coastal.view Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, stawns said: they should still have done it, it just wasn't enough. It'll slow it down, obviously, which will gve our health care system a fighting chance. They didn't go far enough......anything non essential should have been shut down three days ago, at least. i have asked others this and no one bothers to attempt to answer it they just continue to repeat their position on this topic maybe you will answer? if covid19 is transferred by close contact due to it being carried by saliva droplets and these droplets also pose a risk when they land on surfaces (so we are told to maintain social distance and hand wash frequently) how does closing borders address this form of infection transfer? it must because "they" are more risky then "us"? or is there some other reason i have failed to notice Edited March 17, 2020 by coastal.view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bree2 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 52 minutes ago, bree2 said: but daycares stay open they say because of essential services, I guess like health care workers, ex: Nurses who need to work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey40 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, coastal.view said: i can be a bit clearer if that helps you you can also review my previous posts to ascertain more clearly what i was responding to i think you have summarized my posts in your mind a bit inaccurately how about we do this there are 3 reliable sources that we can turn to they have digested all other videos, expertise talking heads, everything they are reliable bc health authorities canadian health authorities WHO i am willing to discuss differences among these 3 sources the rest is in fact noise does that clear things up for you somewhat? my previous posting basically said we are not qualified to digest all the online videos, sources, etc to be able to determine which are reliable and accurate we have the 3 sources i have listed above that can and have done that work where those 3 differ is room for discussion in my view the least political of these sources does appear to be WHO where others differ from WHO must be driven by political pressures I agree with a lot of what you say coastal I think we just have different points of view in certain aspects, it’s all good! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey40 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, coastal.view said: i have asked others this and no one bothers to attempt to answer it they just continue to repeat their position on this topic maybe you will answer? if covid19 is transferred by close contact due to it being carried by saliva droplets and these droplets also pose a risk when they land on surfaces (so we are told to maintain social distance and hand wash frequently) how does closing borders address this form of infection transfer? it must because "they" are more risky then "us"? or is there some other reason i have failed to notice My point of view is if more people enter the country that are asymptomatic or carriers then you have a higher number of people spreading the infection. Makes sense to me but maybe I’m alone on that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Petey40 said: My point of view is if more people enter the country that are asymptomatic or carriers then you have a higher number of people spreading the infection. Makes sense to me but maybe I’m alone on that. why would more of "them" be that way? so you do think "they" are more of an issue then "us" yet we already have the virus here so i fail to see how "they" increase any risk when you maintain appropriate social distance and hand wash as recommended? people entering the country change nothing about the virus and how it is contracted Edited March 17, 2020 by coastal.view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey40 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, coastal.view said: why would more of "them" be that way? so you do think "they" are more of an issue then "us" yet we already have the virus here so i fail to see how they increase any risk when you maintain appropriate social distance and hand wash as recommended? people entering the country change nothing about the virus and how it is contracted Nah I’m not saying it has anything to do with them being more contagious or having a higher ability to spread. Just that the higher number of people with the virus increases the chances of the virus transmitting to more people. I'm just using basic math for this point of view. That and I don’t trust that people will actually self isolate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyM Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Petey40 said: Nah I’m not saying it has anything to do with them being more contagious or having a higher ability to spread. Just that the higher number of people with the virus increases the chances of the virus transmitting to more people. I'm just using basic math for this point of view. That and I don’t trust that people will actually self isolate. My line of thinking too. It is impossible to say a complete closure would have no effect at all. Of course it will have some percentage of an effect. So I have to believe we're weighing this risk against how many people will be butthurt that Americans are also barred entry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, Petey40 said: Nah I’m not saying it has anything to do with them being more contagious or having a higher ability to spread. Just that the higher number of people with the virus increases the chances of the virus transmitting to more people. I'm just using basic math for this point of view. That and I don’t trust that people will actually self isolate. that has nothing to do with "them" then it has to do with the behaviour of people and how they choose to protect themselves and others traffic from other places will decrease naturally just because everything is closing dow few will travel restricting travel when it is diminishing seems a bit of pointless venture just because of that is what is happening anyway to attempt base it on virus concerns does not elevate that issue at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 50 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: I work at a community college and as of tomorrow, classes are suspended for the rest of the week. One of the main parts of my job is facilitating Videoconference classes and meetings. All of yesterday and much of today has been spent setting up open ended VC classes, set to expire at the end of the semester. I've done about 10 courses so far, but I expect that number to at least triple by the end of the week and starting next week, students and instructors will be teaching and attending classes from home. It's going to be a bit of a hardship for those who don't own computers and webcams, but there is also a mobile app that we use, so hopefully, everyone will be able to finish their courses. I'm the only guy in IT here at the Prince Rupert campus, so isolation isn't really an issue for me. I've picked up some Nitrile gloves in case I have to actually work on someone's computer, but other than that it's pretty much keep on doing what I'm doing.... Thanks for doing that for everyone, Rupert. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey40 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, coastal.view said: that has nothing to do with "them" then it has to do with the behaviour of people and how they choose to protect themselves and others traffic from other places will decrease naturally just because everything is closing dow few will travel restricting travel when it is diminishing seems a bit of pointless venture just because of that is what is happening anyway to attempt base it on virus concerns does not elevate that issue at all All good Coastal we have different points of view and won’t agree. We can agree to disagree and that’ll be the end of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milk and honey Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, coastal.view said: why would more of "them" be that way? so you do think "they" are more of an issue then "us" yet we already have the virus here so i fail to see how "they" increase any risk when you maintain appropriate social distance and hand wash as recommended? people entering the country change nothing about the virus and how it is contracted Except there are more people in our country where we don't know who they were around and if they are sick or not unless we test them at boarders and airport. It makes sense that we shut the boarder. Not like we are the first country to do so either. Basically the whole world is on shut down mode. I'm not following the politics of this but why on earth would anyone want the boarders open? I totally get closing the boarders. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Thanks for doing that for everyone, Rupert. Just doing my job, Phil.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mayor MCcheese Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Why have no numbers been released yet for today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: Just doing my job, Phil.... That means more now than ever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Can someone give a TL;DR of what Trudeau talked about this morning? Haven't been able to catch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Brother in-law was at that dental conference that's had COVID confirmed. His Dr lives next door so is doing a test today. He has put himself in isolation. He is not symptomatic, the conference was 11 days ago. However we had our weekly family dinner at his house this Sunday, he cooked. I guess the wife and I should shut ourselves in. Thinking about bringing mum here as she lives in a granny suite attached to his home. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Kanukfanatic said: I never vote liberal but people crying about our leadership right now is useless. Less than useless.... See this is the problem. I don't think anybody is complaining or crying about the leadership as far as what political party they belong to but rather because they are doing something or lack thereof based on upsetting The Americans. I don't care if it was the conservatives NDP People's Party whoever doesn't matter at the end of the day if it's as serious as they say it is then the Border has has to close to nonessential travel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nuckin_futz Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, RUPERTKBD said: I think the far bigger risk is people already in country who refuse to follow the recommendations of health experts. We've already seen a few in this thread. If that number is representative of the public at large, there are bigger fish to fry than being outraged at not banning US citizens. A buddy of mine in the states said his gf's sister and her husband think this is all a big hoax. Just a conspiracy to limit freedoms. So they went to Vegas for his poker tournament. Then they're posting pics all over Facebook and Instagram of them tearing it up the clubs. Having a great time. Extolling people to live their lives and all this 'yolo' nonsense. Guess what? They are home now and sick as dogs. Guess some people have to learn the hard way. Hope they didn't infect others but it's hard to see how they couldn't have. Edited March 17, 2020 by nuckin_futz 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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