Coronavirus outbreak

[gizmo2337]

So not a person here supports freedom of choice? I support the vaccine, but the red line was "forced" vaccination.

Justin Trudeau - " Well, we're not a country that makes vaccination mandatory" 

And lies from politicians that probably make the people regret their voting decision now. See for yourself, and then watch the peaceful trucker protest over the weekend. 
 

 

[zapperman]

What do you know - it turns out they knew it all along and the real story is that this a worldwide conspiracy to preserve peace and control population. What the Freedom Convoy and anti-vaxers don’t know is that the vaccine really is immunity from  a lethal poison Bill Gates has developed and Elon Musk will distribute in the atmosphere using his Falcon X. The tin-foil hatters were right. The extremists and rest of the covidiots that have claimed it’s a conspiracy the whole time are being exterminated in a global attempt to rid the planet from morons and otherwise lower IQ humans, restore peace while maintaining global population. Psst… don’t tell the anti-vaxers

[Playoff Beered]

22 minutes ago, TOMapleLaughs said:

I love a good ol' USA bash as much as anyone, but there's just no way they're not the world's leader atm.  The world is pretty much dependent on the security blanket they provide, and given how we've gotten a preview of how Chinese authoritarian rule would pan out here, yeah, I'd take 'murican chaos any day.

I'm not bashing the USA, just stating facts, as to them being the world leader atm all you offer is your assurance "there's just no way they're not the worlds leader atm"

That's it?...nothing more?

Edited January 29, 2022 by Playoff Beered

[spur1]

2 hours ago, Mustard Tiger said:

I get alot of people come here to troll, And all you responding right now always defend the correct side. I'm literally only saying, Until the fully vax stop spreading covid all together, I don't agree with the finger pointing that is because people are unvaxxed, We are in this pandemic. It would still be here even if 100%, Just a lesser extent. To me that's not enough to slander unvaxxed people at this point. Unless they are a vocal freedumb fighter about it

Lol…you really need to go back about 500 pages and brush up on your math. 

[Playoff Beered]

11 minutes ago, zapperman said:

What do you know - it turns out they knew it all along and the real story is that this a worldwide conspiracy to preserve peace and control population. What the Freedom Convoy and anti-vaxers don’t know is that the vaccine really is immunity from  a lethal poison Bill Gates has developed and Elon Musk will distribute in the atmosphere using his Falcon X. The tin-foil hatters were right. The extremists and rest of the covidiots that have claimed it’s a conspiracy the whole time are being exterminated in a global attempt to rid the planet from morons and otherwise lower IQ humans, restore peace while maintaining global population. Psst… don’t tell the anti-vaxers

 

[stawns]

21 minutes ago, gizmo2337 said:

So not a person here supports freedom of choice? I support the vaccine, but the red line was "forced" vaccination.

Justin Trudeau - " Well, we're not a country that makes vaccination mandatory" 

And lies from politicians that probably make the people regret their voting decision now. See for yourself, and then watch the peaceful trucker protest over the weekend. 
 

 

Who's been forced to get vaccinated?

[King Heffy]

24 minutes ago, gizmo2337 said:

So not a person here supports freedom of choice? I support the vaccine, but the red line was "forced" vaccination.

Justin Trudeau - " Well, we're not a country that makes vaccination mandatory" 

And lies from politicians that probably make the people regret their voting decision now. See for yourself, and then watch the peaceful trucker protest over the weekend. 
 

 

Freedom of choice does not mean freedom from consequences.

[gizmo2337]

19 minutes ago, stawns said:

Who's been forced to get vaccinated?

 

16 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

Freedom of choice does not mean freedom from consequences.

Freedom of choice should have always been in this country, or we no longer live in a democracy. Some sectors have been vaccine mandated, that's not a choice. Federal employees, truckers, next  college students and teachers.

Our leaders consider getting vaccinated a civic duty. I do not. That kind of decision is NOT leadership, it should be a personal choice (that is encouraged not mandated). The red line was the vax passport and having to choose your job or a jab. The jab would make no difference even if you jabbed the rest of the 8%. People in Montreal can't even go grocery shopping without escort now. What kind of nonsense is this. The jab doesn't prevent transmission, so the passport is illogical. There's literally no science reason for it. There's going to be more vax than unvaxed in the hospital in a couple weeks.
Call my BS, here's the most vaccinated country in the world with 4 shots:

Go ask yourself if the other 90% took the jab for health or fear of mandates. You might be surprised how many did this out of fear.

[stawns]

4 minutes ago, gizmo2337 said:

 

Freedom of choice should have always been in this country, or we no longer live in a democracy. Some sectors have been vaccine mandated, that's not a choice. Federal employees, truckers, next  college students and teachers.

