2021 Training Camp Thread

[Cromeslab]

This team has moved on from Kole Lind

[King Heffy]

8 minutes ago, RakuRaku said:

Agreed!! Let's not forget Gadj isn't waiver exempt too... And Lockwood is making a strong case over MacEwen too!! 

I was grateful Seattle didn't take Gadj.  Lind is a lot easier to replace.

[theo5789]

1 hour ago, Coconuts said:

I'd be surprised if we did 

 

We've made additions up front since the expansion draft 

I might not be too surprised. We have tried grooming him to be a center very recently and could use a bit of center depth.

 

Currently

Hoglander - Petey - Boeser

Pearson - Horvat - Chaisson/MacEwen?

Podkolzin - Miller - Garland

Di Guiseppe - Dickinson - Lockwood?

Highmore/Gadjovich?

 

MacEwen hasn't impressed me enough for a long term look in the top 6. Chaisson doesn't have longer term value. Di Giuseppe is unlikely a longer term fixture. Motte and Sutter are out to start the season. So I can see some room to fit him back in as he would have some familiarity with our systems and should be able to slide in more quickly.

[Elias Pettersson]

Kole Lind can play 4C.  I think Seattle puts him on waivers.  He would be a better option than Petan or Highmore at 4C.

[Coconuts]

4 minutes ago, theo5789 said:

I might not be too surprised. We have tried grooming him to be a center very recently and could use a bit of center depth.

 

Currently

Hoglander - Petey - Boeser

Pearson - Horvat - Chaisson/MacEwen?

Podkolzin - Miller - Garland

Di Guiseppe - Dickinson - Lockwood?

Highmore/Gadjovich?

 

MacEwen hasn't impressed me enough for a long term look in the top 6. Chaisson doesn't have longer term value. Di Giuseppe is unlikely a longer term fixture. Motte and Sutter are out to start the season. So I can see some room to fit him back in as he would have some familiarity with our systems and should be able to slide in more quickly.

Guess we'll see

 

It'd be entertaining if we did, I'll say that much 

[CanucksJay]

52 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

Kole Lind can play 4C.  I think Seattle puts him on waivers.  He would be a better option than Petan or Highmore at 4C.

I like the thought but would he really do better in a defensive role? 

Young guys have trouble with faceoffs and defensive coverage. 

It would be great if he was a good fit. 

A line of Gadj Lind Lockwood sounds exciting but I can picture a lot of goals scored against. 

[Elias Pettersson]

32 minutes ago, CanucksJay said:

I like the thought but would he really do better in a defensive role? 

Young guys have trouble with faceoffs and defensive coverage. 

It would be great if he was a good fit. 

A line of Gadj Lind Lockwood sounds exciting but I can picture a lot of goals scored against. 

He played centre in Utica and was taking draws.  He's not Bo Horvat or even Jay Beagle, but I am sure he would be an upgrade on little Petan and Highmore isn't even a centre and is much more effective on the wing.  Maybe there is a better option on the waiver wire or maybe Benning needs to trade a winger for a 4C.  Honestly, I would explore a Motte trade for a 4C at this point.  He is always injured and his contract is up at the end of the year.  We have a surplus of wingers who can play on the 4th line now.  We really need a quality 4C who can kill penalties.

[deus.ex.makina]

Just noticed Motte is listed as C on nhlnumbers (puckpedia).
did he ever play C for us ? maybe he could be the answer for the 4th line. 

edit : For Horvat's case, its time to surround him with skilled offensive guys to see what he can do without the shutdown burden.
He HAS to play with Garland at least. 
Hoglander Horvat Garland should be a hell of a line, just after Miller Petey Boeser. 
Pearson should be on 3rd line to reflect the depth this year. 
Pearson Dickinson Podkolzin (Dickinson and Podz are naturaly def minded, maybe too much concerning Podz)
Chiasson Motte Lockwood  if Motte had indeed some C experience should be a good try. if not, i'll go with Chiasson Sutter Motte.

If injury carry's onto the season, i try Petan on 4th, and ice Chiasson Petan Lockwood. 

Edited October 3, 2021 by deus.ex.makina

[Captain Canuck #12]

33 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

He played centre in Utica and was taking draws.  He's not Bo Horvat or even Jay Beagle, but I am sure he would be an upgrade on little Petan and Highmore isn't even a centre and is much more effective on the wing.  Maybe there is a better option on the waiver wire or maybe Benning needs to trade a winger for a 4C.  Honestly, I would explore a Motte trade for a 4C at this point.  He is always injured and his contract is up at the end of the year.  We have a surplus of wingers who can play on the 4th line now.  We really need a quality 4C who can kill penalties.

As long as Miller stays at centre, we already have that quality 4C in Dickenson.

[Primo604]

Correct me if im wrong, but i was under the impression that if we picked Lind back up we were allowed to send him back down without clearing waivers? If so, why wouldnt we do that in order to keep grooming him. Didnt seem like too long ago that everyone had him as one of our top prospects. Why not re-gain our loss from the expansion draft?

[mll]

5 minutes ago, Primo604 said:

Correct me if im wrong, but i was under the impression that if we picked Lind back up we were allowed to send him back down without clearing waivers? If so, why wouldnt we do that in order to keep grooming him. Didnt seem like too long ago that everyone had him as one of our top prospects. Why not re-gain our loss from the expansion draft?

Not an option.  Vancouver has no rights over him anymore.  They can put in a claim but would also need waivers to send him to the AHL and the Kraken could just claim him back.

