[GDT] Vancouver Canucks vs. Vegas Golden Knights | August 29th, 2020 | 6:45pm PT, SNP | R2G3

[mayor MCcheese]

2 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said:

Most of the cops I know have the mental fortitude to let the verbal jabs roll off their back. They don’t whip out their pistols if someone calls them a pig. 

Yes, most do. Most cops are great. By why risk it? What’s to be gained? If the cop has already decided to arrest you, giving them attitude and resisting isn’t going to accomplish  anything other than put yourself and the cop in danger. I’m just saying you can’t put all the blame on the cops. Why can’t we have a discussion about proper behaviour when interacting with the cops?

[xereau]

2 hours ago, Me_ said:

HUGHES - MYERS

EDLER - TANEV

STETCHER - FANTENBERG

(Probably minus Toffoli)

 

or

 

HUGHES - MYERS

EDLER - TRYAMKIN

STETCHER - FANTENBERG

(Probably plus Toffoli)

 

I assume no one is concerned, nor questioning whether Markstrom gets signed.

I think he is loyal to this team and will take a sweetheart deal.

[Toni Zamboni]

6 hours ago, VforVirtanen said:

Wow it is really awful to realize some of the people on these boards who you thought were just mildly abrasive but still decent people and fans are actually right wing doichebags who don’t care about human rights. Genuinely astounded. 
 

I was happier not knowing. You would think I accidentally stumbled my way into the Alberta message boards. 

that is why i avoid off-topic general forum  

 

Edited August 28, 2020 by Toni Zamboni

[King Heffy]

1 hour ago, Timråfan said:

I'm glad there are some really wise humans on this board. It could have been all redneck with all the testosteron flying in the air.  

 

The postponement has worked as intended an gotten people talking about it.  If nothing else, I now know which posters are ok with racism.  We've even seen Horvat called out for his comments.

 

The team decided, as a group, that this is the right thing to do.  By all counts, this group is very involved in the community and is a huge positive influence, dating back to the days of Quinn. If anyone honestly doesn't want to support the team after this, Seattle is getting a franchise soon.

[Biff Tannen]

4 hours ago, Quinn Skates said:

First of all, there's no fascism in America. Lol

Secondly, my observation of them as being anarchists and marxists at the same time is accurate as you accurately characterized them.

They are fascists because as you pointed out, they're communists. Communists, socialists and fascists share the common bond of anti- capitalism and anti- liberalism.

 

Don't be tricked by the name that they use. It's just like the Federal Reserve that is a private corporation and which has nothing to do with the federal government. 

 

You can't say there is no fascism in America at the same time as describing large numbers of people in America as fascists. I know I'm wasting my time here, but I suggest you go read some things about what fascism is because you clearly don't know. That's okay but unless we have a common framework for what words mean this is just going to go round in circles.

 

There is no red. They are red because they are blue. Red and blue share the common bond of being colours.

[VforVasili]

3 hours ago, Toni Zamboni said:

that is why i avoid off-topic general forum  

 

Me too! And then they invaded the GDT!

[canuckster19]

5 hours ago, awalk said:

Good for them, athletes coming together -- not just black athletes. This is a civil rights issue that affects all of us. Black lives matter.

 

I maybe inferring incorrectly, but as a Canadian who’s at least 3 generations on all sides including 1/8 Cree, I take offense to the thought that we are bystanders who are being affected by this. I don’t disagree that Canada has its own history to reconcile with, but to assume we are anywhere near as bad as the US is grandstanding bs. I have my own history with being belittled and my own grievances with being ignored, some people on here will know what I mean. I would still rather be a proud flag waving Canadian even in Sweden than anything else. 
 

As for the stoppage itself, if the players agree to it, who am I to question it? More power to them.

Edited August 28, 2020 by canuckster19

[Stelar]

10 hours ago, VforVirtanen said:

Wow it is really awful to realize some of the people on these boards who you thought were just mildly abrasive but still decent people and fans are actually right wing doichebags who don’t care about human rights. Genuinely astounded. 
 

I was happier not knowing. You would think I accidentally stumbled my way into the Alberta message boards. 

Lol, judges some on these boards for being right wing douche bags then goes and stereotypes an entire province. Thumbs up?

[spook007]

6 hours ago, Me_ said:

Yeah. A teen with an AR-15 who was followed by the bystanders who saw him shoot someone dead.

 

Then he got confronted and as they tried to restrain him, he turned around, fell on the ground and shot two more people.

 

He got up and went toward the cops.

 

Here bud:

Refresh your memory.

 

 

No at all getting in to this discussion, but just watching the video... have to wonder how far down the street he would have been allowed to walk with that riffle, had he been black...

Will be interesting to see the court case afterwards... 

The boy had no business, what so ever going around the street with a riffle in the first place...

 

On a side note, a lot of folks standing with riffles 'protecting property'... if they think they are in their right to do so, why are they covering their faces?

Terrible just terrible....

