kingofsurrey Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, canuck73_3 said: Should move to one of those other provinces then. Thanks for your intelligent input...... You never cease to amaze me with your contributions to the discussion of Covid in our country. Keep up the great work bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Just now, kingofsurrey said: Thanks for your intelligent input...... You never cease to amaze me with your contributions to the discussion of Covid in our country. Keep up the great work bud. As opposed to your endless whining about “how dumb BC is” please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, skategal said: Some might think that it's trying to find anything to pick holes in and whinge about. Facts are that we are doing so much better at the moment than some other provinces, we have a steady hand at the tiller and a plan to move forward. It may not be a plan that everyone agrees with, but right now the plan is providing a safe environment for people to live work and be educated. For sure schools right now are challenging, but the risks of not opening were too great. For many kids schools are a safe haven and that can't be ignored. I think everyone in BC wants the schools open. The issue is whether or not kids should be wearing masks and socially distancing..... Do teachers deserve to have hand sanitizer, rooms with working ventilation... or plastic barriers... PPE etc. People that try to over simplify the issue just deflect the real discussion that should be going forward. Edited October 13, 2020 by kingofsurrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, canuck73_3 said: As opposed to your endless whining about “how dumb BC is” please. Wow, you are on fire... Another post about nothing. Keep rocking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, kingofsurrey said: Wow, you are on fire... Another post about nothing. Keep rocking it. Pot meet kettle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) Very troubling... but not really surprising... An Oct. 5 report for the Canadian Federation of Nurses by the seniors advisor to Ontario’s SARS commission singled out B.C.’s NDP government for hiding too much information and putting the health of frontline nurses at risk. “The most problematic jurisdiction may be British Columbia. Its publicly disclosed data has been incomplete, inconsistent and on occasion, seemingly contradictory,” wrote Mario Possamai in A Time of Fear: How Canada Failed Our Health Care Workers and Mismanaged Covid‐19. Possamai’s report said B.C. stopped publishing the number of healthcare workers infected by the virus and did not explain why. Possamai cited theBreaker.news July exclusive on how B.C.’s government left healthcare workers scrambling to get personal protective equipment after the stockpiles of gloves, masks and other gear were allowed to dwindle to dangerously low levels before 2020. “This report is pretty damning,” said Jason Woywada, executive director of the B.C. Freedom of Information and Privacy Association. “This is exactly the time when more transparency is needed, for people to have faith and understand why and how decisions are being made. We don’t think that releasing this information is going to cause undue concern in the public, it’s going to help them have faith in the decisions https://thebreaker.news/business/nurses-fed-up/ Edited October 13, 2020 by kingofsurrey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 37 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: Very troubling... but not really surprising... An Oct. 5 report for the Canadian Federation of Nurses by the seniors advisor to Ontario’s SARS commission singled out B.C.’s NDP government for hiding too much information https://thebreaker.news/business/nurses-fed-up/ Not really surprising at all as you say kos, you do NOT want the full picture of this pandemic front and center during an election - at least not if you're NDP you don't. Also explains why the NDP are complicit with Health Authorities not to disclose exposures at schools all across the province in a timely manner. That would put several ridings in jeopardy for them I'm sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Vaccine trial put on hold: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/health/medical/johnson-johnson-pauses-coronavirus-vaccine-trials-after-unexplained-illness/ar-BB19Xqtc?ocid=msedgdhp Johnson & Johnson has temporarily paused its clinical trials for a potential novel coronavirus vaccine after an "unexplained illness" in a study participant, the company said Monday. I n a statement posted to its website, the company said the person's illness is being reviewed and evaluated by the independent Data Safety Monitoring Board along with the company's own physicians. Read more: Johnson & Johnson’s single-dose COVID-19 vaccine candidate begins phase 3 trial The company assured that such "serious adverse events" are not uncommon in clinical trials. It's also not clear if the illness came from the vaccine candidate itself or from a placebo. "Adverse events — illnesses, accidents, etc. — even those that are serious, are an expected part of any clinical study, especially large studies," the company's statement reads. The news comes just over a month after AstraZeneca halted its own trial for a vaccine being developed with Oxford University after a “potentially unexplained illness” in the United Kingdom. The trial resumed six days later. Johnson & Johnson's Phase 3 COVID-19 vaccine trials, which began in late September, are one of the largest in the world so far. The company is testing the shot in 60,000 volunteers in the U.S., South Africa, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Mexico and Peru The potential vaccine, which is being developed by the company's subsidiary Janssen in Belgium, is based on vector technology, the same used by AstraZeneca. An early-to-mid stage clinical trial found the vaccine candidate produced a strong immune response against SARS-CoV-2, though it was unclear if older patients saw a similar result. The findings were published in late September. No vaccine has completed Phase 3 trials yet anywhere in the world. New vaccines or drugs go through multiple stages of trials on humans, looking first to see if they are safe and cause no serious adverse reactions. Each phase adds more people, with