ItTakesAnArmy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Right now the Canucks have over 12 mil off the books with injured players. Edler, Sutter, Motte and Graovac, with the additional 6+mil cap hit for Luongo, Spooner and Baerstchi Even at the start of the season they were millions over but had Roussel off the books and the way the cap works the longer off the more they can adjust the dollars. Who goes when Edler and Sutter come back? Even if they sent Eriksson down they still get a 5 mil cap hit. This team's cap situation may be the worst in the league right now. They are so capped out and have too many contracts. Benning cannot trade for players, there is no room. ONE of the only ways he can make space is to trade Eriksson but other teams will want a top draft pick added, Eriksson is now that bad contract traded from team to team with draft picks added. How ele wil he conjure up cap space? Already the team has compromised a prospect, Gaudette. He will not pass through waivers now. Benning will have to trade away roster players for picks or AHL players. Maybe if he trades Markstorm maybe he can get a pick to add to an Eriksson trade and take 10 mil off the cap, that still would not free up enough for trades but then he would not have to lose players for free. 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MattJVD Posted December 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2019 Edler, Motte, and Graovac are not off the books, just off the roster. Their cap hit is still applied. With all our injured players back, (meaning 16 forwards, 8 D, 2 golies). We'd be at an 82,798,206 cap hit, over the cap by $1,298,206. (Including our buyout, recapture penalty, and burried players). We would be 3 players over the roster limit with all of those players back, so 3 would have to be sent down. Sending down the cheapest 3 players would net us $2,315,000 in cap space, making us cap and roster compliant with over 1 mil in cap space. 3 2 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 14 minutes ago, ItTakesAnArmy said: Right now the Canucks have over 12 mil off the books with injured players. Edler, Sutter, Motte and Graovac, with the additional 6+mil cap hit for Luongo, Spooner and Baerstchi Even at the start of the season they were millions over but had Roussel off the books and the way the cap works the longer off the more they can adjust the dollars. Who goes when Edler and Sutter come back? Even if they sent Eriksson down they still get a 5 mil cap hit. This team's cap situation may be the worst in the league right now. They are so capped out and have too many contracts. Benning cannot trade for players, there is no room. ONE of the only ways he can make space is to trade Eriksson but other teams will want a top draft pick added, Eriksson is now that bad contract traded from team to team with draft picks added. How ele wil he conjure up cap space? Already the team has compromised a prospect, Gaudette. He will not pass through waivers now. Benning will have to trade away roster players for picks or AHL players. Maybe if he trades Markstorm maybe he can get a pick to add to an Eriksson trade and take 10 mil off the cap, that still would not free up enough for trades but then he would not have to lose players for free. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wanless Posted December 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2019 You should really play around with the arm chair gm function On capfriendly.com This will tell you that sending Schaller graovac and Chatfield down keeps us under the cap and at the roster limit And haven't you heard, Jim Benning is no longer the guy on the hot seat. You should be complaining about blowing leads! 1 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the grinder Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, ItTakesAnArmy said: Right now the Canucks have over 12 mil off the books with injured players. Edler, Sutter, Motte and Graovac, with the additional 6+mil cap hit for Luongo, Spooner and Baerstchi Even at the start of the season they were millions over but had Roussel off the books and the way the cap works the longer off the more they can adjust the dollars. Who goes when Edler and Sutter come back? Even if they sent Eriksson down they still get a 5 mil cap hit. This team's cap situation may be the worst in the league right now. They are so capped out and have too many contracts. Benning cannot trade for players, there is no room. ONE of the only ways he can make space is to trade Eriksson but other teams will want a top draft pick added, Eriksson is now that bad contract traded from team to team with draft picks added. How ele wil he conjure up cap space? Already the team has compromised a prospect, Gaudette. He will not pass through waivers now. Benning will have to trade away roster players for picks or AHL players. Maybe if he trades Markstorm maybe he can get a pick to add to an Eriksson trade and take 10 mil off the cap, that still would not free up enough for trades but then he would not have to lose players for free. loui gets a severe case of jock itch is one way to get out of it ala hossa 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BCNate Posted December 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, ItTakesAnArmy said: Right now the Canucks have over 12 mil off the books with injured players. Edler, Sutter, Motte and Graovac, with the additional 6+mil cap hit for Luongo, Spooner and Baerstchi Even at the start of the season they were millions over but had Roussel off the books and the way the cap works the longer off the more they can adjust the dollars. Who goes when Edler and Sutter come back? Even if they sent Eriksson down they still get a 5 mil cap hit. This team's cap situation may be the worst in the league right now. They are so capped out and have too many contracts. Benning cannot trade for players, there is no room. ONE of the only ways he can make space is to trade Eriksson but other teams will want a top draft pick added, Eriksson is now that bad contract traded from team to team with draft picks added. How ele wil he conjure up cap space? Already the team has compromised a prospect, Gaudette. He will not pass through waivers now. Benning will have to trade away roster players for picks or AHL players. Maybe if he trades Markstorm maybe he can get a pick to add to an Eriksson trade and take 10 mil off the cap, that still would not free up enough for trades but then he would not have to lose players for free. No disrespect, but I don't think you fully understand how any of this works. Canucks have 0 cap issues this year at all, and are in very good shape for the next couple of seasons. Not many teams in the NHL are in as good a spot as the Canucks with regards to the cap. