Popular Post eeeeergh Posted November 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2021 It feels like every article I read, Travis Green is noted as "well respected" around the league as a coach. I just looked up his 4 year AHL record - 2/4 years his team missed the playoffs, 1/4 year his team lost in round 1, and 1/4 year they lost in the finals. In 4 NHL seasons, 3/4 seasons his team missed the playoffs, and 1/4 year they lost in round 3. Thats 5/8 seasons he coached, his team missed the playoffs. Here's a quick comparison to Bruce Boudreau: 8/8 AHL seasons, his team made the playoffs 10/12 NHL seasons, his team made the playoffs Thats 2/20 seasons, his team missed the playoffs. How tf does Boudreau not have a job, while Green got a 2 year extension????? 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) Maybe he's just a nice guy around other coaches and the media (to some extent), but he's just bad at his job. Nobody seems to really care that he's bad at his job, except the fans. The other coaches don't really care - easy points and a nice demeanor. I think it should be noted that the players likely voted to keep Green onboard this season, or else he would've been gone. Then again, I could be wrong. Anyway, @eeeeergh - This is a valid question. Well done. Edited November 12, 2021 by Dazzle 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coconuts Posted November 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) Coaches, players, and the management of other teams publicly trashing another team's coach is pretty rare A coach like Trotz is well respected, but "well respected" is also thrown around the way "generational player" is Edited November 12, 2021 by Coconuts 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Dazzle said: Maybe he's just a nice guy around other coaches and the media (to some extent), but he's just bad at his job. Nobody seems to really care that he's bad at his job, except the fans. The other coaches don't really care - easy points and a nice demeanor. I think it should be noted that the players likely voted to keep Green onboard this season, or else he would've been gone. Then again, I could be wrong. Anyway, @eeeeergh - This is a valid question. Yeah my mind is blown b/c ive never worked at a place where someone underperforming that drastically for that long has remained employed. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 250Integra Posted November 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2021 Well respected because his team is so damn easy to play against 1 1 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Luck Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 green is a joke. never won anything as a coach. he isnt well respected lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCon1 Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 34 minutes ago, eeeeergh said: It feels like every article I read, Travis Green is noted as "well respected" around the league as a coach. I just looked up his 4 year AHL record - 2/4 years his team missed the playoffs, 1/4 year his team lost in round 1, and 1/4 year they lost in the finals. In 4 NHL seasons, 3/4 seasons his team missed the playoffs, and 1/4 year they lost in round 3. Thats 5/8 seasons he coached, his team missed the playoffs. Here's a quick comparison to Bruce Boudreau: 8/8 AHL seasons, his team made the playoffs 10/12 NHL seasons, his team made the playoffs Thats 2/20 seasons, his team missed the playoffs. How tf does Boudreau not have a job, while Green got a 2 year extension????? Well ask Benning. He also didnt sign Tanev or Toffoli to 4 mil per year contracts yet re-signed pearson close to 4 mil and gave poolman a hefty contract. He loves mediocrity I guess. 1 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 I've never seen an article where it says Green is well respected, may be it's just an illusion lol. I've seen players say he is a good coach and whoever plays hard get minutes. Except... Garland then gets his minutes cut after playing red hot the first 7-8 games and Pettersson still getting 20 minutes a game while playing like a dud. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 I know it may sound crappy saying this but I’ll take an 0fer on this road trip with losses like tonight if it means getting Green fired. I can’t take this anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Drakrami said: I've never seen an article where it says Green is well respected, may be it's just an illusion lol. I've seen players say he is a good coach and whoever plays hard get minutes. Except... Garland then gets his minutes cut after playing red hot the first 7-8 games and Pettersson still getting 20 minutes a game while playing like a dud. https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/canucks-travis-green-new-contract "well regarded around the nhl"https://www.si.com/hockey/news/five-nhl-coaches-on-the-hotseat-and-five-ready-for-work "Green is well respected around the league" There are a few others I remember reading too, and when the coaching discussions were happening before his contract was given, all the hockey pundits were praising Green on tv. I do feel like nobody wants to criticize a coach for being bad. Much easier to criticize players. Even when the track record speaks for itself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Bedard Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 57 minutes ago, Dazzle said: Maybe he's just a nice guy around other coaches and the media (to some extent) Sounds like Benning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 27 minutes ago, DefCon1 said: Well ask Benning. He also didnt sign Tanev or Toffoli to 4 mil per year contracts yet re-signed pearson close to 4 mil and gave poolman a hefty contract. He loves mediocrity I guess. Pearson's not doing well so far, but few are with the way the coaching has been