Noseforthenet Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Okay, is anyone else sick of the Rangers being able to get out of their salary problems, only to have more salary problems, which they can constantly get out of?! Meanwhile...in Vancouver.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, Noseforthenet said: Okay, is anyone else sick of the Rangers being able to get out of their salary problems, only to have more salary problems, which they can constantly get out of?! Meanwhile...in Vancouver.... I'm not sure $6 million in cap penalties via the buyout is "getting out of" anything 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkSave Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 If the Rangers couldn't even dump Shattenkirk's contract (M-NTC NMC; they must have had limited options) to an NHL club with a trade and were forced to buy him out, I don't see how we could move LE and his contract to another team without adding significant sweetners. Sigh. Shattenkirk will be a great buy low candidate. If he stays healthy during a season he is almost a lock for 40+ points. Still relatively young and has had a decent career outside these past couple years in the big apple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 (edited) Could see him bouncing back somewhere else, I wonder where it'll be. He should still garner a respectable contract so I don't imagine he'll be dirt cheap. Edited August 1, 2019 by Coconuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Phil_314 said: Amongst our regulars last season, he put up more points (28) and at a higher rate than anyone in our top-4 not named Edler (higher than Stecher, Hutton, Tanev). If it wasn't that price tag (and if we hadn't signed Myers already) he would've been a value guy who can be sheltered in an offensive role (Stecher/ Tanev take the defensive minutes), and I feel like someone would scoop him up for cheap and reap the benefits like how Dallas likely would with Perry. If Shattenkirk is getting buyout money he could likely take a 1 year low money deal with a cup contending team to restore his market value. Maybe JB could entice him with a spot on the PP with Hughes, Ep40, Boeser and Horvat. Somehow I doubt it, feel the Shero swoops in and brings him to NJ. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 22 minutes ago, KirkSave said: If the Rangers couldn't even dump Shattenkirk's contract (M-NTC NMC; they must have had limited options) to an NHL club with a trade and were forced to buy him out, I don't see how we could move LE and his contract to another team without adding significant sweetners. Sigh. Shattenkirk will be a great buy low candidate. If he stays healthy during a season he is almost a lock for 40+ points. Still relatively young and has had a decent career outside these past couple years in the big apple. The oilers moved Lucic. Anything is possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Phat Fingers said: If Shattenkirk is getting buyout money he could likely take a 1 year low money deal with a cup contending team to restore his market value. Maybe JB could entice him with a spot on the PP with Hughes, Ep40, Boeser and Horvat. Somehow I doubt it, feel the Shero swoops in and brings him to NJ. Yuck. No place on this team for a defenseman who can't play defense. We finally are going into a season without one of Pouliot, Larsen, or Weber, and people are advocating bringing in another liability in the defensive zone? No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Yuck. No place on this team for a defenseman who can't play defense. We finally are going into a season without one of Pouliot, Larsen, or Weber, and people are advocating bringing in another liability in the defensive zone? No thanks. For 1m on a 1 year deal. I would take a flyer on him. If he doesn't pan out, JB can easily unload him, if he does bounce back we could, if nothing else, flip him for a decent pick or prospect. No real down side IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Phat Fingers said: For 1m on a 1 year deal. I would take a flyer on him. If he doesn't pan out, JB can easily unload him, if he does bounce back we could, if nothing else, flip him for a decent pick or prospect. No real down side IMO The down side is that Myers, Edler, Tanev, Hughes, Stecher,, Benn, Biega, Fantenberg, Sautner, Briesbrois, and OJ are all better than him. He'd be wasting a spot that could be used to develop a defensemaqn who can actually play at the NHL level in his own end. Shattenkirk isn't just a bad contract, he's a horrible player. You don't win with defensemen who are incapable of actually playing defense. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Odd. said: Wow. I actually did not realize how much of a poor season he had. Probably why he wasn’t even traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Captain Shattenkirk can only blame one person.........Kahnnnnn! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 55 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Could see him bouncing back somewhere else, I wonder where it'll be. He should still garner a respectable contract so I don't imagine he'll be dirt cheap. Maybe Seattle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 3 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: I think you're onto something with Edmonton. Shattenkirk will be a player who makes a lot of extra money because he was bought out. was it Lecavalier who was bought out twice? Money is not everything. He may not want to go to Edmonton... wonder why no Gardiner talk there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: Shattenkirk will be a player who makes a lot of extra money because he was bought out. was it Lecavalier who was bought out twice? Money is not everything. He may not want to go to Edmonton... wonder why no Gardiner talk there? they don't have the cap space. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: Shattenkirk will be a player who makes a lot of extra money because he was bought out. Lucky bastard. 9 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: was it Lecavalier who was bought out twice? Really? Once in Philadelphia and once in Los Angeles? 9 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: Money is not everything. He may not want to go to Edmonton... Nowadays, who the (expletive deleted) does? 9 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: wonder why no Gardiner talk there? Gardiner May have to take a pay cut. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 48 minutes ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said: Maybe Seattle? Won't he be a UFA this offseason? Anyone who might be interested in Gardiner may be looking at Shattenkirk as an option now? Maybe the Devils consider him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Ghost Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 15 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Won't he be a UFA this offseason? Anyone who might be interested in Gardiner may be looking at Shattenkirk as an option now? Maybe the Devils consider him? I think the devils make a lot of sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Noseforthenet said: Okay, is anyone else sick of the Rangers being able to get out of their salary problems, only to have more salary problems, which they can constantly get out of?! Meanwhile...in Vancouver.... We need to find out the "Ranger rule". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Warhippy said: I'm not sure $6 million in cap penalties via the buyout is "getting out of" anything No, but they figure out how to lose the player if they don't perform and are always in on any big player. Not that THAT part is a big deal. It's just kind of a WTF thing. Say if Panarin sh!+$ the bed in a couple years, they'll get to lose him so quickly, it's not even funny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 My guess is he signs in Tampa on a cheap 1 year deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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