Canucks requiring covid vaccination for staff and fans

[JM_]

1 hour ago, cuporbust said:

Is that data true ? If it is , then people need to have a little understanding for why someone is apprehensive 

serious issues are very rare: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

[nuck-lifer]

25 minutes ago, Alflives said:

The science is clear.  This pandemic is being driven (now) by the unvaccinated.  Why some people still refuse to get vaccinated is beyond my understanding.  It’s better fir them, their families and friends, and their community.  Refusing vaccination now has to be one of the most selfishly ignorant things a person can do.  

You try to look at both sides , but besides people that are at a health risk for vaccinations, the other reasons (human rights, political, religion etc) don't outweigh the risks for everyone else by a country mile.

 

[Kootenay Gold]

21 minutes ago, Alflives said:

You’re entitled to you’re opinion, but it’s 100% wrong.  We went through this earlier.  Go back and read about our 

Charter, and the limitations on rights.  

That remains to be seen Alf. Talking about it in CDC and what the Supreme Court might have to say, could be two different things. I fully expect somebody to challenge it though. Even the legal scholars are divided on the legality of the government enforcing people to be vaccinated.

 

I am fully vaccinated and so are my kids so it is not a huge concern to me one way or the other.

[Kurgom]

Who else is looking to get some cheap tickets off anti-vax nuts? Should be a year of reasonable ticket prices, first one in a while!

[Alflives]

3 minutes ago, Kootenay Gold said:

That remains to be seen Alf. Talking about it in CDC and what the Supreme Court might have to say, could be two different things. I fully expect somebody to challenge it though. Even the legal scholars are divided on the legality of the government enforcing people to be vaccinated.

 

I am fully vaccinated and so are my kids so it is not a huge concern to me one way or the other.

Who is being forced to be vaccinated?  It’s a choice with consequences.  

[Kurgom]

Not being vaccinated is not a protected group. The charter does not apply. The government can limit unvaccinated individuals however they want.

Edited August 24, 2021 by Kurgom

[BCNeil]

12 minutes ago, Kurgom said:

Who else is looking to get some cheap tickets off anti-vax nuts? Should be a year of reasonable ticket prices, first one in a while!

Me.  But I think the team will allow them refunds.  But then they lose their seats for the future.  I don't think this year is going to be cheap though

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

[Kurgom]

3 minutes ago, BCNeil said:

Me.  But I think the team will allow them refunds.  But then they lose their seats for the future.  I don't think this year is going to be cheap though

I think the regulations and general fear of crowds will mix for decently cheap tickets. The entire city could be starved for hockey and cause ticket prices to sky rocket though who knows.

[khay]

36 minutes ago, Kurgom said:

Who else is looking to get some cheap tickets off anti-vax nuts? Should be a year of reasonable ticket prices, first one in a while!

Not sure about that. 

 

84.412% of 12+ have received at least one dose.

75.883% of 12+ have received both doses.

 

Fortunately, we don't have that many anti-vax nuts in BC.

 

I guess the question is, what proportion of the season tickets is held by 15% that didn't receive vaccine. 

 

My guess is low.

[VegasCanuck]

5 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said:

cancer drugs have an even lower success rate. 

 

I guess its voodoo and crystals for you then if that happens. 

Protective herbs

[Dazzle]

3 hours ago, 6YPE said:

Properly educated??.. how??... are you an immunologist?? Are you a specialist in vaccines?? My best friend's wife works in healthcare. She got the poke in January because she was pressured into it by her work and fellow employees just like you. She will never work again, in and out of hospital since then and no help from the vax company, the government or her work... too bad so sad huh??.

Works, but not will never work again?

 

She joined the wrong industry if she thinks vaccines are infringing on her rights.

[VegasCanuck]

4 hours ago, 6YPE said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can say the same thing about the vax Heffy. 

 

So it doesnt stop you from getting it, it doesnt stop you from transmitting it, it has a 99% survival rate.... why are you getting it again??? ... Oh, compliance. 

