Nuck1991 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 wtf is going on, is he getting or staying? we need to clear cap space, either via buyout or trade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz-Pix Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: Ideally he'd be here 6 years and we'd buy him out the 7th and save 4M in cap. 5-6 years is enough time to draft/develop another solid defenseman and by that same time stretch, 5-6 years, their ELC should be ending. If we plan properly bridge deals for Hog/Pod/Lind/etc would be ending when OEL's time here is over. So in terms of long term vision it can work. We just need to figure out Petey/Hughes because even if we sign them to 3 year bridge deals we will have to figure their long term deals out during the time we have OEL. You just have to be very cautious in FA over this time. Benning being very cautious in free agency? Uhmmm...I wouldn't hold my breath. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 A new thread needs to start up guessing what @grandmaster does for work. That is before we each mysteriously disappear. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Blitz-Pix said: Benning being very cautious in free agency? Uhmmm...I wouldn't hold my breath. LOL So cautious that Domingue, Rafferty and Lind are going to be top players for us this upcoming year. This OEL deal needs to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 51 minutes ago, Rush17 said: care to expand on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 29 minutes ago, aGENT said: First, Bouchard is overrated Second, Edmonton doesn't have enough decent prospects to be moving them when did that stop them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo2337 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 I'm scratching my head trying to figure out if this idea would work. How about a deal where Ericksson for OEL with cap retained on both sides? Eriksson $3M retained plus ?? for OEL $2M retained I suppose they need the cap space, probably won't work. At 5.5 to 6.5M, that contract doesn't look so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckGAME Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Suspense is killing me with this. Just tell us one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Robert Long said: I'm sure Stevie Y would take Bouchard to dump Koskinen. So far tho Stevie hasn't done much to use that cap space of his. Staal was a smart move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Just now, King Heffy said: Staal was a smart move. and then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 42 minutes ago, tas said: classic defense lawyer Or cop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Just now, King Heffy said: Or cop. I say prosecutor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Just now, Robert Long said: and then? Probably doesn't want to take much long term. Nothing wrong with him being patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danaimo Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, gizmo2337 said: I'm scratching my head trying to figure out if this idea would work. How about a deal where Ericksson for OEL with cap retained on both sides? Eriksson $3M retained plus ?? for OEL $2M retained I suppose they need the cap space, probably won't work. At 5.5 to 6.5M, that contract doesn't look so bad. The only reason OEL is in play is because ARI need to shed payroll. If they retain salary it essentially means they have to pay $$ for nothing at all which is the last thing they want. By taking Erikksson, they can increase salary cap without paying much in payroll. They do not need to worry about salary cap Edited October 8, 2020 by danaimo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: Ideally he'd be here 6 years and we'd buy him out the 7th and save 4M in cap. 5-6 years is enough time to draft/develop another solid defenseman and by that same time stretch, 5-6 years, their ELC should be ending. If we plan properly bridge deals for Hog/Pod/Lind/etc would be ending when OEL's time here is over. So in terms of long term vision it can work. We just need to figure out Petey/Hughes because even if we sign them to 3 year bridge deals we will have to figure their long term deals out during the time we have OEL. You just have to be very cautious in FA over this time. Imagine if Edler had 2 years remaining instead of 1. Age wise that is the same situation we would face with OEL. Interestingly both players looked to hit their prime in the years between 23-25. From about 27-30 Edler had a dip in his play then really bounced back in his 30s. Last season Edler had .56 points per game compared to a career average of .46 and the season before his 10 goals was the second most in his career despite playing only 56 games. The last two seasons he also faced more defensive zone starts and had stronger underlying numbers IE Edler got better. I think when guys are in the second half of their 20s and are relied on to be the #1 guy their bodies and minds can take a toll. now they are two different players but Edler we an example makes me hopeful. now on paper the two were comparable last season OEL at the same age has been a better player than Edler throughout his career. As the number two guy behind Hughes he might be a fantastic addition 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 minute ago, King Heffy said: Probably doesn't want to take much long term. Nothing wrong with him being patient. dunno, nearly 30 mil in cap space and all he managed to get was a 2nd round pick. Seems like a big missed opportunity to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Robert Long said: dunno, nearly 30 mil in cap space and all he managed to get was a 2nd round pick. Seems like a big missed opportunity to me. Could also be working with an internal cap. Lots of moves still to be made if teams need to clear room for a UFA, or save it to help teams out at the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squamfan Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 wondering if demko would be in the package Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 29 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: A new thread needs to start up guessing what @grandmaster does for work. That is before we each mysteriously disappear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, Squamfan said: wondering if demko would be in the package reports were saying they were asking for Demko but it was a hard no on that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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