usually fewer than a dozen to start, rising to tens of thousands by Phase 3. Johnson & Johnson has not yet applied for Canadian approval. AstraZeneca was the first company to do so, submitting its application its first scientific results on Oct. 2. Pfizer followed on Friday. In the last two months, Public Services and Procurement Canada has signed deals with the makers of six COVID-19 vaccines, including AstraZeneca, that will see Canada spend more than $1 billion to get guaranteed access to between 20 million and 76 million doses of each one if they are approved. The U.S., which has signed off on and championed Johnson & Johnson and other private companies' vaccine efforts, is pushing to have a worthy candidate approved before the end of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, gurn said: It's also not clear if the illness came from the vaccine candidate itself or from a placebo. This part got my attention. Should it not be easily known if the person was on the vaccine or on a placebo.? someone should know what they gave people, and other people should be observing the results, so as to avoid bias. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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High and Inside Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 On 10/11/2020 at 8:48 PM, kingofsurrey said: Would it be alot of work for government to release covid number each day of the week. Every other province does it that way. Seems like it would be easier for average BCers to understand daily transmission trends if it was once per day / 7 days a week. Every province in Canada except BC seems to agree with me.... It would make absolutely no difference. I actually don’t mind not having reports on the weekend. Plus it gives Bonnie Henry a little break. She deserves a little bit of time off although I doubt she takes a complete day off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Updated numbers for weekend: Friday>Saturday 170 new cases Saturday>Sunday 159 Sunday>Monday 119 Monday>Tuesday 101 TOTAL OVER 4 DAYS = 549 Total cases so far: 10,734 3,618 people currently being monitored 8,974 recovered 5 new deaths: 2 Fraser Health Region / 3 Vancouver Coastal Health 4 new care home outbreaks (missed some...had to answer the phone!) 1.39% positivity rate in testing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, debluvscanucks said: Updated numbers for weekend: Friday>Saturday 170 new cases Saturday>Sunday 159 Sunday>Monday 119 Monday>Tuesday 101 TOTAL OVER 4 DAYS = 549 Total cases so far: 10,734 3,618 people currently being monitored 8,974 recovered 5 new deaths: 2 Fraser Health Region / 3 Vancouver Coastal Health 4 new care home outbreaks (missed some...had to answer the phone!) 1.39% positivity rate in testing Just wait. This is the first holiday that coincided with far cooler temperatures and essentially say large groups of people shutting themselves inside for meals and drinking. 2 weeks from now... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-cristiano-ronaldo-tests-positive-22838994 Cristiano Ronaldo tests positive for coronavirus Juventus forward Cristiano Ronaldo is feeling well and hasn't been suffering with symptoms, but is now self-isolating and will play no part in Portugal's clash with Sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Man Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 This professor from France Jean-François Toussaint https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-François_Toussaint is saying that now Covid is 50-100 less deadly than it was back in March . https://www.lefigaro.fr/sciences/le-covid-est-il-50-a-100-fois-moins-letal-aujourd-hui-qu-en-mars-20201013 To me looks like even scientists and health care professionals don't completely understand this thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Silent Man said: This professor from France Jean-François Toussaint https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-François_Toussaint is saying that now Covid is 50-100 less deadly than it was back in March . https://www.lefigaro.fr/sciences/le-covid-est-il-50-a-100-fois-moins-letal-aujourd-hui-qu-en-mars-20201013 To me looks like even scientists and health care professionals don't completely understand this thing. They...don't That's how science works. Statements made change daily. new evidence occurs and processes change. Only a few people with select ideals are making absolute statements. That's how numbers get out of control 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 20 hours ago, gurn said: Anti Science BC Provinces & Territories with No Mandatory Mask Bylaws Active Cases Saskatchewan 34 PEI 0 Yukon 1 NWT 5 Nunavut 0 BC 1476 The rest of Canada has mask mandates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 45 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: Anti Science BC Provinces & Territories with No Mandatory Mask Bylaws Active Cases Saskatchewan 34 PEI 0 Yukon 1 NWT 5 Nunavut 0 BC 1476 The rest of Canada has mask mandates Remarkable. My Canada has an Alberta. Ontario. Quebec. The Maritimes? Where's their case numbers? What are the combined populations of those listed vs BC including population density? These are essential regardless of mandate and to leave them out of the conversation skews everything. Should we speak of how Surrey is the single highest active case holder in the province? We're doing fine as of now. Edited October 14, 2020 by Warhippy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, kingofsurrey said: Anti Science BC Provinces & Territories with No Mandatory Mask Bylaws Active Cases Saskatchewan 34 PEI 0 Yukon 1 NWT 5 Nunavut 0 BC 1476 The rest of Canada has mask mandates You’re really scraping the bottom of the barrel at this point bud. Maybe take a mental health break for a bit? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said: You’re really scraping the bottom of the barrel at this point bud. Maybe take a mental health break for a bit? Anti 'mask ? At least make a point when you post. It will keep the discussion moving forward ...... Do some research. It appears you have been taking far to many mental breaks the last few years..... Time for mental exercise / stretches for you. Edited October 14, 2020 by kingofsurrey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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