 

And if you don't know why I picked Israel for the links (clearly you must have no clue whats going on), they are the highest vaccinated country on the planet... figure it our boys, we are 20 months in..... 

 

Just like Justin Trudeau your great leader said the other day... "We aren't having unvaccinated people sitting on trains or planes next to vaccinated getting them sick"....If you're vaccinated  how does this even make sense???...

 

Anyways, do your thing, be safe in however you want to do it and let people make their own health decisions. 

 

 

https://news.wjct.org/post/highly-vaccinated-israel-seeing-dramatic-surge-new-covid-cases-heres-why

 

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/grim-warning-israel-vaccination-blunts-does-not-defeat-delta

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/10/breakthrough-covid-cases-why-fully-vaccinated-people-can-get-covid.html

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/israels-covid-19-infection-rate-is-rising-despite-vaccine-uptake-2021-8?op=1

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delta-variant-pfizer-covid-vaccine-39percent-effective-in-israel-prevents-severe-illness.html

 

https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/06/30/covid-19-israel-full-vaccinated.html

Does not stop you from getting it, but does dramatically reduce symptoms.

 

Survival rate is not 99%+, I personally know 13 people who have died, including a number below 50. I also know a number who have long term conditions they are dealing with, up to and including brain damage.

 

Go get vaccinated, or don't and live in a closet and post hate messages on boards and Facebook.

 

I'm just happy that the province finally did what they have been needing to do.

[kloubek]

13 hours ago, nuck-lifer said:

 

 

Well, that kinda says it all, doesn't it?

 

Here's the thing. If the vast majority of public opinion is to get vaccinated (and it is), then what argument is there for us to have to be surrounded with people who CHOOSE to be far more infectious. An argument doesn't exist. They'll say stupid stuff like "What do you care if you're vaccinated?" or "Just continue wearing that mask you kept saying was a necessity and you'll be fine".  But really, they're fighting with a limp sword, because there are obvious answers to those questions. Answers they will inevitably refuse to listen to.

 

It's like others choosing to drive drunk, against the vast majority of public wishes. Our government rightfully decided to protect the public from needlessly dying as much as possible. Pretty logical. You don't hear a lot of alcoholics complaining about their "rights" because they realize they would sound like idiots. Those going on about their "rights" during Covid just aren't intelligent enough to appreciate that they don't have a defendable position, and that nobody else wants to hear them.

 

So if that means you can't dine in or go to events, that's your choice. Quite frankly, you gave up your right to those things by infringing on everyone else's.

 

Bed. Lay.

Edited August 24, 2021 by kloubek

[Edge_Case]

1 hour ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

 

Glad to see it!  Might consider buying a game ticket this season .... $120 ... not to have some anti-vaxx, anti-science conspiracy theorist sitting next to me ... priceless.

 

good business move Aqua ( just wish you’d a had the cojones to do the right thing without the provincial mandate ... but good on ya nonetheless!

[Nucksownyou]

Are our players vaccinated yet?

[Roberts]

anyone know when tickets go on sale?

[crunch55]

4 hours ago, nuck-lifer said:

You try to look at both sides , but besides people that are at a health risk for vaccinations, the other reasons (human rights, political, religion etc) don't outweigh the risks for everyone else by a country mile.

 

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210803/Unvaccinated-and-vaccinated-have-similar-viral-load-in-communities-high-in-SARS-CoV-2-delta.aspx

[Dazzle]

19 minutes ago, crunch55 said:

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210803/Unvaccinated-and-vaccinated-have-similar-viral-load-in-communities-high-in-SARS-CoV-2-delta.aspx

I don't understand why you have to make vaccination seem like it's some new concept. The reason you get vaccinated (including COVID) is to prepare the body for future viral attacks. Stuff like smallpox used to be rampant, but vaccines changed that. There's also stuff like polio shots, and measles.

 

It's laughable how the so-called anti-covid crowd have no clue about what they're spewing.

[captainhorvat]

 

haha anti vaxxers…