Drop Em Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Just now, grandmaster said: I just reviewed a couple of his “fights”; the most recent one with Evander Kane and the one a few years back against Ryan Getzlaf. As I remembered, his fights were hardly a show. Let’s not get carried away here. A 6’7 player in Gudbranson ought to of faired way better. If he had won a fight it would be just barely The guys been in more than 30 fights in the NHL, and you bring up the two that closest (but still don't) defend your argument. But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of the truth. And the truth is that Dana Murzyn was one of the biggest speed bags of his era.....or any era for that matter. He valiantly stuck up for his teammates, but he took a beating doing it. Gudbranson has had many fights other than the ones you mentioned. Like PhillipBlunt said, he fought Matt Martin (one of the toughest guys in the league) in a good angry tilt, he fought Tom Wilson (also one of the toughest guys in the league) in another decent tilt, Michael Haley in a good fight, and I could go on. He pounds the guys he's expected to, and he does very well against the real tough guys. And he's definitely won a LOT more fights than what he's lost. Murzyn lost more fights in a year, than Gudbranson has in his career. And he's 6'5 not 6'7 like you suggest.....but hey, again those are just FACTS! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, oldnews said: honestly, when you repeat this kind of substance-free, attempts to simply assert basic nothingness - essentially, just chirping... all I have left for you is... Was this you watching tv back in the day? Lol.....seriously dude, get them eyes checked. I’m not the only one saying how utterly terrible Gudbranson was 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Drop Em said: The guys been in more than 30 fights in the NHL, and you bring up the two that closest (but still don't) defend your argument. But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of the truth. And the truth is that Dana Murzyn was one of the biggest speed bags of his era.....or any era for that matter. He valiantly stuck up for his teammates, but he took a beating doing it. Gudbranson has had many fights other than the ones you mentioned. Like PhillipBlunt said, he fought Matt Martin (one of the toughest guys in the league) in a good angry tilt, he fought Tom Wilson (also one of the toughest guys in the league) in another decent tilt, Michael Haley in a good fight, and I could go on. He pounds the guys he's expected to, and he does very well against the real tough guys. And he's definitely won a LOT more fights than what he's lost. Murzyn lost more fights in a year, than Gudbranson has in his career. And he's 6'5 not 6'7 like you suggest.....but hey, again those are just FACTS! With a brain transplant from donor Tanev, RealGud woulda' been a badassss-Weber(Sicamous version, not the Swiss one) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: This guy has always had a borderline obsession with Gudbranson and bashing him. yeah - there's always one or two or even gaggles of them in here - whether it's Sbisa, Edler, Gudbranson whomever - there are always the 'projectors', looking for a whipping boy - who have stopped paying attention long ago - act like players are frozen in time in the worst cherry-picked anecdote they can seize upon - and hope to brow-beat reasonable assessments by asserting their obsession with running their favorite targets down. It's all good - I find it a combination of ironic/sad/borderline entertaining - they're welcome to post their reactionary opinions - I don't tend to avoid taking a run in kind - perhaps I shouldn't bother. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, grandmaster said: Was this you watching tv back in the day? Lol.....seriously dude, get them eyes checked. I’m not the only one saying how utterly terrible Gudbranson was oh snap the burn. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, kanucks25 said: Unfortunately in this society these things play a factor, look up a study. Well, in hockey, I don't think anyone gives a (expletive deleted). What's the name of the study? "Hockey and Handsomeness: an in-depth analysis"? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, Drop Em said: The guys been in more than 30 fights in the NHL, and you bring up the two that closest (but still don't) defend your argument. But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of the truth. And the truth is that Dana Murzyn was one of the biggest speed bags of his era.....or any era for that matter. He valiantly stuck up for his teammates, but he took a beating doing it. Gudbranson has had many fights other than the ones you mentioned. Like PhillipBlunt said, he fought Matt Martin (one of the toughest guys in the league) in a good angry tilt, he fought Tom Wilson (also one of the toughest guys in the league) in another decent tilt, Michael Haley in a good fight, and I could go on. He pounds the guys he's expected to, and he does very well against the real tough guys. And he's definitely won a LOT more fights than what he's lost. Murzyn lost more fights in a year, than Gudbranson has in his career. And he's 6'5 not 6'7 like you suggest.....but hey, again those are just FACTS! And he fractured Travis Hamonic's skull, but that was probably a draw...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundernuts Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, grandmaster said: Was this you watching tv back in the day? Lol.....seriously dude, get them eyes checked. I’m not the only one saying how utterly terrible Gudbranson was He wasn't good for the Canucks. Perhaps he made changes and improved. Maybe he does better under a different system with a different style of play. Whatever the case, he had a decent year last year, and he goes to the Senators with a salary below his cap hit for only 1 year. I think it was a trade that serves both teams needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Well, in hockey, I don't think anyone gives a (expletive deleted). What's the name of the study? "Hockey and Handsomeness: an in-depth analysis"? He's handsome, charming, seems like a nice guy - easy to root for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Well, in hockey, I don't think anyone gives a (expletive deleted). What's the name of the study? "Hockey and Handsomeness: an in-depth analysis"? I was beside him at the bar once at Craft in the Olympic Village. He is pretty handsome. