GoldenAlien Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) @UticaHockeyYou said: Quote So if the AHL is going to be run as a business then developing a couple prospects each season as you defined it cannot be the only objective even if it is the primary objective. There is also a need to put an entertaining and successful product on the ice. Evidence shows that the Comets are not run like a business. I put in numbers because I'm not one to make idle speculations or assumptions. The Canucks do not need to put an entertaining product on ice because ticket revenue is not the reason they own the Comets. The primary purpose of a business is to make money. That is literally the difference between a private business and a nonprofit, or a hobby. This is how the IRS characterize a business (per TurboTax): Quote Practical standard for business classification The general rule is that if you have not turned a profit in at least three of the prior five years, the IRS will categorize your business as a hobby. This may be extended to a profit in two of the prior seven years in the specific case of horse training, breeding or racing. This is, presumably, because these endeavors involve a great amount of risk. Canucks as a corporate turn a profit, but a business that does not make money is by definition, not a business. Now that's the NHL side of things. On the AHL side, I'm sure it's a business for Esche, any local management group in AHL cities, and independent AHL owners. Why would Esche pay Canucks an affiliation fee if there's no potential for financial upside for him? But that's got nothing to do with the Canucks. We're not debating what Esche's responsibility to the Comets is. The Canucks are actively looking for locations that would make the AHL losses bigger. It's not even trying to turn a profit. If I'm a billionaire, and I spend $10 million/ year operating a private art gallery that does $1m in revenue, the IRS is going to eventually classify that as a hobby, since the reason I run that art gallery is because I like galleries and have the money. Doesn't matter if I hire a bunch of employees to manage the place and pay for advertising and salespeople. We're talking about Canucks' obligations to the Comets here. The team did not buy the Comets as a financial investment, it does not run the operation for money. If I'm not mistaken, the ticket managers, corporate marketing employees etc., are Esche's people. I'm not arguing that it's a business for him, and if you have a problem with the quality of those services, you certainly have a right to take it up with him. Edited December 7, 2018 by GoldenAlien 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Hmm wonder who these must be watching. I'm sure how MacEwen has played this season in Utica, he is garnering some attention. Hope we don't trade him off for spare parts, would like to see him given a fair shake with the big club before we make a decision on him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingleThorn Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 AHL site is promoting the Springfield/ Utica game on FaceBook tonight. I assume this is a free feed ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krutovsdonut Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 4 hours ago, Connor comet said: i doubt it is a big deal. Utica has no viable option. more than likely Utica wants 3 years or more which will not happen and the Canucks will want 1-2 seasons with a lot of outs. The question is does the AHL want Seattle and the Canucks to establish teams at the same time, or will they be ok with the Canucks having a team all alone in the North West for a season or two????? There's no doubt Utica's days are numbered..... funny, i had considered the travel benefit of a seattle franchise to vancouver but not the farm team angle. seattle makes two fairly local ahl franchises more viable, and could even lead to calgary and edmonton joining in. would be hard to find locations that do not already have whl teams though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 1 hour ago, krutovsdonut said: funny, i had considered the travel benefit of a seattle franchise to vancouver but not the farm team angle. seattle makes two fairly local ahl franchises more viable, and could even lead to calgary and edmonton joining in. would be hard to find locations that do not already have whl teams though. I highly doubt Van wants to move their farm team out west. They've had plenty of opportunity and have passed and shot it down every time it comes up. They want to kids to train and practice, not travel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenAlien Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Two goals for Dahlen! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Its a chippy game, the Thunderbirds playing like goons and trying to intentionally hurt the Comets players with blindside hits and crosschecking. Trash AHL goons on the T--birds 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, GoldenAlien said: Two goals for Dahlen! I think the first goal is like what .dahlen will do in the NHL. He’s great down low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 1 minute ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Its a chippy game, the Thunderbirds playing like goons and trying to intentionally hurt the Comets players with blindside hits and crosschecking. Trash AHL goons on the T--birds AHL, and even worse in the ECHL, and lesser pro leagues. The markets want WWE mixed in with some hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 That cheapshot-garbage is reason enough to keep Gaudette up in Van. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCanuck Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 You can definitely see the poor centre depth down there. MacEwen, Jasek, Palmu and Dahlens play have really stood out to me this game. Each showing their different ways they contribute. MacEwen deserves an honorary assist for his screen on Grahams goal. Wouldn't go in if he wasn't there. Jasek seems to have good hands and works hard. Palmu is just a little engine...seen some poor decisions in the D zone though. Dahlen is just showing why he'll be a top 6 guy by Pettersson in the future. Very good nose for the net! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 The PA announcer in Utica has called two goals completely wrong. haha whoever, is sending the information to him needs to check the roster list again and get his numbers correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 73 Percent Posted December 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: I don't know. I do know that the comet guys around here will find a way to pin it on the canucks. 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhukini Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 5-2 Comets final, not outshot either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Bobby Farnham being a tool as always takes a late hit on Dylan Blujus with 3 seconds left, and Ian Mcoshen pushes a referee in a middle of the scrum. Thunderbirds are definition of bush league quality throughout their lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) Classy group they have in Springfield lol Edited December 8, 2018 by CRAZY_4_NAZZY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post canuckledraggin Posted December 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 8, 2018 Comets win! Comets win! Dahlen totally visible. 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Its a chippy game, the Thunderbirds playing like goons and trying to intentionally hurt the Comets players with blindside hits and crosschecking. Trash AHL goons on the T--birds For a minute I thought I was watching a re-make of Slapshot. Lol Edited December 8, 2018 by Kootenay Gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckledraggin Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Come on Comets season ticket holders. Canucks fans need to know who in your expert opinions played poorly tonight. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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