, or a guy that will pick on the biggest player on the other bench to gt his lethargic bench going..buddy practically put himself in a wheel chair going through the wall for the team, but all they see is a few points and whine about the money. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Darius71 said: I know. The whining over Dorsett's contract is almost approaching HFBOARDS level. some guys act like the money is coming out of their pockets. heart and soul guy that is an outstanding example of hard work and perseverance on a team that is cycling young players who need leadership and mentorship, but all they look at is stats and lament over a few hundred thousand dollars lost (in their minds). How do you value when someone takes a run at a Canuck, and one of the smallest guys on the bench challenges the offender on the next shift...buddy practically put himself in a wheel chair going through the wall for the team, but all they see is a few points and whine about the money. LOL. We really need Guddy, and to sign Archibald. For next season, it would be awesome to have Tryamkin back too. Then either Guddy, or Tryamkin could be on the ice for much of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Alflives said: We really need Guddy, and to sign Archibald. For next season, it would be awesome to have Tryamkin back too. Then either Guddy, or Tryamkin could be on the ice for much of the game. It would be a huge boost if Tryamkin comes back Alf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 4 hours ago, guntrix said: Yikes. I truly am sorry if I ruffled some jimmies there. Sorry for ruffling jimmies? Is that something you do accidentally or do you seek out the jimmies for some ruffling? And after the jimmies are ruffled does something happen or do you get an egg? 4 hours ago, guntrix said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 22 minutes ago, Alflives said: We really need Guddy, and to sign Archibald. For next season, it would be awesome to have Tryamkin back too. Then either Guddy, or Tryamkin could be on the ice for much of the game. Trammer is 7-14-21 +18 in 36 games this year. Fat chance he comes back though. Unless Yekaterinburg goes bankrupt...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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