peaches5 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, MikeyD said: Anybody who says Edler is our best defenseman and claims they're intelligent is laughable. What does he do that's better offensively than Hughes? Defensively than Tanev? He's not in the same league in either of those categories as those two. You're living in the past. The guy puts up 0.5ppg playing on the powerplay and over 22 minutes a night. What next, you're gonna tell me he's a fast skater? Nice another clueless hockey fan, lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) . Edited September 23, 2020 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Andy Strickland: Pietrangelo wants 9-9.5M on the open market, 8M from St.Louis 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Teemu Selänne said: Andy Strickland: Pietrangelo wants 9-9.5M on the open market, 8M from St.Louis *Oof* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Castiglione Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKnight Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 No way i give passed 7.5-8 with the current economic conditions of the league. Flat cap most likely for another 3-4 seasons. One very bad contract could cripple you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNucks1 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 what team even has a cap space for him and one he wouldnt decline an offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) Yeaaaah, I'd love to have him but that's way too high given the nature of a stagnant cap. Something between 7-8 is more realistic. Edited September 24, 2020 by Coconuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) On 9/21/2020 at 11:12 PM, aGENT said: He's our best, all around, 2 way D. He's nearly as good defensively as Tanev while better offensively, physically etc. There's a reasons he's played just under 25mins atoi for like a decade (and was still at just under 23 this year, at 34 years old, and despite the addition of Hughes and Myers). Have some &^@#ing respect. Tanev BTW has averaged right around 20. Unless you're arguing that our coaches are complete morons who play inferior players more minutes, I'm not sure you really have a leg to stand on here. Hughes is another thing altogether. I agree with everything you stated about Edler, but yea I believe Green can be a moron at times Edited September 24, 2020 by Brock Botanen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 10 hours ago, Teemu Selänne said: Andy Strickland: Pietrangelo wants 9-9.5M on the open market, 8M from St.Louis Why would St Louis not re-sign him at 8m? Gotta be some serious term he's looking for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 17 minutes ago, HKSR said: Why would St Louis not re-sign him at 8m? Gotta be some serious term he's looking for... From what NHL Network has reported St Louis has offered 8 x 8. Apparently Piet still wants to test the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirston Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 If that’s true it would sure be nice if st Luis retracts the offer if he tests the waters and comes up with less. Then drop to 7mx7yr and shove it. I know that’s a pipe dream though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 12 hours ago, Teemu Selänne said: Andy Strickland: Pietrangelo wants 9-9.5M on the open market, 8M from St.Louis who does he think he is, Erik Karlsson? Maybe if he was 27. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Robert Long said: who does he think he is, Erik Karlsson? Maybe if he was 27. Yeah, that's a lot of cheddar for a guy in the wrong side of 30... Still hard not to kick those tires though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Just now, aGENT said: Yeah, that's a lot of cheddar for a guy in the wrong side of 30... Still hard not to kick those tires though. I guess it depends on how its structured maybe? whats the maximum variance allowed now between contract years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Robert Long said: who does he think he is, Erik Karlsson? Maybe if he was 27. Exactly. I find it odd he isn't jumping all over the reported 8 x 8 offer from the Blues. Most he can get elsewhere is 7 years. All I can think that maybe the relationship with Blues management has soured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 minute ago, rekker said: Exactly. I find it odd he isn't jumping all over the reported 8 x 8 offer from the Blues. Most he can get elsewhere is 7 years. All I can think that maybe the relationship with Blues management has soured. maybe he wants mostly bonus money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Robert Long said: I guess it depends on how its structured maybe? whats the maximum variance allowed now between contract years? Ugggh too early for this man Can't have more than a 50% variance from one year to the next... And IIRC something about you can't go lower than 35% of the lowest amount of the first two years of a front load deal... or something.... Need more coffee for this 4 minutes ago, rekker said: Exactly. I find it odd he isn't jumping all over the reported 8 x 8 offer from the Blues. Most he can get elsewhere is 7 years. All I can think that maybe the relationship with Blues management has soured. Maybe he sees the writing on the wall? They're not exactly a young team. Maybe his agent is just leveraging everything they can? I would have thought long and hard at letting Tanev + walk and paying to clear some salary at $8-$8.5m x 7... But $9m+ is getting awful hard to swallow, particularly in the current financial climate. I mean the guy is good but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 minute ago, aGENT said: Ugggh too early for this man Can't have more than a 50% variance from one year to the next... And IIRC something about you can't go lower than 35% of the lowest amount of the first two years of a front load deal... or something.... Need more coffee for this Maybe he sees the writing on the wall? They're not exactly a young team. Maybe his agent is just leveraging everything they can? I would have thought long and hard at letting Tanev + walk and paying to clear some salary at $8-$8.5m x 7... But $9m+ is getting awful hard to swallow, particularly in the current financial climate. I mean the guy is good but... OK so front load the 1st 1/2 with bonus money, full salary and max variance the back 1/2. Still feels like a potentially unmovable problem in 5 or 6 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Robert Long said: OK so front load the 1st 1/2 with bonus money, full salary and max variance the back 1/2. Still feels like a potentially unmovable problem in 5 or 6 years. Yes. And it sounds like guys actually want back loaded deals in the hope escrow goes down over the contract, so they get to keep more of their money. So you need to reverse that lol. Edited September 24, 2020 by aGENT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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