CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/31-thoughts-eichel-injury-latest-bad-news-sabres-cursed-year/ Elliotte Friedman's 31 thoughts has some Canucks in the article. I'd be interested to see what the market sees in value of Motte, Schmidt, and Hamonic. First inclination is nah I wouldn't dare trade the 3 right now, but its not hurt to explore what teams would be willing to shell out for these guys. Tampa Bay last year traded 1st round picks to acquire Barclay Goodrow and Blake Coleman who are considered bottom six players and with friendly deals. Not saying Motte gets that but what is a team willing to offer? Certainly worth exploring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AV. Posted March 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2021 If a team offers a 2nd (or more) for Motte, you take it. By management's own admission that the team is 2 years away, you also take any offer that involves good youth/picks for Schmidt, since he'll be in his early 30s by then. Any round of pick for Hamonic the team should probably take as well. The Canucks are being handed lifelines so they better make use of them. Then again, this team isn't ran by the smartest guys. 1 2 3 6 3 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Heffy Posted March 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2021 I wouldn't trade Motte for anything less than a 2nd. 3 2 5 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Junkyard Dog Posted March 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2021 I see Motte as a long-term fit in our bottom 6. Schmidt has played really well the last 2-3 weeks. Hamonic has improved too. Only one I would really move is Hamonic out of those 3 and that’s only if we can’t re-sign him. Unless of course people are willing to overpay. 4 3 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 The only one id keep is Hamonic. The guy has been our most solid d since he got back. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Junkyard Dog Posted March 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2021 Just now, King Heffy said: I wouldn't trade Motte for anything less than a 2nd. 3 minutes ago, Alain Vigneault said: If a team offers a 2nd (or more) for Motte, you take it. By management's own admission that the team is 2 years away, you also take any offer that involves good youth/picks for Schmidt, since he'll be in his early 30s by then. Any round of pick for Hamonic the team should probably take as well. The Canucks are being handed lifelines so they better make use of them. Then again, this team isn't ran by the smartest guys. IMO even then I don’t feel a late 2nd would be enough. Not saying he’s worth a 1st but many teams would kill to draft a Motte even as a late 2nd round pick. IMO it would have to be a 2nd and another pick or prospect. He’s at a team friendly cap hit as is worth much more than what he’s being paid. 5 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 (edited) Motte's the MVP of the bottom-6 and it isn't particularly close IMO (HM should be MacEwen). Virtanen and Roussel take lazy penalties and aren't scoring. Gaudette's numbers are down, Sutter doesn't really fit on his current line... Beagle is a placeholder since no one will take him... MacEwen/ Hawryluk/ Michaelis are still non-factors (no consistent runs of effectiveness)... Baertschi/ Loui-- thanks for showing up at the stadium. Motte's smart, hustles and is showing emerging offensive touch. Agreed that if we are to move Motte, then nothing less than a 2nd. Also hope they strike a wise balance and trade any of Benn/ Sutter/ Pearson/ Hamonic/ Edler if they see that they may want to leave. No more letting assets walk. Edited March 10, 2021 by Phil_314 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Patel Bure Posted March 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2021 If the Canucks are far out of playoff contention at the deadline, the only guys I move are Pearson, Edler, Sutter, and one of Hamonic or Benn. Motte and Schmidt stay. 1 1 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: IMO even then I don’t feel a late 2nd would be enough. Not saying he’s worth a 1st but many teams would kill to draft a Motte even as a late 2nd round pick. IMO it would have to be a 2nd and another pick or prospect. He’s at a team friendly cap hit as is worth much more than what he’s being paid. I agree, but I wouldn't even listen if the offer was less. He's the heart and soul of our bottom 6. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Provost Posted March 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2021 Ummm trading Motte would mean that we lose one of our only efficient contracts for next season. How does that help us exactly? To replace Mote with a similar player is going to cost us more than what we are paying Motte. The only way I trade him is if a cap dump for next year goes along, like Roussel.... or if a team gives an early 2nd or better I guess, but again the odds of getting better than Motte with the 35th pick is fairly low so why do it? 1 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 (edited) Straight up, our bottom six is a lot less impressive without Motte in it. Is it really worth flipping him for a second if we wanna compete next season? I don't think so. Yeah, you can sign guys via free agency but having a known quantity who's a heart and soul guy on the cheap vs signing