VIC_CITY Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, combover said: Not many top college ufas will choose a bottom feeder with their first choice. Since benning took over just how many top ufa college players have signed with Vancouver, my count is one stetcher im not counting the farm hands that get passed over as call ups in favour of Chaput and megna. Nucks should have interest in any one that’ll listen but I can’t see any player or their agents saying vancouver should be the first choice.that doesn’t even get into who is under contract next year on d and the favorite sales pitch “we will make room” has been used to many times nobody’s buying it anymore. Edmonton has had their fair share of college UFA signings. They've been a bottom feeder and a dump of a town forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkpoet Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, combover said: Not many top college ufas will choose a bottom feeder with their first choice. Since benning took over just how many top ufa college players have signed with Vancouver, my count is one stetcher im not counting the farm hands that get passed over as call ups in favour of Chaput and megna. Nucks should have interest in any one that’ll listen but I can’t see any player or their agents saying vancouver should be the first choice.that doesn’t even get into who is under contract next year on d and the favorite sales pitch “we will make room” has been used to many times nobody’s buying it anymore. I would bring up Colorado in that conversation. They were dead last in 2017 with 48 points. This year they have 55 points already and there's almost half a season left. Not much has changed except McKinnn has emerged as a legit star, and Ratenen has put up 1st line numbers in his first year. Adding Alex Kerfoot (NCAA FA) didn't hurt either as he's got 30 pts in 42 games (we were in on that deal too) Boom, from last place to the playoffs in a year. You could argue that with a few crude deals at the deadline and/or 1 or 2 of our incoming prospects making similar impact - we could end up in the same sitch next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: BROGAN RAFFERTY BIRTHYEAR 1995-05-28 BIRTHPLACE Dundee, IL, USA AGE 22 NATION USA POSITION D SHOOTS R HEIGHT 188 cm / 6'2" WEIGHT 87 kg / 192 lbs MAX VERONNEAU BIRTHYEAR 1995-12-12 BIRTHPLACE Ottawa, ON, CAN AGE 22 NATION Canada POSITION RW SHOOTS R HEIGHT 183 cm / 6'0" WEIGHT 82 kg / 181 lbs so if both are un-drafted can we sign them whenever their seasons end or do we have to wait until August like the others? Not clear on the NCAA rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 26 minutes ago, VIC_CITY said: Edmonton has had their fair share of college UFA signings. They've been a bottom feeder and a dump of a town forever. Can’t disagreee with dump town , but ufas saw they had mcmuffin and they started winning. 25 minutes ago, darkpoet said: I would bring up Colorado in that conversation. They were dead last in 2017 with 48 points. This year they have 55 points already and there's almost half a season left. Not much has changed except McKinnn has emerged as a legit star, and Ratenen has put up 1st line numbers in his first year. Adding Alex Kerfoot (NCAA FA) didn't hurt either as he's got 30 pts in 42 games (we were in on that deal too) Boom, from last place to the playoffs in a year. You could argue that with a few crude deals at the deadline and/or 1 or 2 of our incoming prospects making similar impact - we could end up in the same sitch next year. Hey like I said if they’ll listen Nucks should be calling and yeah sometimes the planets align and for whatever reason personal or professional a good ncaa player chooses a team at or near the bottom, Boeser night pay more dividends than just being great on the ice he might be a player that will bring others in. But I just don’t see the state of this club as attractive, talk of the sedins resigning, the d core all vets signed through next season. Then you have gagme louie holding spots. So where’s the opportunity again and to play with who aside from Horvat and boeser. And That could all change in the next three weeks and I sure hope it does. I do Hope we land one of the top guys so we can move on but ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 26 minutes ago, combover said: Can’t disagreee with dump town , but ufas saw they had mcmuffin and they started winning. Hey like I said if they’ll listen Nucks should be calling and yeah sometimes the planets align and for whatever reason personal or professional a good ncaa player chooses a team at or near the bottom, Boeser night pay more dividends than just being great on the ice he might be a player that will bring others in. But I just don’t see the state of this club as attractive, talk of the sedins resigning, the d core all vets signed through next season. Then you have gagme louie holding spots. So where’s the opportunity again and to play with who aside from Horvat and boeser. And That could all change in the next three