R3aL Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 30 minutes ago, aGENT said: Yup....AND could have used the cap space saved there, to add Marino for Rathbone + Bo may have even come in closer to $7 in the summer, before scoring ALL the goals. They F#%@'d this up. Huge ya the comp from their camp was Sean couturier 7.5. if we signed Bo for 7-7.5 his contract would have looked great just like the one he’s on now but we would have seen the value instantly. and still been moveable if he wanted a change if we were crashing and burning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, beni said: I doubt EP re signs here after this contract is up the way things are going. I have my doubts as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Shayster007 said: Send them Horvat and OEL then. Let's get this rebuild started!! Similar situation to PIT. Both should be going all in to try and win another one with/for their aging cores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, R3aL said: Huge ya the comp from their camp was Sean couturier 7.5. if we signed Bo for 7-7.5 his contract would have looked great just like the one he’s on now but we would have seen the value instantly. and still been moveable if he wanted a change if we were crashing and burning. The Canucks fight is barely flying but I get it. So far, with Aquaman as pilot, the airplane is on a nose dive but the party inside is on going... Edited December 13, 2022 by ShawnAntoski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Kenny Powers said: Where do you see him landing? I think Pittsburgh would be interesting, it's pretty close to where he grew up. He's supposedly got a home there, or at least this video says as much at the start. He also touches on growing up a Penguins fan at 10:50ish. https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/canucks-j-t-miller-family-becoming-social-media-stars-home/ Sending him home, or somewhere I could see him being okay with going, would help mitigate the optics of trading him shortly after signing him. Obviously it'd involve taking some cap back but I could see something around Miller for Zucker or Rakell+? The caveat is the they have 10 and 8 team NTC's and we may be on them. Or we could get creative and retain half of JT's contract this year (I don't think we'd have to retain on the upcoming deal?) and swap him for saaaaay Brock McGinn+. McGinn comes in at 2.75M. Zucker's 5.5M comes off the books after this season, that combined with McGinn's 2.75M pays Miller. McGinn is signed for two more seasons but that's five fewer than seven. It'd give a Penguins team that likely wants to milk as much as it can out of Crosby, Malkin, and Letang some more scoring punch up front. Edited December 13, 2022 by Coconuts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, HKSR said: I'm ready to move onto the Elias Pettersson and Quinn Hughes era of Canucks hockey. This! It really is that simple. A NEW ERA PLEASE! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 20 minutes ago, aGENT said: Kapanen + some mix of Pickering/Poulin/Blomqvist and a pick for Miller with whatever cap retained this year to make it work. YES PLEASE. Miller to Pittsburgh could work. With 50% this year we could swap Miller for Kapanen and Pittsburgh could add their 2023 1st round pick and a prospect. Pittsburgh should be all in the next 3 years with Crosby and Malkin and Miller can be their guy for the 4 years afterwards when they are rebuilding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, PhillipBlunt said: I have my doubts as well. I as well. With Bo gone, does EP really believe in the center depth here? Does Bo trade really make a big difference in what comes back? It's a mess and the result of trying to take short cuts for years. Just crap for young depth and ammo to buy what is needed. Not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: JR had no plans to rebuild in the summer, nor does he still have any plans to rebuild. They wanted either Horvat or Miller done prior to the season, and they were able to get Miller done at the price they wanted. Coming off a 99 point season they felt he had the higher value. Horvat has muddled things up by having a career year that no one expected. So now they are basically forced to trade him as they don't want to give him an 8x8 contract. They can still retool even with Miller on the team. They need to trade BO, Boeser, Garland and either trade Pearson or Myers this summer or at next year's deadline. That should free up $26 million in cap space. The key is to get some younger players, prospects and not just have money in, money out. That way they can be active in free agency next year and go after a guy like Artem Zub. Jake Livingstone should be a no brainer as well, so that is 2 RHD right there. I'd go after a guy like Cal Foote as well, as he might not be a fit in Tampa anymore. the hard part was that mgmt was banking on Miller being a capable C. Heck I was too thinking he could essentially take Bo’s spot. Maybe he still can despite a pretty shaky start to this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, beni said: I doubt EP re signs here after this contract is up the way things are going. I think if the plan is spelled out to him and we build around him and Hughes, I think he stays. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, Elias Pettersson said: Miller to Pittsburgh could work. With 50% this year we could swap Miller for Kapanen and Pittsburgh could add their 2023 1st round pick and a prospect. Pittsburgh should be all in the next 3 years with Crosby and Malkin and Miller can be their guy for the 4 years afterwards when they are rebuilding. Burke & Hextall are in Pitsburgh and I am not sure Allvin can convince both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Off topic but Chris Tanev just took a heavy slap shot to the head and left the game with help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, beni said: I doubt EP re signs here after this contract is up the way things are going. Just like Sakic, in Colorado - it will be up to the combination of Aquaman, JR and Allvin to convince him, if the current FO, is still here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFsedins Posted December 13, 2022 Author Share Posted December 13, 2022 25 minutes ago, smithers joe said: next season boston has over 26 mil in cap space. Big chunk would be going to Pastrnak I would assume, then they have alot of holes to fill if Bergeron decides to hang em up. I dont think its over 26 they have. I believe its a little over 20. Correct me if Im wrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, HOFsedins said: Big chunk would be going to Pastrnak I would assume, then they have alot of holes to fill if Bergeron decides to hang em up. I dont think its over 26 they have. I believe its a little over 20. Correct me if Im wrong $26.587 of cap space, but only 12 players signed 8 ufa 2 rfa https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/bruins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, HOFsedins said: Big chunk would be going to Pastrnak I would assume, then they have alot of holes to fill if Bergeron decides to hang em up. I dont think its over 26 they have. I believe its a little over 20. Correct me if Im wrong Bruins rebuilding ? Let's see how Sweeney will do cause he really bombed his first draft, as GM. Anyways, it will be interesting to see how Sweeney, will transition from the old core. Edited December 13, 2022 by ShawnAntoski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 To Pittsburgh: JT Miller 50% retained on this last year of his current contract. So coming in at 2.65M over the remainder of the current season. Zucker's 5.5M comes off the books for the Penguins and boom, Miller's extension is taken care of. To Vancouver Brock McGinn, comes in at 2.75M for this season and the two following seasons. 1st round pick. 5.25M in cap space that opens up at the end of the season. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, rekker said: I as well. With Bo gone, does EP really believe in the center depth here? Does Bo trade really make a big difference in what comes back? It's a mess and the result of trying to take short cuts for years. Just crap for young depth and ammo to buy what is needed. Not good. Why would any single young impact player look at this team, management and ownership and think that they’ll be part of a championship team here? Edited December 13, 2022 by PhillipBlunt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Attach pears to Bo in a trade as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, Mustard Tiger said: Attach pears to Bo in a trade as well Send Pearson to CGY for a 3rd at TDL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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