Dr. Crossbar Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Provost said: It wasn’t a bad signing at the time at all. It just didn’t work out for anyone. I get why we did it, and had to do it to get him. Take a step back to see what I mean from the bigger picture. I'd rather not waste time debating the word "mistake". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 To Van: Zaitsev (25% retained, years 3 through 5). Zack Smith Kapanen To Ottawa Erkisson (post bonus) Goldobin Tor 3rd 19 To Toronto Tanev (50% retained). Schaller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted June 22, 2019 Author Share Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, oldnews said: To Van: Zaitsev (25% retained, years 3 through 5). Zack Smith Kapanen To Ottawa Erkisson (post bonus) Goldobin Tor 3rd 19 To Toronto Tanev (50% retained). Schaller We are making a trade for Toronto’s 2019 3rd after Eriksson’s July 1st bonus is paid? That seems amazing as a timeline! I also don’t think you can retain salary only in a specific year. Edited June 22, 2019 by Provost 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amplified0ne Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) Is there a d-man out there with an equally bad contract that we could swap and maybe make better use of? Would you do Eriksson for Alzner, we'd probably have to eat the difference in the cap hit. Is a 6M Alzner better? Alzner Seabrook Shattenkirk Vlasic Seabrook and Vlasic contracts way too long. Edited June 24, 2019 by amplified0ne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babalu Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 3 hours ago, amplified0ne said: Is there a d-man out there with an equally bad contract that we could swap and maybe make better use of? Would you do Eriksson for Alzner, we'd probably have to eat the difference in the cap hit. Is a 6M Alzner better? Alzner Seabrook Shattenkirk Vlasic Seabrook and Vlasic contracts way too long. Would Dallas be an option for LE. His family has apparently moved back there. Could we trade LE for Hanzal and Nichuskin and buy them out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 For those Lucic haters out there, their argument for being better off holding on to Eriksson doesn't even hold water! Just looked up quick stats on both for last 3 seasons: Eriksson had 0.39 point ppg, avg-7 a season, missed tons of games Lucic had 0.43 ppg, avg -8, hardly missed games, younger and much tougher! So ppl are bashing Lucic on his foot speed but not like Eriksson is any faster... we just need to negotiate better to get more out of Edmonton for the extra year of $6M. Sure... a more ideal scenario would be getting Ottawa or Arizona to pick up Eriksson and a 3rd round pick while we retain 25-50% of the salary... but how likely???? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead80 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Don’t think that extra 0.04 ppg with Lucic is worth an extra year of a bad contract. Just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 With Luongo recapture penalty, JB absolutely has to get rid of LE contract and other dead weights (Schaller, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, canucklehead80 said: Don’t think that extra 0.04 ppg with Lucic is worth an extra year of a bad contract. Just my two cents. Fair point!! But we lack size and toughness still as Schaller failed to play that role! Also, Lucic is now wanting to play for us while Eriksson doesn't get along with Green anymore... That's why JB needs to squeeze more out of the Oilers for the extra $6M. Let's say no other takers for Eriksson... you still want him to mope around either here or in Utica?? The owner isn't prepared to buy out his contract.... Edited June 26, 2019 by Virtanen#18 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, canucklehead80 said: Don’t think that extra 0.04 ppg with Lucic is worth an extra year of a bad contract. Just my two cents. how about the extra 256 hits and the imminent threat of face punching if anyone deigns to so much as look at pettersson or hughes the wrong way? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, BPA said: With Luongo recapture penalty, JB absolutely has to get rid of LE contract and other dead weights (Schaller, etc). Yup totally.... time to get creative dealing Sutter and Tanev too. We need to somehow get more competitive while refreshing this roster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maketherightmove Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, tas said: how about the extra 256 hits and the imminent threat of face punching if anyone deigns to so much as look at pettersson or hughes the wrong way? Sure this is preferable to Loui floating around aimlessly in my opinion, but I think the goal should be to just get rid of his toxic contract, not replace it with an equally as bad contract for a player that might bring slightly more to the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Maketherightmove said: Sure this is preferable to Loui floating around aimlessly in my opinion, but I think the goal should be to just get rid of his toxic contract, not replace it with an equally as bad contract for a player that might bring slightly more to the table. if the canucks have another palatable way to offload him without taking money back, my preference would be to still bring in lucic, but with sutter going the other way. the canucks should be able to pry something decent out of them in that trade. tyler benson+? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 23 minutes ago, canucklehead80 said: Don’t think that extra 0.04 ppg with Lucic is worth an extra year of a bad contract. Just my two cents. Lucic also got FAR more offensive opportunity a couple of those years and with McJesus for that added .04 PPG. 12 minutes ago, BPA said: With Luongo recapture penalty, JB absolutely has to get rid of LE contract and other dead weights (Schaller, etc). I wouldn't be so sure that's a done deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Maketherightmove said: Sure this is preferable to Loui floating around aimlessly in my opinion, but I think the goal should be to just get rid of his toxic contract, not replace it with an equally as bad contract for a player that might bring slightly more to the table. Zack Smith works for both clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maketherightmove Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, aGENT said: Zack Smith works for both clubs. Last thing the Canucks need is another bottom 6 FWD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Canucks Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Maketherightmove said: Last thing the Canucks need is another bottom 6 FWD. Who cares? Smith has less cap hit and one less year on his contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maketherightmove Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Just now, The Great Canucks said: Who cares? Smith has less cap hit and one less year on his contract. Sure, but if you're trading Loui for that type of return (if it can be done) you may as well at least try to fill a need. You can get a 5th or 6th dman for that price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Maketherightmove said: Last thing the Canucks need is another bottom 6 FWD. No, the last thing we need is a $6m, 3 more year bottom 6 forward with an attitude problem. I'd sub in a character guy that's at $3.25m for 2 more years instead in a heart beat. Only a $2.25 hit if we waive him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Maketherightmove said: Sure, but if you're trading Loui for that type of return (if it can be done) you may as well at least try to fill a need. You can get a 5th or 6th dman for that price. If Benning actually gets ANYTHING of value back for Eriksson, he's doing well. If he gets back something that actually helps us, he deserves a parade at that point in my opinion. lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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