weeks and I sure hope it does. I do Hope we land one of the top guys so we can move on but ....... Unproductive veteran players being graced spots won't really entice young guys looking to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew.Doughty Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Any prospect Benning signs/drafts have an 80% chance of being an NHL player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, combover said: Not many top college ufas will choose a bottom feeder with their first choice. Since benning took over just how many top ufa college players have signed with Vancouver, my count is one stetcher im not counting the farm hands that get passed over as call ups in favour of Chaput and megna. Nucks should have interest in any one that’ll listen but I can’t see any player or their agents saying vancouver should be the first choice.that doesn’t even get into who is under contract next year on d and the favorite sales pitch “we will make room” has been used to many times nobody’s buying it anymore. Most bottom feeding teams will typically have more ice time available. The Canucks maybe not so much but ice time is the most desirable factor for a college FA over a winning team I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 53 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Unproductive veteran players being graced spots won't really entice young guys looking to play. Exactly. I do believe it scares them back to Russia...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, combover said: Exactly. I do believe it scares them back to Russia...... Burmistrov was a coaster. He didn't earn the spot at all. Tryamkin's exit was the product of a coach that didn't know how to properly hand out ice time. Oh, and a coach that liked to call out players to the media. His comments about Tryamkin not neutralizing Marchand were so stupid, it was embarrassing to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Van-city a sexy magnet?!..stay tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Burmistrov was a coaster. He didn't earn the spot at all. Tryamkin's exit was the product of a coach that didn't know how to properly hand out ice time. Oh, and a coach that liked to call out players to the media. His comments about Tryamkin not neutralizing Marchand were so stupid, it was embarrassing to read. Total agree, coach played vets that were ineffective game in and game out over up and comer that was more effective in his limited role. Preach earn it then gift it. Brumstrov was a Non factor. Agents and players look at all this stuff when picking whats true and what gives them the best chance. holm is another one signed as a ufa had other suitors had to be a selling point that we had an opportunity here. That was in May by the end of the summer the opportunity was already gone.signing Mdz wierdcoat and a trade for pouliot made sure of it. Doesn’t exaclty spread confindence and trust to potential ufas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 A lot of opportunity to make the team for college players. Should be a huge incentive to sign with us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 These NCAA guys are effectively free 2nd or 3rd round picks. Not a huge chance they turn out to be difference makers, but sometimes you get surprised. A reasonable number turn out to be NHL calibre players for the bottom end of your roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NexusRift Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 College players are pretty much a crap shoot. I got no problem acquiring such, but I gotta believe that we'll get lucky. I mean like Wings lucky with Datsyuk lucky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 4 hours ago, darkpoet said: Looks expensive. What's the cap space? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 56 minutes ago, NexusRift said: College players are pretty much a crap shoot. I got no problem acquiring such, but I gotta believe that we'll get lucky. I mean like Wings lucky with Datsyuk lucky! College players tend to be undersized late bloomers but in recent years they get first rate coaching and LOTS of practice time because they only play on weekends. Fertile ground imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Scouting report on the Bro? Powerplay specialist? Two-way guy? Regardless, I'd be down for mobile, physical right-handed D-men. Maybe we can slot him into the lineup after Guddy goes. Nothing wrong with free money, especially some with a name that would make Don Taylor proud #AllNameTeam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Just to be clear there was 74 players nominated for the hobey baker award. Its not like this guy is even close to winning it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Yes, and yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Brogan's Run! Brogan "Baker Street" Rafferty Mad Max Veronneau Whoa...1970's vibe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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