Our leaders consider getting vaccinated a civic duty. I do not. That kind of decision is NOT leadership, it should be a personal choice (that is encouraged not mandated). The red line was the vax passport and having to choose your job or a jab. The jab would make no difference even if you jabbed the rest of the 8%. People in Montreal can't even go grocery shopping without escort now. What kind of nonsense is this. The jab doesn't prevent transmission, so the passport is illogical. There's literally no science reason for it. There's going to be more vax than unvaxed in the hospital in a couple weeks.
Call my BS, here's the most vaccinated country in the world with 4 shots:

Go ask yourself if the other 90% took the jab for health or fear of mandates. You might be surprised how many did this out of fear.

What the f*** are you talking about?  Vaccination is a choice.  What you don't like is the consequences of that choice

[King Heffy]

3 minutes ago, gizmo2337 said:

 

Freedom of choice should have always been in this country, or we no longer live in a democracy. Some sectors have been vaccine mandated, that's not a choice. Federal employees, truckers, next  college students and teachers.

Our leaders consider getting vaccinated a civic duty. I do not. That kind of decision is NOT leadership, it should be a personal choice (that is encouraged not mandated). The red line was the vax passport and having to choose your job or a jab. The jab would make no difference even if you jabbed the rest of the 8%. People in Montreal can't even go grocery shopping without escort now. What kind of nonsense is this. The jab doesn't prevent transmission, so the passport is illogical. There's literally no science reason for it. There's going to be more vax than unvaxed in the hospital in a couple weeks.
Call my BS, here's the most vaccinated country in the world with 4 shots:

Go ask yourself if the other 90% took the jab for health or fear of mandates. You might be surprised how many did this out of fear.

Freedom of choice has never left.  Since these idiots are not qualified to perform their job, they can find another more suited to them.  Literally every single job has requirements to remain eligible for employment.  Everywhere is hiring right now; it is not our fault they are too stupid to perform their current jobs.  The truckers should be applying at Burger King instead of throwing their tantrum, although I really don't want any of these biohazards anywhere near my food.  Quebec has the right idea, although I wouldn't even give them the escort; let them do curbside pickup and stop letting these idiots into the stores.  Bottom line is the unvaccinated are simply not welcomed in society by the vast majority of us who don't want them infesting places we go.  Democracy has spoken quite loudly via something called an election where the anti-mandate party was completely rejected by all but a few far-right pieces of trash who want to destroy this country.

 

Of course there's going to be slightly more vax than unvaxxed; only 8% of Canadians are still this stupid.

[thedestroyerofworlds]

For the slow ones in here.

 

OMICRON IS A DIFFERENT VARIANT.  THE VACCINES WORKED FINE WITH ALPHA AND DELTA.  THE EFFICACY FOR THE VACCINE THAT WAS DEVELOPED IN 2020 IS LOWER FOR OMICRON.  IT STILL PROVIDES REDUCED RISK OF SERIOUS ILLNESS.  ILLNESS AND INFECTION ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

[gizmo2337]

28 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

Freedom of choice has never left.  Since these idiots are not qualified to perform their job, they can find another more suited to them.  Literally every single job has requirements to remain eligible for employment.  Everywhere is hiring right now; it is not our fault they are too stupid to perform their current jobs.  The truckers should be applying at Burger King instead of throwing their tantrum, although I really don't want any of these biohazards anywhere near my food.  Quebec has the right idea, although I wouldn't even give them the escort; let them do curbside pickup and stop letting these idiots into the stores.  Bottom line is the unvaccinated are simply not welcomed in society by the vast majority of us who don't want them infesting places we go.  Democracy has spoken quite loudly via something called an election where the anti-mandate party was completely rejected by all but a few far-right pieces of trash who want to destroy this country.

 

Of course there's going to be slightly more vax than unvaxxed; only 8% of Canadians are still this stupid.

You are jumping up and down. These protesters are just a few hundred. No problem.

[JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo]

Remember that Washington State Trooper who went off on an epic rant on his radio because he wouldn't get vaccinated so instead he quit his job of 22 years, all while filming himself? Yeah, well....

 

 

[JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo]

6 hours ago, fanfor42 said:

Love the truckers.  

 

I have heard that truckers from the states have joined en masse and there are over 100,000 trucks in this movement. Is also being copied in Australia and Europe and elsewhere.

 

They are making a point as people that we need to have our freedoms back.  They are vaccinated, double vaccinated, boosted, unvaccinated, black, white, brown yellow, gay, trans everyone.  They have received 7M in funding through go fund me. It's not a small group of supporters. They are people standing up for human rights and saying hey governments let's start to turn the tap off on  shutting down human rights. 

 

 

Love it. My kids are all over this and I have started to pay attention as they show me clips and videos.

 

Anyone who doesn't support this is cheering for the wrong team. 

 

The media is hacking on them but we don't need to blindly listen.  Go convoy lol. People standing up for your human rights is a good thing. Happened in the 60's happened in China in the 80's it's always important when this many people speak out against the narrative.  Don't be afraid - listen. Doesn't hurt you to listen.

