lmm Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 6 hours ago, Boudrias said: Schenn has been a Canuck savior this season. His going after Lowry last night tells all you need to know about Luke Schenn. Canucks haven't had his equal for years. Gubranson tried but he wasn't there. Gubby and Schenner are almost identical top 5 picks 7th team failed to score at the rate their draft slot would suggest, however both were 1/2 ppg players in their draft year late bloomers belong on the 3rd pairing but expected to play higher because of draft spot over 220 tough as nails struggled to live up to their hype Gubby is also having a career year 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 11 hours ago, lmm said: Gubby and Schenner are almost identical top 5 picks 7th team failed to score at the rate their draft slot would suggest, however both were 1/2 ppg players in their draft year late bloomers belong on the 3rd pairing but expected to play higher because of draft spot over 220 tough as nails struggled to live up to their hype Gubby is also having a career year Sutter seems to have a good handle on Gubrannson abilities. He has stabilized his play in a major way. Many nights he is up to 20 minutes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Boudrias said: Sutter seems to have a good handle on Gubrannson abilities. He has stabilized his play in a major way. Many nights he is up to 20 minutes. Kind of makes sense Sutter likes that kind of player Willie and Green don't all you really need to know about WIllie D was how he treated Tom Sestito If there was a time for Stan Smyl to speak up, it was then, as things only got worse after that With Green , Schenn couldn't get in the line up until every other option was injured The Sedins never got along with tough players, which is why I question their value as voices in management I think during the latter Sedin era much to much emphasis was placed on the Grouse Grind and not the NHL grind I was not a fan of the OEL trade, but I did think it would look better early in his tenure, and it has the main thing I see OEL bring that most of Old Jim's D-men didn't is the ability to make his partner better Myers has looked good this year because OEL brings stability to the pairing Gudbanson played with Benny The Hutt and was expected to carry that pairing Gudbranson came from Florida, where he was paired with Willie Mitchell and Brian Campbell Now I am not watching Calgary this season, until we play them, So I don't know who Gubber plays with but at 32 Luke Schenn is carrying the 3rd pairing, but not asked to carry Hughes when they play together edit Oh Hey we play Calgary tonight I guess I'll get to see Ol Gubby play Edited January 29, 2022 by lmm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Among defensemen with at least 25 NHL games this year, Schenn is 3rd in hits/60 this year with 14.40. 1st is Simon Benoit at 14.82. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Schenn is the unsung hero of the season. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kloubek Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) On 1/28/2022 at 6:35 PM, lmm said: Gubby and Schenner are almost identical Minus the fact that Guddy makes double (and prior to this year, used to make 4.5 times the amount), never hit as much as Schenn does, and while he's having a better season than usual, consistently kills anything that looks like a team cycle. But yeah - other than that, pretty identical. Edited February 1, 2022 by kloubek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nancouver Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Both gudbranson and schenn are prime examples of players who came along at the wrong time. Put either player in the league during the 90’s or early 2000’s when physicality was still a huge part of the game and they would have been top 4 d for their whole careers. I definitely have a soft spot for the throwback old school style defencemen who stick up for their teammates, love seeing the schenndozer playing so well as of late. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 12/1/2021 at 11:50 PM, Captain Canuck #12 said: This is where someone would usually make a comment about small sample size...but not me though....I'm not like that! But seriously, it looks to me like Schenn may have actually benefitted from being sent down to Tampa to work on his skills for those couple of years!! Schenn has benefited from having a good NHL head coach. I question he’d look nearly as good under Green (though you could say the same about a lot of players on the team). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthycanuck Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, Boudrias said: Schenn is the unsung hero of the season. Yup. Honestly i would not trade Schenn for anything else than a 1st or 2nd round pick. Its over payment yes, but a team would have to blow us away to get Schenn out of our hands, not that 5th- 6th round crap. Schenn for what he's getting paid has pretty much exceeded his pay grade, AND he's under contract for another season. You don't trade Schenn for flexibility, if anything, hes the part of the season for cap flexibility Edited February 2, 2022 by filthycanuck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthycanuck Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 17 hours ago, kloubek said: Minus the fact that Guddy makes double (and prior to this year, used to make 4.5 times the amount), never hit as much as Schenn does, and while he's having a better season than usual, consistently kills anything that looks like a team cycle. But yeah - other than that, pretty identical. Theres an arguement to be made that if you put factor in salary, statistics, availabiltiy, theres a strong case that Gudbranson is probably the worst player to wear a Canuck uniform in the last 20 years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 3 hours ago, filthycanuck said: Theres an arguement to be made that if you put factor in salary, statistics, availabiltiy, theres a strong case that Gudbranson is probably the worst player to wear a Canuck uniform in the last 20 years Oh, he was absolutely awful. The way he played for us, he was a 7th d kinda guy. At his salary was beyond unacceptable. I'm WAY happier with Schenn. On a good team, he too is probably a 7th dman but on ours, he's been one of our most consistent defensemen and nobody can complain about that salary. I know he might have some value moving to a contender, but I'd rather the team play out his 2nd year instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack in the box Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) Edited February 2, 2022 by Gassy Jack 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lmm Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 On 2/1/2022 at 9:52 AM, kloubek said: yeah identical. clipping is fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthycanuck Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 On 2/1/2022 at 3:31 PM, NewbieCanuckFan said: Schenn has benefited from having a good NHL head coach. I question he’d look nearly as good under Green (though you could say the same about a lot of players on the team). Brad Shaw has taken over coaching the Dmen, so its made a difference. He's basically undoing the mess Baumer made. Another reason Schenn is doing good might be just simply chemistry. There is something about the way Schenn plays that just meshes with Hughes. A top end D-man doesn't necessarily need another top end guy to be successful. Brian Leetch's best years were paired with amongst all the other guys, Jeff Beukaboom who is basically a Dana Murzyn, Gerald Diduck in Canuck terms. Im not sure why our dolt of a GM let go of Schenn in the first place considering how well he played here his first go around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putgolzin Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 4 hours ago, filthycanuck said: Im not sure why our dolt of a GM let go of Schenn in the first place considering how well he played here his first go around. If I'm Schenn I'm taking the offer of living in the sunshine and potentially winning cups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Unsung hero for me this season. He's played physical, he's thrown hits but more importantly he hasn't been caught slow-footed, has made some good passes up the ice and of course done all the good things you'd expect from a physical defenceman defensively. Crazy to think we have him on such a cheap contract and he's basically playing in our top-4 alongside our best defenceman in Hughes. The fact that Schenn is arguably our 3rd best defenceman and Tampa's 7th guy speaks volumes of our lack of depth, but then you have to commend Schenn's play this year because he's been brilliant and much better than he was his last stint here. He is essentially playing Hamonic's role and doing a great job of it when no one expected him to. I expect he'll continue the same next season, he's basically a poor-man's Tanev, but we're going to need to replace him soon with some quality and we have no one in the pipelines to do so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJVD Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) Luke is playing the most he has (TOI per game) since his one-season stop in Arizona in 2016-2017. And he's earning it too: Highest hits/60 since that same 2016-2017 season and the most offensive production since his last year in Toronto (2011-2012). He is also boasting an on-ice save % of .935! Which can be read as he's very lucky, or you could say he's making life easy for his goaltender. It's a little of both, but more of the latter imo Edited February 3, 2022 by MattJVD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Schenn is doing great. I wonder if he could get faster with skating coaching? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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