aGENT Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Sweathog said: It's coaching, I think he's lost the room. Nothing against Green, but all coaches get replaced eventually, and now it's Green's turn to move on. If that were true the players wouldn't be trying as hard as they are or be as frustrated at losing. Edited March 5, 2020 by aGENT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GritGrinder Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said: Can some one briefly explain what or why Gaudette was so bad this game, which is what I read in here a few times? (I missed the game) I think its more the last 35 or so games actually. The thing with Gaudette is, he doesn't throw big hits, he doesn't kill penalties or shut down other teams top lines, doesn't win faceoffs etc. He's here to provide secondary/tertiary scoring and he did that the first 19 games (6g, 7a) but only 5g, 9a in the 37 games since. So when he's not scoring he really isn't doing much more which is why fans have started to turn on him, but he's still young and its early in his career so he will develop other tools and hone the ones he has...at least that's the hope of the fans. Edited March 5, 2020 by GritGrinder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 I hate to say this to a local guy, but Stetcher needs to go. He single handily cost us like 5 or 6 games now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, aGENT said: A bunch of CDC'ers thought he should have skated left on this one play but instead he went right. Some of them think he should now be traded immediately. Others are blaming Green's clearly inferior coaching and believe HE should be fired. Others still, (despite previously lauding Brackett for the pick) are blaming Benning for drafting him and demanding HE be fired. Welcome to CDC. Missing something... Edited March 5, 2020 by Junkyard Dog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweathog Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, aGENT said: If that were true the players wouldn't be trying as hard as they are or be as frustrated at losing. Players can still try hard and still tune out the coach 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 minute ago, theo5789 said: We actually have dropped in draft position every year we've been at the bottom. We have been screwed time and again with "lotto" picks. Good on Benning and crew nabbing very good prospects (and for teams passing on them). Mission accomplished for them. They grabbed the necessary players to build a new young core, time to build on this foundation rather than continuing to dig ourselves further into the ground. Agreed, the drafts have been good to us, which is exactly what Team Tank was all about, so maybe you and anyone else who attempts to disparage Team Tank can concede that the results of these drafts have been fantastic and at least feign a nod in the direction of Team Tank’s intended and delivered results. Benning gets full credit for doing right at the podium, but it’s HOW they got there that I criticize and where Team Tank has learned to endorse Benning’s Silver Lining Plan, which looks to be improving, I’ll give him that. This was the most expensive and happenstance rebuild I can recall, but picking high has been a resounding success, albeit completely unintentional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, Sweathog said: Players can still try hard and still tune out the coach 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garthsbutcher Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, aGENT said: If that were true the players wouldn't be trying as hard as they are or be as frustrated at losing. I don't see a team ready to play at the start of each game whatsoever, I don't see a team that can protect a lead. What I do see is a fragile team that doesn't respond to the coaches, all of them. They will be gone by the summer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 40 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said: It’s hard not to like their chances, but they also keep wetting the bed and melting down at the worst of times. It's not a good look and is something they'll need to work on for sure. 40 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said: I’ve heard all about it on here that this inconsistency is due to their youth, but really, their youth has been consistent enough that this excuse is just that, an excuse. I tend to agree. The younger players have been pretty consistent, which is a great sign, as they'll be the core going forward. 40 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said: They are so close to being a good team. Agreed. The glimpses of dominance they've shown this year is inspiring to say the least. Looking forward to see how other Benning draftees like Podkolzin and Hoglander mix in with the team going forward. 40 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said: What is their problem? It's really hard to pinpoint. I'd say consistency is the issue that plagues them the most. 40 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said: Coaching? Green has done a good job overall, but does make some very questionable decisions. Putting out Roussel in the dying minutes of the game is one of them. 40 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said: Skill? There seems to be ample skill in this team. 40 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said: Desire? This to me is a question mark. Coming out as flat as they have in certain games recently is stupefying. Should the urgency not be there in every game of the season? 40 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said: Leadership? I think Bo is still a good choice for captain. He's growing into the role, and will get more comfortable with it. The even keel interview isn't a necessity though. If Bo's upset about the outcome of a game, I'm fine with him showing it in an interview. 40 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said: Injuries? Every team gets them. Pittsburgh seemed to be capable of rising past them for a spell earlier this season. 40 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said: Game management? This is a huge issue that is plaguing the entire league. 40 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said: I don’t think the Canucks have much they can blame their issues on other than desire., which is partly an aspect of leadership. They don’t seem to want it enough, but if they ever flip that switch they could do some damage in the playoffs. I'm curious as to what is behind the lackluster starts and, more recently, the 3rd period collapses. Some of the veterans aren't carrying their weight and it shows. Bo's doing his best in his first year of captaincy, and should only improve. I'd be very interested to see who Bo would choose to support him as assistant captains if he had the choice. 