[4petesake]

14 minutes ago, Primo604 said:

Correct me if im wrong, but i was under the impression that if we picked Lind back up we were allowed to send him back down without clearing waivers? If so, why wouldnt we do that in order to keep grooming him. Didnt seem like too long ago that everyone had him as one of our top prospects. Why not re-gain our loss from the expansion draft?

No he would have to go back on waivers.

[YearoftheNuck]

4 hours ago, wallstreetamigo said:

I am not a Green hater by any stretch but the preseason does have me wondering just what a new coach not attached to specific pairings of players (Horvat and Pearson, EP and Boeser, etc) might have tried with such a revamped roster.

I’ve thought the exact same thing. I get why he’s doing this, but I would really like to see him give Horvat a proper look with players not named Pearson. I really like Pearson, but just not on the second. He’s more of a third line winger IMO. 

[kenhodgejr]

Petan Pettersson Boeser 

Hoglander Horvat Garland 

Pearson Miller Podkolzin

Highmore Dickenson Lind

Motte  

 

Gadjovich, Lockwood, MacEwan, Di Giseppe, in Abbotsford 

 

dont sign Chaisson 

 

 

[deus.ex.makina]

3 minutes ago, kenhodgejr said:

Petan Pettersson Boeser 

Hoglander Horvat Garland 

Pearson Miller Podkolzin

Highmore Dickenson Lind

Motte  

 

Gadjovich, Lockwood, MacEwan, Di Giseppe, in Abbotsford 

 

dont sign Chaisson 

 

 

Petan ? From « not in lineup » to first line winger ? I may have miss a thing  

[canuckleheads fan]

1 hour ago, Captain Canuck #12 said:

As long as Miller stays at centre, we already have that quality 4C in Dickenson.

They're not paying Dickenson all that money to be 4C.  Miller will return to Petey's wing, and Dickenson will be 3C.  4C will work itself out, Petan has looked okay, there are others who could play the role as a stopgap depending on how long Sutter will be out.  If it's really long Covid, he could miss the whole season, or perhaps call it a career.

[Phat Fingers]

On 9/29/2021 at 10:43 AM, Hairy Kneel said:

He can afford to set up separate residences and screen himself from his daughter. Even a close hotel. He could create another level of barrier from possibly infecting his daughter.

I'm sure the team would provide test kits for him. 

Hairy, asking by person to willing live away from their family was t part of his deal. Yes, us working stiffs have to go out to camps and work, but a lot of the fly in and out workers aren’t going back to Alberta.  It’s just too much Covid. 
 

why would it even be sensible for him to set up another home.  
 

how about we let the player, their medical team and their family figure out if things snd be patient.  
 

if Hamonic isn’t there at 5he start if the season, guys, JB has Myers, Poolman and Schenn for the Right side without Hamonic.  
 

extra cap space… deadly.  It’s not like Hughes or OEL didn’t make it.  
 

this a 4-5 d man.  More time for Woo to shine and knock some guys on their butts.  
 

early days and a long season.  
 

phats. 

[Phat Fingers]

Wanted to add, for all you spelling police.  Found out 3 months ago I am dyslexic at 47.  
 

that’s a trip.  
 

I had 4.0 GPO as an adult student in applied settings like Paramedic labs.  Aced the national exam… only to find after my divorce why I never took to the household paperwork… cause I have to be shown how to read for forms, websites and anything that combines numbers, letters and blank spaces or check boxes.  
 

it is impossible for me to grasp the <> >< signs.  Still can’t really figure out this basic equation symbol.  Good news, I finally figured out how to read a multi meter… it only took 20 years… 

 

but I had no idea I was dyslexic.  My mother was diagnosed in the 50’s, in Catholic school at 8 years of age.  She was sent to special needs class, she couldn’t learn to read in the standard method.  My grandfather gave a student at UofA in the education Department room and board for two years and every day after school my mother spent 2 hours at her kitchen table getting tutoring to read.  
 

fast forward to 1982.  I am 8, can’t learn to read, so my mother tutors me, but tells me I am being taught to read Left Handed because she doe3nt want the stigma of havin* a learning disability attached to her son.  
 

not until three months ago, when she, after nearly 40 years, out of 5he blue tells 5he story if her learning to read.  I was, ‘mom, you taught me to read the same way, because I couldn’t see the words right.  That means I am dyslexic.  So I also have a photogenic memory, so somehow I learned to fill in the blanks by looking at the page, then inserting words in my head.  the thing that is, I don’t even know I do it.  
 

so I went thru the entire school system, basically unknowingly dyslexic and though one day I could become a writer… lol

 

 

but spell check away… I will never be not me.  
 

phats.  

[IBatch]

2 hours ago, canuckleheads fan said:

They're not paying Dickenson all that money to be 4C.  Miller will return to Petey's wing, and Dickenson will be 3C.  4C will work itself out, Petan has looked okay, there are others who could play the role as a stopgap depending on how long Sutter will be out.  If it's really long Covid, he could miss the whole season, or perhaps call it a career.

Tyler Johnson was TB 4th line C...and Stastny played 3/4 line C on Vegas...both guys making Horvat/BB type money.    It happens.   Dickinson is more of a winger/C anyways.   Personally was hoping he'd play with Sutter and Motte to create a legit shut down line.   Nice to have options, his versatility is part of the reason he's getting term and a couple million plus. 

Edited October 3, 2021 by IBatch

[DrJockitch]

If Sutter were here I think a Gadjo-Sutter-Lockwood line would have been a great 4th line. 
Defence, energy, speed, hitting in spades and going straight at the net. 

Edited October 3, 2021 by DrJockitch