Bobber75 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 It's very simple Lucic for Loui and swap of first round picks! Meaning Canucks pick 8th! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Pretty simple and reasonable. Nice first post! I'd do it as a Canucks fan, especially if JB has targeted a specific guy that is still on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrJockitch Posted June 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2019 Extra year, worse player and NMC screwing with expansion draft. Not worth it to go up two pics. 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alflives Posted June 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2019 22 hours ago, Bobber75 said: It's very simple Lucic for Loui and swap of first round picks! Meaning Canucks pick 8th! That's not nearly enough, from a Canucks POV. Lucic must be on the roster, be protected in the Seattle expansion draft, and has an extra year on his contract. The Oilers, if they are wanting to rid themselves of Milan's contract, will have to add A LOT to any deal. Basically, Lucic's contract is as toxic as one can get. Loui can be sent to the minors, and exposed in the Seattle draft. Plus, Loui can still PK and be defensively responsible five on five, while still contributing offensively. Lucic is not really any more than a knuckle dragger now. The trade would be this: Loui + a 6th. For Lucic + 8 OA. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 26 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: Extra year, worse player and NMC screwing with expansion draft. Not worth it to go up two pics. Plus Lucic wants to be closer to family, so in reality he's only going to waive to come here most likely. And LE will have a much more moveable contract after July 1st, therefore Edmonton could flip him out and rid themselves altogether of the anchor and we will be helping out a divisional rival. Edmonton would take some value off if they are willing to make the deal before July 1st to eat the payout, but even then I would expect more in return. Edmonton gains way to much between LE and Lucic, so it'll take quite a bit to even it up for me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 23 hours ago, Bobber75 said: It's very simple Lucic for Loui and swap of first round picks! Meaning Canucks pick 8th! No I don't like it, to sweet for Edm. Lucic + Poolparty or maybe 2nd round pick for LE. It has to be lopsided for Vancouver to do this deal. Period. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Moving up to 8th is nowhere near worth that. We are going to lose a good young player to expansion and have an unmovable contract for someone that literally does nothing positive. After Eriksson's signing bonus is paid out and his modified NTC kicks in he will be very easy to move. In 2020-21 he will have a salary of 1 million with the cap hit of 6 million and have to submit a 15 team no-trade list. Hardly an anchor by any stretch of the mind. That is an attractive contract even if the player never sets foot on the ice for a cap floor team. @Alflives proposal is way closer and even then I wouldn't give them the 6th rounder myself, but Alf seems like a generous soul. I can't believe how many people don't understand how terrible Looch's contract really is. It's not even in the same stratosphere as Eriksson's. Eriksson's was always bad but had built into it ways to make it a lot more palatable, looch's didn't. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAVA-1 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 How about instead of LE we move Sutter to Edm for Lucic ++ (Poolparty and a pick). Then we can move LE after his bonus is paid out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Higgins Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 For me, i think we would have to be getting their 2nd this year too. Let jb get a better chance at the guy he likes and another 2nd this year. But even then it could be bad unless the new cba gives us some compliance buyouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, JAVA-1 said: How about instead of LE we move Sutter to Edm for Lucic ++ (Poolparty and a pick). Then we can move LE after his bonus is paid out. Sutter for Lucic + 8 OA? Sounds like a fair trade. Then, like you say, move Loui after his bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Tags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamhuis Hip Check Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Fair trade in my view is loui for lucic plus the 8th, i know the oilers wouldnt do that deal but we would be getting screwed if we only moved up 2 spots for taking on lucic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) Help me out here contract guru's. Am I mistaken in my belief that if Lucic waives his NMC to go to Van, he's waived his NMC altogether and therefore wouldn't require protection in the expansion draft? Edited June 10, 2019 by luckylager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure1010 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Only way I’d trade for lucic baertschi or sutter for lucic and 8 oa But this trade is only made after this trade Ottawa 7 round pick for future considerations. Futures are Loui after he gets his bonus on July 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, JAVA-1 said: How about instead of LE we move Sutter to Edm for Lucic ++ (Poolparty and a pick). Then we can move LE after his bonus is paid out. good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, luckylager said: Help me out here contract guru's. Am I mistaken in my belief that if Lucic waives his NMC to go to Van, he's waived his NMC altogether and therefore wouldn't require protection in the expansion draft? For Lucic to accept a trade the team acquiring him would have to sign an addendum (written by Lucic's agent) to the effect that the his waiving is only a one time deal, and the NMC is goes with him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Note: Tags are mandatory only in the Trades, Rumours, Signings forum and in the Proposals and Armchair GM'ing forum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawkdrummer Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 just find a way to get rid Eriksson, send him to the minors if need be. don't need to trade a problem for a bigger problem. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, Alflives said: For Lucic to accept a trade the team acquiring him would have to sign an addendum (written by Lucic's agent) to the effect that the his waiving is only a one time deal, and the NMC is goes with him. Good point Alf. I would think that Lucic would want to finish his career on whatever team he is traded to. Oh...and buying him out is not an options, so...let me review...whoever ends up with him, will have him for the duration of his contract AND have to protect him at the ED and likely lose a more valuable player. Loui's contract is easier to deal with. F#$@ the 8th overall and F#$@ the Oilers. Try to get a 15-20 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 28 minutes ago, Alflives said: For Lucic to accept a trade the team acquiring him would have to sign an addendum (written by Lucic's agent) to the effect that the his waiving is only a one time deal, and the NMC is goes with him. But it could be negotiated to remove/alter the clause when he comes to town? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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