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 I always had a soft spot for Guddy... he took so much abuse from CDC peeps... he's a great guy and teammate and it's not like he didn't care when struggling here... but athletes do go through ups and downs and it wasn't his fault he scored a nice contract... I hope he can prolong his NHL career! 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 hour ago, oldnews said: The Ducks got a pick in return and moved $4 million of cap in this climate.... Clearly Gudbranson is not a 'bad' as gaggles of sandbaggers on these boards perceive. In spite of the $4 million cap hit, the stalled cap, the extremely tight cap moving market - they got a measure of positve value out of him in this deal...not neutral value, not negative value, relative to a $4 million cap hit - but moderately positive trade value. Something for the corsi-gazers in here to ponder. Good for Gud - and possibly a gud fit in Ottawa.....best of luck to him. I know that a lot of is including me wished we got more from Guddy - especially when it came to his reluctance to drop the gloves/passive “toughness”, but still can’t help but root for the guy. Thought we were getting a prime Boychuk but instead a Pyatt type but on defense. There’s still time for him to earn his cap hit - and hope he does on OTT, I for one will be looking forward to what he does for them. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: And he fractured Travis Hamonic's skull, but that was probably a draw...... Speaking of which? I'd like to sign Hamonic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: Speaking of which? I'd like to sign Hamonic... I think he'd be pushing for a move to Winnipeg, since he's from Manitoba, and wanted to be closer to family. He'd be a great add though, dented skull and all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: I think he'd be pushing for a move to Winnipeg Imagine that? (Said by a long displaced Peg boy) They could sure use him. Be a good fit? I'd rather him here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Canuck Surfer said: Imagine that? (Said by a long displaced Peg boy) They could sure use him. Be a good fit? I'd rather him here... Same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oldnews Posted October 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, thundernuts said: He wasn't good for the Canucks. Perhaps he made changes and improved. Maybe he does better under a different system with a different style of play. Whatever the case, he had a decent year last year, and he goes to the Senators with a salary below his cap hit for only 1 year. I think it was a trade that serves both teams needs. As Burke pointed out last week - (although not referring to a great example at the time - Matheson...). Defensive blueliners dont' tend to look so good on struggling, rethinging teams. Edler - under Tortorella - was like a rented mule and was pilloried endlessly on these boards - as if the guy sucked - and that was a team that went to the playoffs on bookends of that season.. Sbisa like Gud, was commonly referred to as the worst defenseman in the NHL. It's what fishbowlers do. Yet Sbisa was taken by Vegas - in spite of his 'horrible' contract - and then earned a top 4 role in competition with about half the #4 D in the NHL that were selected by Vegas.... What I really wanted to see of Gudbranson - was what he'd look like here once this team's trajectory started upwards. He has a lot of solid attributes - one of the challenges for guys his size is their ability to pivot, move laterally, deal with the smaller, speedier, skilled forwards around the league. At the same time many of those forwards borderline abandon pucks when it comes to engaging in a board battle with him - or attempting to finesse their way through a slim gap to the boards - Gudbranson is simply intimidating, and he wrecks people when they miscalculate. Gudbranson has excellent north to south speed, but for me he's like some of the other sizeable guys - Pedan, Myers, etc - who need to continue to work on their 360degree mobility... Anyhow, for a guy that a number of people can't believe anyone would want.... Not only Pittsburgh, but Anaheim, and now Ottawa, have all moved assets and accepted his cap hit in the process - actually evaluating him as a positive value relative to a $4 million cap hit - in not one of those deals was it necessary to add value to move Gud - in every single case he returned moderate positive value - not simply just as a marginal asset - but as one that came with a $4 million cap hit. Of course all the pro scouting staffs that evaluated him as such - a handful of teams at this point - are idiots and can't see what the armchair hackers here do. Edited October 8, 2020 by oldnews 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 If Gudbranson is worth a 5th than surely Loui would fetch a 3rd. I mean c'mon, he can score goals in bunches when the goalie is pulled. Adding Loui would make Ottawa a playoff team to be honest. I think Benning needs to pull the trigger here while the iron is hot... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 52 minutes ago, kanucks25 said: Unfortunately in this society these things play a factor, look up a study. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 How long is Ottawa planning on tanking for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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