40 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said: I’ll give credit to JB for trying to build a roster with a spine and some will, but I’m not sure the results are there. If they come up short this year, his cap team is going to be difficult to defend. At least it’s only Aqua man who he has to answer too, the guy who signed a bunch of blank cheques this summer for impact UFAs. Seeing a greater pushback this year is a very welcome sight. It speaks to cohesion between the players, for the most part. 40 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said: Benning is going to need some more hair dye if they can’t get going here. He's going to be busy this summer, with some more restructuring of the roster. He's gotten better with each year, so I'm looking forward to his next moves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, GritGrinder said: I think its more the last 35 or so games actually. The thing with Gaudette is, he doesn't throw big hits, he doesn't kill penalties or shut down other teams top lines, doesn't win faceoffs etc. He's here to provide secondary/tertiary scoring and he did that the first 19 games (6g, 7a) but only 5g, 9a in the 37 games since. So when he's not scoring he really isn't doing much more which is why fans have started to turn on him, but he's still young and its early in his career so he will develop other tools and hone the ones he has...at least that's the hope of the fans. His wingers have not been ideal for his production and combined with his deployment, as you say, he’s miscast in his role. I can see him putting together a Bonino-type career, elsewhere. 3rd line duty with Rousell isn’t helping his cause, though I’m somewhat feeling biased in defending him these days because of projections I had made for him and therefore must see though to satisfy my ego! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 minute ago, garthsbutcher said: I don't see a team ready to play at the start of each game whatsoever, I don't see a team that can protect a lead. What I do see is a fragile team that doesn't respond to the coaches, all of them. They will be gone by the summer. Looks like the players have no trust in their coach and his systems. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 minute ago, garthsbutcher said: I don't see a team ready to play at the start of each game whatsoever, I don't see a team that can protect a lead. What I do see is a fragile team that doesn't respond to the coaches, all of them. They will be gone by the summer. Can you PM the Lotto Max numbers for this Friday too? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 51 minutes ago, coho8888 said: Agreed. I've followed the canucks for many years and I have never seen so many missed assignments, poor coverage, giveaways etc.. Mind you, the defense has improved from last year (for what its worth) but most of that improvement has been in the puck moving end of things (hughes, myers). The problem is that other than hughes , we really don't have many defensemen in our lineup right now that we've drafted and developed over the last couple of years. Hence we have had to go the free agent route which means older and overpayment. Juolevi and to a lesser extent, Woo, were the ones that were supposed to be battling for jobs but their development has been derailed by injuries. It's been a very unfortunate state of affairs regarding the injuries plaguing defensemen in the minors. I'm hoping to see Juolevi make the jump soon. That would be awesome. Until then though, Benning will have to look for defensemen via trade or free agency. It's what it is at this point. Benning has an eye on the roster he wants and he's not done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 22 minutes ago, aGENT said: If that were true the players wouldn't be trying as hard as they are or be as frustrated at losing. Respectfully, I think you’re way offside here. No need for an essay or testimonials from my circles, but recent media releases should provide you with at least some indication that players will soldier on despite who their coach currently is. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 56 minutes ago, spur1 said: Nobody is going anywhere. Ok. Once the season ends, whenever that is, we'll have to reconvene and see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said: His wingers have not been ideal for his production and combined with his deployment, as you say, he’s miscast in his role. I can see him putting together a Bonino-type career, elsewhere. 3rd line duty with Rousell isn’t helping his cause, though I’m somewhat feeling biased in defending him these days because of projections I had made for him and therefore must see though to satisfy my ego! Gaud's gaudda round out his game a bit more. I am not worried about his production. I don't want to have to shelter him anymore and have him play those PK and match up duties while he provides that secondary scoring. I want to get rid of plugs like Sutter, Roussel and Eriksson and get better suited players for our team so that we can surround our younger players coming up with the likes of a rounded out Gaud and such without the worry of sheltering the young guys because they'll have great line mates. Edited March 5, 2020 by Junkyard Dog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said: It's been a very unfortunate state of affairs regarding the injuries plaguing defensemen in the minors. I'm hoping to see Juolevi make the jump soon. That would be awesome. Until then though, Benning will have to look for defensemen via trade or free agency. It's what it is at this point. Benning has an eye on the roster he wants and he's not done. Bone will play on our team once his computer takes season is done. He will be in our top four next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said: Respectfully, I think you’re way offside here. No need for an essay or testimonials from my circles, but recent media releases should provide you with at least some indication that players will soldier on despite who their coach currently is. They're not going to just sit in a corner and pout, certainly. But I see way too much 'care' out there for a team that's 'quit on their coaches'. It's a fun narrative though for the amygdala crowd. Edited March 5, 2020 by aGENT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Just now, Alflives said: Bone will play on our team once his computer takes season is done. He will be in our top four next season. A potential top for with Stetch, Boner and QH.... Oh boy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Bone will play on our team once his computer takes season is done. He will be in our top four next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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