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Who's in charge of this B rate organization? Can't even manage a cap. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItTakesAnArmy Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 It isn't whether or not they are under the cap now, it has to do with what else they can do, which is nothing. They cannot trade for a player without getting rid of cap space. They cannot trade cap space for an draft pick, if anything they might trade another draft pick to create cap space. As far as next year they will have almost 10 mil in reduced cap due to buy outs, claw backs and bonuses, 10 million less And they will have only 13 players signed. That would include both Sven and Eriksson as signed. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItTakesAnArmy Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 35 minutes ago, Wanless said: And haven't you heard, Jim Benning is no longer the guy on the hot seat. You should be complaining about blowing leads! Really? The season isn't even half way yet. Every season he has been here the team looked great in the beginning, what is so different this time? Only the injuries have been less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nuxfanabroad Posted December 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2019 Sherlock, you might wanna apply that magnifying glass to the cap list of our incoming opponent. There's more unnecessary drama in that post than a daytime soap! 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, ItTakesAnArmy said: It isn't whether or not they are under the cap now, it has to do with what else they can do, which is nothing. They cannot trade for a player without getting rid of cap space. They cannot trade cap space for an draft pick, if anything they might trade another draft pick to create cap space. As far as next year they will have almost 10 mil in reduced cap due to buy outs, claw backs and bonuses, 10 million less And they will have only 13 players signed. That would include both Sven and Eriksson as signed. I don't think they had any plans to make a move this year anyway. If anything, they will try and shed a player or two for a pick/prospect 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stawns Posted December 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, ItTakesAnArmy said: Really? The season isn't even half way yet. Every season he has been here the team looked great in the beginning, what is so different this time? Only the injuries have been less. That's true, however injuries have been as bad just earlier. The difference is they now have the depth to weather those injuries 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 35 minutes ago, the grinder said: loui gets a severe case of jock itch is one way to get out of it ala hossa We gotta wash that man right outa' our hair!(I think that was the old ad slogan?..) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, ItTakesAnArmy said: Really? The season isn't even half way yet. Every season he has been here the team looked great in the beginning, what is so different this time? Only the injuries have been less. How many of those years were we near the top of the league in special teams and goal differential into December? This is the best team under Benning’s tenure, it really shouldn’t be difficult to see that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HerrDrFunk Posted December 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, ItTakesAnArmy said: Really? The season isn't even half way yet. Every season he has been here the team looked great in the beginning, what is so different this time? Only the injuries have been less. 5 3 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 19 minutes ago, RonMexico said: Who's in charge of this B rate organization? Can't even manage a cap. There's a lot of people who have lines of credit and credit cards and can't manage that. Let alone a salary cap in a pro sports league. Besides I don't think anyone expected the league to throw the team under the bus over Lu's contact. Or I guess knowing Canucks luck we should have guessed it. Worst case we might lose some depth. And be stuck with Eriksson in the minors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, HerrDrFunk said: Serious improvement for sure. That's more than just the Quinn Hughes factor, and other young core guys maturing too. We have depth now of actual NHL caliber players coming in when injuries happen. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, ItTakesAnArmy said: Benning cannot trade for players, there is no room. ? 1 hour ago, ItTakesAnArmy said: ONE of the only ways he can make space is to trade Eriksson 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Benning can trade for players, he just has to trade enough guys out. Gm ing 101. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Red Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, ItTakesAnArmy said: Right now the Canucks have over 12 mil off the books with injured players. Edler, Sutter, Motte and Graovac, with the additional 6+mil cap hit for Luongo, Spooner and Baerstchi Even at the start of the season they were millions over but had Roussel off the books and the way the cap works the longer off the more they can adjust the dollars. Who goes when Edler and Sutter come back? Even if they sent Eriksson down they still get a 5 mil cap hit. This team's cap situation may be the worst in the league right now. They are so capped out and have too many contracts. Benning cannot trade for players, there is no room. ONE of the only ways he can make space is to trade Eriksson but other teams will want a top draft pick added, Eriksson is now that bad contract traded from team to team with draft picks added. How ele wil he conjure up cap space? Already the team has compromised a prospect, Gaudette. He will not pass through waivers now. Benning will have to trade away roster players for picks or AHL players. Maybe if he trades Markstorm maybe he can get a pick to add to an Eriksson trade and take 10 mil off the cap, that still would not free up enough for trades but then he would not have to lose players for free. Thanks for making this topic. I got the answers I wanted from the thread that followed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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