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1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said:

Little Johnny was invisible in the playoffs.  That's why they were gone in 5 games. 

Yep it was why they were bounced so fast.  

 

1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said:

Lucic can't play on a top line anymore.  Ferland can.  And so can Neal. 

But Neal wasn't playing that way, He had 3 goals heading into the Christmas break, and that was with good opportunity.  Flames don't really need another player on their top line.  Or even in the top 6 for that matter.  They needed a bottom 6 brute who can intimidate and provide a physical presence in the game.  Bennett wasn't enough.  While Lucic lucic at 5.25 is about a $3 million over payment for that role he does fill a need.  I called this as a high potential trade 4 months ago since if fits both teams needs and provides two struggling players with a new opportunity..

 

Considering both contracts are anchors, it's about as win win as it can get for those situations and the fact that flames save cap in the process (which they need) it's a good move.  

 

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5 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

I think Edmonton actually has 2 legit lines now.  McDavid and Neal and RNH and Draisaitl.  If they can ever get Pool Party to play up to his potential they could be on to something.

Not such a great deal having 2 out of 5 of your top 6 being 'ifs' though.  Not being cheeky, ('cause I really don' know) who is the 6th guy?

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Decent move by Edm, Neal should be able to pot 20g you'd think with PP time and the opportunity to play in the top 6. Would have been nice if Calgary had some interest in LE, Neal might have been a good fit here...before we traded for Miller and signed Ferland of course!

 

Eriksson to NYR for Shattenkirk, use him as a PP specialist...could retain salary on him and get a better return vs retaining on Eriksson

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4 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said:

Decent move by Edm, Neal should be able to pot 20g you'd think with PP time and the opportunity to play in the top 6. Would have been nice if Calgary had some interest in LE, Neal might have been a good fit here...before we traded for Miller and signed Ferland of course!

 

Eriksson to NYR for Shattenkirk, use him as a PP specialist...could retain salary on him and get a better return vs retaining on Eriksson

Why would NYR do that trade? They only save $650,000 

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Soooo Edmonton moves Lucic and retains salary to get Neal? So they got rid of a non producing player at 6 mil a season for another non-producing player at with a $500,000 additional cap hit? You have to think McDavid is going WTF???

 

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25 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

I think Edmonton actually has 2 legit lines now.  McDavid and Neal and RNH and Draisaitl.  If they can ever get Pool Party to play up to his potential they could be on to something.

maybe Calgary has inside info tho, like Neals practice effort or testing numbers are in the toilet. I don't see Neal allowing LD to form his own line away from McD yet. 

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13 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said:

Decent move by Edm, Neal should be able to pot 20g you'd think with PP time and the opportunity to play in the top 6. Would have been nice if Calgary had some interest in LE, Neal might have been a good fit here...before we traded for Miller and signed Ferland of course!

 

Eriksson to NYR for Shattenkirk, use him as a PP specialist...could retain salary on him and get a better return vs retaining on Eriksson

Which of our defensemen do you waive/scratch to make room for a defensive liability?

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7 minutes ago, morrissex95 said:

Why would NYR do that trade? They only save $650,000 

I know nothing about the Rags, but they just paid big for Trouba, I thought Shattenkirk was not used much and they wanted to get rid of him? Maybe we trade them tanev instead and get a sweetener for taking on that 2m extra in the contract, or NYR retain a portion? We can move Schaller and or someone else to clear some cap space

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Just now, King Heffy said:

Which of our defensemen do you waive/scratch to make room for a defensive liability?

Biega, fantenberg. Also we could look at moving Tanev for some picks

 

I take a defensively liable Shattenkirk who could help our PP over a useless soft plug on the 4th line

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3 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said:

Biega, fantenberg. Also we could look at moving Tanev for some picks

 

I take a defensively liable Shattenkirk who could help our PP over a useless soft plug on the 4th line

No defensemen who can't play defense, please.  Especially no to moving Tanev for this pylon.  Shattenkirk is worse than useless, he's an absolute tire fire in his own end.  Hopefully we have learned from Pouliot, Larsen, and Weber, and will be requiring all defensemen to be able to play like NHLers in their own end.

 

Shattenkirk isn't just a bad contract, he's a bad player.

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1 minute ago, MikeBossy said:

Just curious as Capfriendly shows him still with a NMC

yup Calgary is stuck with it: https://flamesnation.ca/2019/07/19/milan-lucics-arrival-also-adds-some-complications/

 

So Treliving has to protect Lucic in the ED, can't really buy him out, and didn't get a significant sweetener, for a guy they could have bought out for 1.9 mil per? 

 

Wow. 

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