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[Trade] Lightning trade J.T. Miller to Canucks for Marek Mazanec, 2019 3rd-round pick, 2020 conditional 1st-round pick


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12 minutes ago, rekker said:

It's never mentioned by the Leaf Blower media that AM is only on contract for four more years after this one. He will be Arizona bound. That's their window, and it look very tinted. Lol.

They did throw A LOT of chips in on a pair of lottery centers - 22.63 million into Tavares and Matthews - and another 10.89 on Marner - and they seem dead set on retaining all three of them, which puts them in a hard place where the rest of their roster is concerned.

 

Can they now afford to lose players like Barrie, Muzzin and/or Ceci to free agency - having given up Kadri, Brown, 1st, Grundstrom, 3rd, Rosen, in the deals bringing them in?  What can they realistically / comparably replace those 3 with in free agency with their combined 10.75 cap hit?   How do the Marleau buyout, costing a 1st, or the Plekanec (2nd) or Boyle (2nd) rentals look, having wasted them on closed windows - with the kind of top-heavy cap structure and relatively uninspiring (imo) pool of futures?

 

Obviously an intensely unpopular idea in Toronto, but a "retool" move involving one of their principal/core assets may not be the worst idea.

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11 hours ago, The_Rocket said:

Not sure if this was posted back in the previous 200 pages on this thread, but though this would be good for a laugh... 

 

a popular Instagram page with 250,000 followers named NHL.discussion ranked GMJB 29th in the league in their pre-season rankings based mostly on the idea that the miller trade was the worst one he’s ever made. 
 

THE WORST ONE HES EVER MADE!

 

just hilarious to think about how wrong people were about this trade when it happened 

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hfposters voted.....

 

Idiots....

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As awesome as this trade has been, nobody would have predicted this:

 

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Miller just 2 points behind our wonder boy Petey!!   Wow.

 

JT Miller should have costs two first round picks or a very high 1st rouder (which Tampa most likely does not get).  I love hindsight!!

 

:lol:

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On 1/31/2020 at 12:22 PM, Maddogy said:

J.B. is not perfect but he is significantly more competent than that guy who traded a 1st round pick to rent Taylor Hall for half a season. 

Not just a 1st round pick, a bundle of prospects and a conditional 3rd round pick as well. Woof. 

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On 6/27/2019 at 11:43 PM, coryberg said:

Duchene had a very nice contract year, not sure he can repeat those numbers next year. If you look at his 10 season career he has only hit 60+ points 3 times (2010, 2014, and last season).

 

Take last year out of the equation and compare their point totals over the 3 previous seasons...

 

2015-16 Duchene 59 Miller 43

2016-17 Duchene 41 Miller 56

2017-18 Duchene 59 Miller 58

 

Grand total of 159 points for Duchene and 157 for JT. Pretty crazy especially when you consider Duchene was averaging 18:30 toi and Miller was averaging 16:00 over that span.

 

Anything is possible  in hockey but it certainly is not such a stretch to imagine Miller putting up similar totals to Duchesne especially if he gets 18 mins a night with Boeser and Pettersson.

Yep... looks like we were on to something

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Has had the kind of consistent heaviness that just hasn't slowed down as the games tighten and they head into the stretch run.

 

Goal, assist, +2 (in spite of the Eberle goal), couple hits, a block, a takeaway, 71% in the faceoff circle - huge takeaway 3 on 3 that turns into the transition to EP - Hughes gwg.

On the road - against a deep, talented, balanced, well-coached Isles team.

 

It's becoming his 'expected' impact on a game. 

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On 1/29/2020 at 1:06 PM, Gaudette Celly said:

peaches5 = JD Burke confirmed

 

On 1/29/2020 at 7:00 PM, Kanukfanatic said:

AGREED!!

 

There cannot be 2 humans on this Earth with WORKING brains that keep to the same stupid theory lol.

The dude doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

Look at my signature for more "impeachable" offences - term borrowed from @oldnews

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1 hour ago, Kanukfanatic said:

DOH!!  Sometimes strong opinions make one look bad...

 

As of Jan 31, 2020:

 

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I only added Quinn Hughes cuz....well...why not lol.

 

:lol:

 

Yeah, but Duchene has 5 games in hand to score 18 points! :lol:

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This could be the trade of the decade.  Maybe one of the better ones in Canucks history.  If the Canucks finish in first place in their division this year Tampa will get our pick this year which will be in the low 20’s.  The player they get may never play in the NHL, or it may be a player who’s a 3rd or 4th liner.  

 

Obviously we will need to see who that player is and follow their career but at the end of the day I do this trade over again 10 out of 10 times knowing what we know now.  Miller is a bonafide top 6 power forward, one of the better ones in the league.  The way he is playing now he is worth far more than a first round pick.

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8 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:

This could be the trade of the decade.  Maybe one of the better ones in Canucks history.  If the Canucks finish in first place in their division this year Tampa will get our pick this year which will be in the low 20’s.  The player they get may never play in the NHL, or it may be a player who’s a 3rd or 4th liner.  

 

Obviously we will need to see who that player is and follow their career but at the end of the day I do this trade over again 10 out of 10 times knowing what we know now.  Miller is a bonafide top 6 power forward, one of the better ones in the league.  The way he is playing now he is worth far more than a first round pick.

Whoa there, easy boy! This is CDC, every late first is a guaranteed Corey Perry, every 3rd rounder is Brayden Point and every Marek Mazanec is Dominik Hasek. Just feel lucky that there isn't any 9th round picks these days cause every one of those is a Zetterberg :bigblush:

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54 minutes ago, coryberg said:

Whoa there, easy boy! This is CDC, every late first is a guaranteed Corey Perry, every 3rd rounder is Brayden Point and every Marek Mazanec is Dominik Hasek. Just feel lucky that there isn't any 9th round picks these days cause every one of those is a Zetterberg :bigblush:

Fake news. 

Nobody says that, not with any seriousness at least. Certainly the median or consensus on CDC thinks no such thing. 

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said:

Fake news. 

Nobody says that, not with any seriousness at least. Certainly the median or consensus on CDC thinks no such thing. 

 

 

 

Perhaps, but some on here had a stroke when Vanek was traded for Motte and not a 6th round pick.  Some seem to value a small collection of 5th and 6th round picks over organizational depth.

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7 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

Perhaps, but some on here had a stroke when Vanek was traded for Motte and not a 6th round pick.  Some seem to value a small collection of 5th and 6th round picks over organizational depth.

How about Vey for a 2nd? It was bloody murder around here. 6 years and 10 nhl games later for Mckeown... pretty hush hush.

 

Derek Roy for a 2nd at the deadline was one of the biggest outrages ever.... 7 years later that 2nd round pick has never played an nhl game.

 

That 1st we traded for Ballard takes the cake though. 97 games and 17 points of 4th line minutes before heading to the KHL for the past 5 years.

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