handled. Pearson's contract is not really overpaid. And Poolman's 2.5? Lol... he's better/more reliable than Jordie Benn was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 44 minutes ago, Canuck Luck said: green is a joke. never won anything as a coach. he isnt well respected lol Shane O’Brien and Scottie Upshall along with the Chiclets crew and others say otherwise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 1 hour ago, eeeeergh said: It feels like every article I read, Travis Green is noted as "well respected" around the league as a coach. I just looked up his 4 year AHL record - 2/4 years his team missed the playoffs, 1/4 year his team lost in round 1, and 1/4 year they lost in the finals. In 4 NHL seasons, 3/4 seasons his team missed the playoffs, and 1/4 year they lost in round 3. Thats 5/8 seasons he coached, his team missed the playoffs. Here's a quick comparison to Bruce Boudreau: 8/8 AHL seasons, his team made the playoffs 10/12 NHL seasons, his team made the playoffs Thats 2/20 seasons, his team missed the playoffs. How tf does Boudreau not have a job, while Green got a 2 year extension????? Remember how we made fun of the Oilers for buying into the Toronto media AHL hype for Dallas Eakins? Green is pretty much our version of that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Remember how we made fun of the Oilers for buying into the Toronto media AHL hype for Dallas Eakins? Green is pretty much our version of that. The funny thing about that, Eakins has done a pretty nice job turning things around in Anaheim so far. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 The feeling many observers seem to convey is that Green has done well with the little he has to work with. Till now the criticism from observers has been directed towards Benning - maybe that changes with the core also struggling. They don't seem to think much of the roster construction. The young core has impressed - Hughes, Pettersson, Boeser etc with Green getting his share of the praise for their impact. Benning's signings in free agency have been mostly harshly criticised though and several of his trades haven't impressed either. Sportsnet gave Vancouver the only fail grade of the Canadian teams in free agency this summer with a D+. Most projections had Vancouver outside of a playoff spot. Pettersson, Boeser, Hughes were ranked highly in those projections but many of the players surrounding them weren't. That the young players are now struggling might change perception. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 2 hours ago, eeeeergh said: It feels like every article I read, Travis Green is noted as "well respected" around the league as a coach. I just looked up his 4 year AHL record - 2/4 years his team missed the playoffs, 1/4 year his team lost in round 1, and 1/4 year they lost in the finals. In 4 NHL seasons, 3/4 seasons his team missed the playoffs, and 1/4 year they lost in round 3. Thats 5/8 seasons he coached, his team missed the playoffs. Here's a quick comparison to Bruce Boudreau: 8/8 AHL seasons, his team made the playoffs 10/12 NHL seasons, his team made the playoffs Thats 2/20 seasons, his team missed the playoffs. How tf does Boudreau not have a job, while Green got a 2 year extension????? all coaches are respected around the league name a coach wo is not respected around the league its a hockeyism and has no more meaning than giving 110% and the room has a good bunch of guys I bet you've never heard of a room that didn't have a good bunch of guys either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU SERIOUS Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 2 hours ago, DefCon1 said: Well ask Benning. He also didnt sign Tanev or Toffoli to 4 mil per year contracts yet re-signed pearson close to 4 mil and gave poolman a hefty contract. He loves mediocrity I guess. Why sign 44 point TT when you can get 4 point Jake "The Ripper" for a million bucks less. Doesn't make any sense (in Uncle Jim's mind). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU SERIOUS Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 3 hours ago, eeeeergh said: It feels like every article I read, Travis Green is noted as "well respected" around the league as a coach. I just looked up his 4 year AHL record - 2/4 years his team missed the playoffs, 1/4 year his team lost in round 1, and 1/4 year they lost in the finals. In 4 NHL seasons, 3/4 seasons his team missed the playoffs, and 1/4 year they lost in round 3. Thats 5/8 seasons he coached, his team missed the playoffs. Here's a quick comparison to Bruce Boudreau: 8/8 AHL seasons, his team made the playoffs 10/12 NHL seasons, his team made the playoffs Thats 2/20 seasons, his team missed the playoffs. How tf does Boudreau not have a job, while Green got a 2 year extension????? Just a friendly suggestion....next time skip the niceties after a 7-1 humiliation. Tonight this topic should have been "Why is Green around the league? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 5 hours ago, eeeeergh said: It feels like every article I read, Travis Green is noted as "well respected" around the league as a coach. I just looked up his 4 year AHL record - 2/4 years his team missed the playoffs, 1/4 year his team lost in round 1, and 1/4 year they lost in the finals. In 4 NHL seasons, 3/4 seasons his team missed the playoffs, and 1/4 year they lost in round 3. Thats 5/8 seasons he coached, his team missed the playoffs. Here's a quick comparison to Bruce Boudreau: 8/8 AHL seasons, his team made the playoffs 10/12 NHL seasons, his team made the playoffs Thats 2/20 seasons, his team missed the playoffs. How tf does Boudreau not have a job, while Green got a 2 year extension????? And without Marky he wouldn’t have reached finals in AHL and playoffs in NHL. Now Demko does the same thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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