a guy and hoping he works out are two different things. This is particularly true imo if we're getting the pick from someone with playoff aspirations, it ain't likely to be a high to middle second and that matters. I'd prefer to retain Hamonic if he can maintain his level of play for the rest of the season, he's an easy solution to who partners with Hughes and all he'd cost is money as a short-term stopgap. Much cheaper than trying to acquire an RD from someone else, hoping he'd mesh with Quinn. Schmidt's improved as time goes on, I say he stays. Our D looks to finally have some quality depth. Pearson, Benn, and Sutter (if they decide they aren't going to retain him) are fair game though. Edited March 10, 2021 by Coconuts 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Just now, King Heffy said: I agree, but I wouldn't even listen if the offer was less. He's the heart and soul of our bottom 6. If it’s a early 2nd(32-40) I would maybe do that since we’ve struck gold in that area but when you get to the 50-64(will it end at 64 next year?) it isn’t as good of a 2nd. I don’t think many playoff teams will have other teams early 2nd round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chickenspear Posted March 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2021 Motte: 1st or GFY Schmidt: 1st + '22 3rd or GFY Hamonic:1st, and you're taking Loui as well (or GFY) 2 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Just now, Chickenspear said: Motte: 1st or GFY Schmidt: 1st + '22 3rd or GFY Hamonic:1st, and you're taking Loui as well (or GFY) I like good fried yams. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BarnBurner Posted March 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2021 23 minutes ago, Alain Vigneault said: If a team offers a 2nd (or more) for Motte, you take it. By management's own admission that the team is 2 years away, you also take any offer that involves good youth/picks for Schmidt, since he'll be in his early 30s by then. Any round of pick for Hamonic the team should probably take as well. The Canucks are being handed lifelines so they better make use of them. Then again, this team isn't ran by the smartest guys. No you don't. You keep Motte. That's found GOLD! 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV. Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Straight up, our bottom six is a lot less impressive without Motte in it. Is it really worth flipping him for a second if we wanna compete next season? I don't think so. Yeah, you can sign guys via free agency but having a known quantity who's a heart and soul guy on the cheap vs signing a guy and hoping he works out are two different things. I'd prefer to retain Hamonic if he can maintain his level of play for the rest of the season, he's an easy solution to who partners with Hughes and all he'd cost is money as a short-term stopgap. Much cheaper than trying to acquire an RD from someone else, hoping he'd mesh with Quinn. Schmidt's improved as time goes on, I say he stays. Our D looks to finally have some quality depth. Pearson, Benn, and Sutter (if they decide they aren't going to retain him) are fair game though. We're 2 years away, according to the GM. Why not try to capitalize on some of these players if that's the truth? After all, many on this board claim the GM is an alleged draft expert, so with all these picks he could just draft the next Motte or Schmidt or Hamonic if he wanted to (if those fans are to be believed). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 (edited) Wish teams would instead call about Sutter, Eriksson, Myers, Beagle , Holtby or Roussel ......... Edited March 10, 2021 by kingofsurrey 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnBurner Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 27 minutes ago, King Heffy said: I wouldn't trade Motte for anything less than a 2nd. Why would you even consider trading him? A second is a completely unknown commodity. Not a sharp move. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Devron Posted March 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2021 I wouldn’t move any of those guys. So we can take a chance on a pick. I like our drafting record but no thanks. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Alain Vigneault said: We're 2 years away, according to the GM. Why not try to capitalize on some of these players if that's the truth? After all, many on this board claim the GM is an alleged draft expert, so with all these picks he could just draft the next Motte or Schmidt or Hamonic if he wanted to (if those fans are to be believed). Even if we are, that puts Motte at 28 which should be a prime age for him, it's not as if he won't still be useful during now and then Nothing wrong with capitalizing on assets, but there are decisions to be made regarding who's worth keeping and I feel the players I mentioned are The problem with drafting is also the development time required for prospects to transition into players who even remotely resemble the guys we've traded away You can have the best scouting crew in the league but a lottery ticket is still a lottery ticket Stocking the cupboards while trying to compete is about balance, not shipping everyone out the moment the playoffs appear to be in doubt Edited March 10, 2021 by Coconuts 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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