 

Young people love this and they are the future. If you don't agree fine.  But it's not hurting society to have 100,000 truckers make a point for everyone's benefit.

 

 

 

 

Lol

https://www.snopes.com/articles/392281/freedom-convoy-size-exaggerated/

[Alflives]

4 hours ago, gizmo2337 said:

 

Freedom of choice should have always been in this country, or we no longer live in a democracy. Some sectors have been vaccine mandated, that's not a choice. Federal employees, truckers, next  college students and teachers.

Our leaders consider getting vaccinated a civic duty. I do not. That kind of decision is NOT leadership, it should be a personal choice (that is encouraged not mandated). The red line was the vax passport and having to choose your job or a jab. The jab would make no difference even if you jabbed the rest of the 8%. People in Montreal can't even go grocery shopping without escort now. What kind of nonsense is this. The jab doesn't prevent transmission, so the passport is illogical. There's literally no science reason for it. There's going to be more vax than unvaxed in the hospital in a couple weeks.
Call my BS, here's the most vaccinated country in the world with 4 shots:

Go ask yourself if the other 90% took the jab for health or fear of mandates. You might be surprised how many did this out of fear.

Antivaxxer.

[Russ]

6 hours ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

For the slow ones in here.

 

OMICRON IS A DIFFERENT VARIANT.  THE VACCINES WORKED FINE WITH ALPHA AND DELTA.  THE EFFICACY FOR THE VACCINE THAT WAS DEVELOPED IN 2020 IS LOWER FOR OMICRON.  IT STILL PROVIDES REDUCED RISK OF SERIOUS ILLNESS.  ILLNESS AND INFECTION ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

 

And this is why I am in no rush to get my booster when they keep texting me about it.  Its the same damn formula as the original one last I read about a month ago when omincron was ramping up.  Worked fine for alpha and delta, did its job in keeping down hospitalizations but its shown its not effecting omicron much so my interest in getting the same shot again thats clearly outdated at this point is not top of my priority list.  I know they have talked about how they were trying to change the formula to deal with omicron but haven't heard if its completed and distributed yet.

[Hamhuis Hip Check]

32 minutes ago, Russ said:

 

And this is why I am in no rush to get my booster when they keep texting me about it.  Its the same damn formula as the original one last I read about a month ago when omincron was ramping up.  Worked fine for alpha and delta, did its job in keeping down hospitalizations but its shown its not effecting omicron much so my interest in getting the same shot again thats clearly outdated at this point is not top of my priority list.  I know they have talked about how they were trying to change the formula to deal with omicron but haven't heard if its completed and distributed yet.

Took 10 seconds to find. I look forward to seeing how you move the goalposts now

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/10/covid-vaccine-pfizer-ceo-says-omicron-vaccine-will-be-ready-in-march.html

[Russ]

9 minutes ago, Hamhuis Hip Check said:

Took 10 seconds to find. I look forward to seeing how you move the goalposts now

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/10/covid-vaccine-pfizer-ceo-says-omicron-vaccine-will-be-ready-in-march.html

What goal post am I moving? I'm waiting for one that's going to target the current variant as opposed to the variants that are less and less common. Sorry I didn't look up the exact date of when it's coming to Canada, they say ready for March but might not get here until April, we've been behind USA for releases this far. 

 

I got my 2 shots, I'm willing to get a booster, I just don't think getting an outdated booster at this point is needed if they feel they have one coming out in a few months that's more effective against the modern variant. 

Edited January 29, 2022 by Russ

[Alflives]

48 minutes ago, Russ said:

 

And this is why I am in no rush to get my booster when they keep texting me about it.  Its the same damn formula as the original one last I read about a month ago when omincron was ramping up.  Worked fine for alpha and delta, did its job in keeping down hospitalizations but its shown its not effecting omicron much so my interest in getting the same shot again thats clearly outdated at this point is not top of my priority list.  I know they have talked about how they were trying to change the formula to deal with omicron but haven't heard if its completed and distributed yet.

This data includes Omicron wave.  

[Russ]

18 minutes ago, Alflives said:

This data includes Omicron wave.  

As a healthy 32 year old with 2 shots I feel pretty good about those numbers. Those numbers will also include much older people with only 2 shots and others who may not be as healthy.  And like I said above, when the Pfizer releases the omicron specific one this spring and it becomes available I will get my booster, I just don't think with that updated one being available sooner that getting the old booster is worth it, rather wait 2 months and try to get the new one rather than get today, wait 6 months and be 4 months behind the updated one.

 

Whenever I see Dix post his charts, my age group with 2 shots, our numbers are almost nothing. Seems to tick up in the 50 year olds with 2 shots. 

 

I know this chart is a few weeks old now but my risk is pretty darn low with my 2 shots.

 

Edited January 29, 2022 by Russ