[Green Building]

10 hours ago, VforVirtanen said:

Wow it is really awful to realize some of the people on these boards who you thought were just mildly abrasive but still decent people and fans are actually right wing doichebags who don’t care about human rights. Genuinely astounded. 
 

I was happier not knowing. You would think I accidentally stumbled my way into the Alberta message boards. 

Welcome to the wonderful world of getting to know people.

[VforVasili]

12 minutes ago, Stelar said:

Lol, judges some on these boards for being right wing douche bags then goes and stereotypes an entire province. Thumbs up?

Sorry to hurt anyone’s sensitive feelings. I thought of all places this message board was a “safe space” to make fun of Alberta. 

[Green Building]

5 hours ago, xereau said:

I think he is loyal to this team and will take a sweetheart deal.

It's going to be fascinating to see how agents deal with the 1st wave of FA signings.

[bishopshodan]

I keep thinking,

What kind of parents let their 17 yr old own a rifle and travel overnight with it to a protest? I know 17 isn't that young but its not that old either. I think he lived at home? and by the looks of it has enough money. Did his parents even have clue? I haven't read much on it..

[spook007]

7 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said:

Totally shows, what I don't get.... Why?

[VforVasili]

The part of all of this that grinds my gears is the folks who decide now is the time to engage in pseudo-intellectual “Debate“ and hair splitting over the organizational leadership of this movement. 
 

The very fact that this is an enjoyable topic for you speaks to your privilege.”Ah some delightful political sparring over someone else’s problems! Jolly good!” And then the inevitable complaints of censorship when people hold them accountable for their crappy opinions. 

 

Thus is not a political debate. It’s a social problem, and the team you supposedly love has made their allegiance known on this issue. Maybe you need to think long and hard about that.  

 

[bishopshodan]

Just a reminder for anyone saying something like....'but one of the guys going up to the 17yr old had a hand gun'

 

The 17 year old already had shot some one. This is what some gun supporters have asked for, good people to carry their guns in case a bad guy starts shooting. 

 

Don't get it twisted. 

[BoKnows]

I really think this a step in the right direction for the NHL.

 

First, it shows people that the NHL stands against racism.  It would not of been a good a look for the NHL if they were the only league to not take a stand against racism.  Games are only postponed by 1-2 days (minor inconvenience).  I'm not sure about you guys, but I was getting tired of the NHL not being socially aware and pretending like nothing was going on around them.

 

Second, this is good for the Canucks.  Gives Marky some extra rest.  Maybe Myers will be ready for Saturday now!

 

Lastly, politics has been around in sports for as long as I can remember.  "Keeping politics out of sports" holds true to a degree.  The NHL is standing against racism not posting  as campaign videos for a certain politician or something.  Some things are just too big to be ignored.  Some of the most powerful sporting moments in recent memory are due to politics.

 

 

That's my 2 cents.

[BoKnows]

Oh yeah to all the people who are claiming that the postponement of games will do nothing are totally wrong.  Look around you, we're talking about racism right now instead of the Canucks game.

[Toews]

5 hours ago, Davathor said:

Lame reason to suspend one of the only outlets for people to enjoy. There's been enough "awareness" risen for BLM, that it's to the point where I'm supposed to feel guilty for being white. 

Who told you to feel guilty about being white? Black Lives Matter is primarily about anti-black racism. Plenty of supporters of the BLM movement  happen to be white. 

5 hours ago, Davathor said:

You know what? I'm not white, I'm a 3rd generation Russian Canadian. More importantly I'm a doukhobor. My people were chased out of their homeland by their own country for their religious beliefs. Starved to death, enslaved and conscripted. This is just another form of the new SJW meta.

Thanks for telling us your ancestry, not sure what relevance this holds to the BLM movement. 

5 hours ago, Davathor said:

I've never been a racist, or have I expected anything from anyone of any other background or race.

Good for you. All black people expect from other races and backgrounds, is not to be targeted due to their skin colour. Too much to ask?

5 hours ago, Davathor said:

But I'm goddamn sick and tired of being expected to hold some form of white shame because of what other people's ancestors did to another group of humans.

What does this have to do with BLM? I don't feel these emotions that you do, "shame", "guilt"... For what? I have not targeted black people myself, I am not responsible for the actions of those came before me or those who continue to perpetuate violence upon black people.

5 hours ago, Davathor said:

If we truly want to move forward, partisan groups like BLM, driven by biased social media is NOT the way to do it. The flaws in this platform should be obvious to all but the severely mentally handicapped. 

That's fine, you simply want to "move forward" probably because racism has little to no effect of your life. Black people want real, meaningful change because their people are getting killed and brutalized and they feel under threat.

5 hours ago, Davathor said:

I just want to watch some politics free hockey while I work out of a hotel for 21 days a month in the middle of &^@#ing nowhere

Its great that you ended your post with this comment so that we can see what this is really about, your entitlement. You felt all the emotions that you weren't asked to feel, "shame", "guilt", but you refused to feel the only emotion that black people are asking people for which is empathy, just plain old caring for your fellow man. 

[bishopshodan]

3 minutes ago, BoKnows said:

politics has been around in sports for as long as I can remember