theo5789 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Noseforthenet said: This was not Edler folding for 2. This was the absolute best of a non ideal situation for him. He wasn't getting expansion protection anywhere, so what happens? He signs a 2 year deal. Plays one year here and then Seattle IF they pick him. Plus if they pick him, they can't trade him anywhere unless he waives. His family doesn't have to move and then after the year away, BOOM, re-signs a new deal with Vancouver. Am I getting confused here? I thought there were 2 more seasons to be played out before expansion. Therefore he's a UFA right before the expansion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMelvin Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, PhillipBlunt said: Edler can't just give his minutes away to another player. What do think they do? Are they sitting in the locker room before the game trading minutes with each other before the game like cards? Green decides how much everyone plays, so if Benning restructures the defense by signing and/or trading for some legitimate top 4 defensemen, then Green will have that much more to work with and the ability to spread out the minutes. Of course not.. but I'm sure if Grampa is a team player and understands the importance of or lack thereof his role.. maybe he can or should give them up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptKirk888 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, Noseforthenet said: This was not Edler folding for 2. This was the absolute best of a non ideal situation for him. He wasn't getting expansion protection anywhere, so what happens? He signs a 2 year deal. Plays one year here and then Seattle IF they pick him. Plus if they pick him, they can't trade him anywhere unless he waives. His family doesn't have to move and then after the year away, BOOM, re-signs a new deal with Vancouver. The expansion draft occurs at the end of his 2 year contract (2021). As a UFA he will be exempt from the exp. draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PhillipBlunt Posted June 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 minute ago, DarthMelvin said: Of course not.. but I'm sure if Grampa is a team player and understands the importance of or lack thereof his role.. maybe he can or should give them up... Grampa...…. Again, it's not a player's choice to "give up" his minutes. The coach makes that decision during a game. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, coryberg said: Salaries go up every year. Most of the players who make similar money signed their contracts years ago or were signed while being a RFA. Not many players sign at respectable rates a week before UFA. Another factor is guaranteed money, players can get hurt and their career is over in a blink of an eye. The ones like Clarkson, Savard and Pronger get paid throughout the deal on LTIR. I have no doubt in my mind that another team would have offered Alex 7x4 on the open market. Therefor Edler left 16 million dollars (28-12) of guaranteed money on the table. Even if he stays relatively healthy throughout these 2 seasons he likely won't be able to command over 5 on his next deal. So let's say his next deal is 4x2 with the Canucks, that is an 8 million dollar hometown discount and huge favor to the Canucks as far as the expansion draft goes. This contract has nothing close to do with market value and I'm sure JP "Slime Ball" Barry shed a tear when he signed it. SPECULATION on your part on a guy who is injury prone and not getting any younger. He will continue to get paid what he is worth AFTER this contract. Your thought process is why salaries are getting out of hand again and will eventually lead to another lock out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMelvin Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said: Grampa...…. Again, it's not a player's choice to "give up" his minutes. The coach makes that decision during a game. What's funny is... What if they trade him hahaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Fabulous work Jim Benning. respect to Edler. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DarthMelvin said: What's funny is... What if they trade him hahaa Edited June 20, 2019 by PhillipBlunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, EdgarM said: SPECULATION on your part on a guy who is injury prone and not getting any younger. He will continue to get paid what he is worth AFTER this contract. Your thought process is why salaries are getting out of hand again and will eventually lead to another lock out. EdgarM be like... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 13 minutes ago, CaptKirk888 said: The expansion draft occurs at the end of his 2 year contract (2021). As a UFA he will be exempt from the exp. draft. It looks like I was mistaken. I thought it was end of this season. This must have been the exact term Eddie wanted then. Not whatever was reported. Whatever it takes to not be selected I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BlastPast Posted June 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2019 Damn, good deal. Some people got robbed of an opportunity to complain incessantly , that must be very aggravating for them. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 So stoked. This guy is the quiet captain of the team, they will probably give to Horvat but this guy is just as much a leader on the team. He's dedicated his career to our city, taken big discounts, sacrificed his body for us. So happy to have him back, leading the charge and giving Hughes a great guy to look up to. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Baggins Posted June 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, DarthMelvin said: Of course not.. but I'm sure if Grampa is a team player and understands the importance of or lack thereof his role.. maybe he can or should give them up... So Green taps him on the shoulder and he should say, "No thanks coach, send Hutty out"........ 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB72 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 57 minutes ago, EdgarM said: Your thought process is why salaries are getting out of hand again and will eventually lead to another lock out. This isn't a thought process, it's reality. There is also something in the CBA called a salary cap. No team can spend over it so no matter how big ufa contracts get it's always the same bottom line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMelvin Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, Baggins said: So Green taps him on the shoulder and he should say, "No thanks coach, send Hutty out"........ If only he could be THAT guy! haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 minute ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: As he should Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, mcchorvirt said: This isn't a thought process, it's reality. There is also something in the CBA called a salary cap. No team can spend over it so no matter how big ufa contracts get it's always the same bottom line. The problem is that players who are probably going to decline in production during the contract being discussed , puts a false value on their true worth. Hence why players get bought out such as Perry. Although Edler is probably worth the money now, if he signed a longer contract, we may have got stuck with an improperly assessed contract and we would have the problem of trying to get rid of him in 3,4 years. Teams fall in the trap of paying too much for a player and hence messing it up for everyone else. Who knows how a player is going to perform in 7-8 years(See Chicago). I think Edler 's contract is great as it allows to the team to continually pay him what he is worth no matter how long his career is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Glad this got done. Cause Gardiner would have been Welcome back Eddie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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