Coronavirus outbreak

[AbbyNux]

Just now, DeNiro said:

Oh boy.

 

This is all about keeping journalists from those countries out in case anyone is having a hard time connecting the dots.

We would be called racists for doing the same. 

[King Heffy]

5 minutes ago, AbbyNux said:

We would be called racists for doing the same. 

We've already done so for omicron and that didn't happen.

[Alflives]

15 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

Adult antivaxxers are cowards.  Refuse vaccines, because of freedumb, and even protest outside hospitals and are abusive to healthcare workers.  But they get sick from Covid, and they come running to hospitals for treatment.  Cowards, who behave like spoiled children.  No vaccine card; no treatment for Covid.   

[DeNiro]

11 minutes ago, AbbyNux said:

We would be called racists for doing the same. 

More to do with keeping the Chinese takeover quiet than being racist.

[DrJockitch]

On 1/4/2022 at 12:43 PM, AbbyNux said:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33592050/

Just to be clear here, I am not saying Ivermectin does or doesn't help.  What I am saying is that there is little to no evidence that it does and when quality studies have been done they have been inconclusive at best.  

The study you are quoting is not blinded, is tiny and of questionable scientific rigour.  It was also a pre-exposure prophylaxis study for health-care workers not a treatment regimen.  The one I mentioned that had potential to be a very good RCT was wrought with unbelievable data and plagiarism and was withdrawn.  

The jury is out on ivermectin and despite what someone above said it does have a history of helping with RNA viruses.  

You asked why we weren't using it and the answer is the studies are inconclusive to suggesting no benefit but there is enough there to do justify quality research and proper studies are being done.  Quoting one poor quality study that isn't even a treatment study but a prophylaxis study does not change that other than as one data point in the much larger story of ivermectin and COVID.

Edited January 6, 2022 by DrJockitch

[JM_]

51 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

Should be able to build that into the system easily enough.

Give vaccine choice the same legal weight as a DNR or medical advanced directive. We don't question whether or not someone is a Fox News viewer based on the content of their legal directions. We just follow it.

 

Being anti-vax is an informed choice. So lets triage our care fairly, and not have people suffer due to others choice .

 

Edited January 6, 2022 by JM_

[stawns]

2 hours ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

Some good news maybe.  Those suffering long-covid may have an explanation and hopefully a pathway for treatment. 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/05/long-covid-research-microclots?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

Could microclots help explain the mystery of long Covid?

Resia Pretorius

 

 

My lab has found significant microclot formation in long Covid patients. Unfortunately, these are missed in routine blood tests

f**k, I hope so.  I'd really like my life back, and I don't even have it nearly as bad as most

[coho8888]

2 hours ago, JM_ said:

 

not sure why you think there isn't any backing? all of the rationale is in the provincial health orders. E.g: https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/health/about-bc-s-health-care-system/office-of-the-provincial-health-officer/covid-19/covid-19-pho-order-gatherings-events.pdf

 

 

 

For a couple of posters on here,

 

I think it comes down to either:

 

1.  Just being a Troll

2. Lack of Common Sense and or Critical Thinking Skills

 

Either way its just Verbal Diarrhea that we should all ignore

 

 

 

 

 

[thedestroyerofworlds]

29 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Adult antivaxxers are cowards.  Refuse vaccines, because of freedumb, and even protest outside hospitals and are abusive to healthcare workers.  But they get sick from Covid, and they come running to hospitals for treatment.  Cowards, who behave like spoiled children.  No vaccine card; no treatment for Covid.   

Noone should ever think anti-vaxxers are reasonable.   Case in point:

[Gawdzukes]

13 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

One could wish, but I don't think this research will pan out in time for that.  

I don't know if I interpreted it right but in the interview with his dad I thought he said the 8 month mark is where they start feeling better and that he was symptom free/feeling better but had to wait on blood tests showing certain (normal) results before he could attempt any training or increased activity. 

 

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/brandon-sutters-ongoing-covid-battle-different-uncle-darryls/

 

So you never know but obviously health is #1 priority.

[Cromeslab]

[stawns]

24 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

Noone should ever think anti-vaxxers are reasonable.   Case in point:

wtf are those things?

[thedestroyerofworlds]

Just now, stawns said:

wtf are those things?

That's a rabbit hole that even I'm hesitant to go down.

[DrJockitch]

12 minutes ago, stawns said:

wtf are those things?

That is really bad Juvederm work.  Cheeks are overdone and it feminizes the face especially when all done to the front.  When putting filler in men it needs to be spread a little more along the cheeks or it feminizes.  I am guessing chin implants and a lot of dental work as well and lip filler.

Over-botoxed too especially the one in black, has lead to lionization of the face.

Funny thing is this is what I would use as an example what not to do but have met some that are injectors (and very wealthy ones at that) that look just like that (from both genders) because they are going for the "overdone" look.  It screams I have money to waste look at me.

[D.B Cooper]

23 minutes ago, stawns said:

wtf are those things?

I gotta find out.   They are human obviously. 

22 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

That's a rabbit hole that even I'm hesitant to go down.

Dammit.  I’m going in. 
 

 

 

edit:

They claim to have NO plastic surgery.  Hahahah

There was a picture of them younger.

They still looked like horrifying goblins, but not quiet as wild as now.  (Not now as  in dead and goblin looking)

 

 

Edited January 6, 2022 by D.B Cooper

[coho8888]

26 minutes ago, stawns said:

wtf are those things?

 

Auditioning for the next Batman movie?

 

 

 

 

[DrJockitch]

20 minutes ago, D.B Cooper said:

I gotta find out.   They are human obviously. 

Dammit.  I’m going in. 
 

 

 

edit:

They claim to have NO plastic surgery.  Hahahah

There was a picture of them younger.

They still looked like horrifying goblins, but not quiet as wild as now.  (Not now as  in dead and goblin looking)

 

 

Could have all been done with Botox and fillers.  So no surgery but lots of poorly done injections.

[AbbyNux]

1 hour ago, stawns said:

wtf are those things?

What people think every unvaccinated person looks like? 

[King Heffy]

45 minutes ago, DrJockitch said:

Could have all been done with Botox and fillers.  So no surgery but lots of poorly done injections.

So they're ok with injecting Botox, which is an abbreviation of Botulinum toxin, but a covid vaccine is too weird for them?  That's priceless.

Edited January 6, 2022 by King Heffy

[gizmo2337]

7 hours ago, JM_ said:

what? by what standards? metrics? 

The metrics is "covid19 health policy measures".  This guy is a world expert in airborne transmission. BCCDC is currently #2 worst offender behind the Netherlands.

You could say she did a good job and the death rates are low. You could also say the health policy is very poor and not based in science and probably would have saved more lives done differently. See whichever angle you want to see. The rest of the world regularly mocks our PHO decisions because the provinces head scientist doesn't listen to science.

Just the other day, she was asked about the test kits in the warehouse, calling it an "urban myth" they existed. The news reporter followed up, and indeed there is 1.3M test kits in a warehouse. So on top of bad policy we are also getting lies. And no, we didn't need to save the test kits, there's 14M more on the way this month. Plus, the kits also have an expiry date.

Even the WHO admits covid is airborne, so why do we have to take off our N95 mask in the hospital and replace it with a surgical mask. It's lunacy, it's obvious, and none of the trained peer scientists are supporting such policy. And that's just one policy... the list is pretty long.