aGENT Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 7 hours ago, RWJC said: Entirely depends on if he pre-agrees to extension. There is no conversation at all involving Wright until there’s a commitment structured with Bo first. No one is blindly giving up a most recent top 5 NHL draft pick on an impending UFA. Yeah, I hope everyone was assuming this was extended Horvat in this "Horvat for Wright" discussion. Wright for a couple month rental makes no sense whatsoever. For an extended Horvat however... And even then I'm doubtful they're THAT interested at this stage, 2 years in to their existence. But we be spit-ball'n. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, coho8888 said: I beg to differ. Most of the Kraken players are in their mid to late 20's and Horvat fits in with that age group. With Horvat you know what you are getting (despite a career year). They may see their window opening up. And none of them are core players moving forward. Again, a team like Seattle shouldn’t be mortgaging the future for a few playoff games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) If I was Horvat I’d go public and say I won’t be signing anywhere until the summer. Screw those that screw you. Eat a D JR FA then Once traded start talking extension lol gotta help the new team get me cheap and sign a discount to be able to win . Edited January 20, 2023 by combover 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 22 minutes ago, Alflives said: What does TBay have we would want? The more teams bidding if certainly better for us. I'd do it for Cernak + picks +/- but I doubt they would. Hughes-Cernak though.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, combover said: If I was Horvat I’d go public and say I won’t be signing anywhere until the summer. Screw those that screw you. Eat a D JR FA i already suggested horvat ain't going to do this management group any favors based on how they have treated him throughout the entire contract negotiation.. started the negotiation with a lowball offer.. and ended the negotiation with an offer based on his previous season not acknowledging the work he have done this season.. JR treated horvat just like boudreau nothing but disrespect. all these suggestions of trading bo to teams not even in the playoff.. news flash bo ain't re-signing there just to hope maybe they'll make the playoff one day.. even if bo is interested at signing with the teams he's going to be traded to.. he'll 100% do it without prior agreeing.. why would he want to get extra asset for the management that had basically had no intention of re-signing him and wasting time with the negotiation? like at this point 6.5ish over 8 is their best offer? we dont care you have 30 goals in half a season. why bother even offering 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat land fish Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 27 minutes ago, combover said: Lol so their rumoured last offer and “best shot” to resign horvat was mid 6s for 8 years lololololol yeah no kidding he rejected it. they just paid boeser 6.7 so the guy who takes the vast majority of faceoffs for the team and more than any player in the league, plays in all situations and is putting up back to back 30 goal seasons. whatever team gets him will be instantly a lot better. From the information Dhaliwal learned, the last offer the Horvat party rejected was in the mid 6's for 8 years. Which probably would've been a good range before hitting the ice in 2022, but his current offensive game takes his worth to the next level and it's clear that a $6.5M AAV is not going to cut it. Interesting though is if Horvat wants more money than that it will probably have to be for a team that’s rebuilding and has cap space. Which top 10 teams have expiring contracts for centers getting paid 8 Million+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Well, Horvat is an All-Star again. His value just went up a bit more. Trade him now before he gets injured! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coho8888 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, shiznak said: And none of them are core players moving forward. Again, a team like Seattle shouldn’t be mortgaging the future for a few playoff games. Of course its all contingent upon Horvat extending. Don't think they would do it for a rental. Wright is only one piece of their "future". You can stay put and slowly build through the draft but there are no guarantees. They have a top ten team this year. A few pieces here and there and they can go further. They can soften the blow a bit by taking back a prospect(s) from us as well. A package of say Bo (with extension) Schenn Letterimaki and maybe Rathbone for Wright 2023 1st is something they should look at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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grandmaster Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: This does not make sense…unless they want to genuinely try another offer? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyone Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 since Horvat is now an allstar.... I have a legit question: If/when he gets traded, let's say to Carolina, how does that work at the all star game? which team does he play for? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Just now, grandmaster said: This does not make sense…unless they want to genuinely try another offer? None of this management makes sense 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, coho8888 said: Of course its all contingent upon Horvat extending. Don't think they would do it for a rental. Wright is only one piece of their "future". You can stay put and slowly build through the draft but there are no guarantees. They have a top ten team this year. A few pieces here and there and they can go further. They can soften the blow a bit by taking back a prospect(s) from us as well. A package of say Bo (with extension) Schenn Letterimaki and maybe Rathbone for Wright 2023 1st is something they should look at Or they could just wait until the summer, sign Horvat and keep their future intact. They have the cap space to outbid the competition. If they can keep pace during the second half of the season. They probably make the playoffs anyway, without Horvat. He’s not going to put them over the top as legitimate Cup contenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, grandmaster said: This does not make sense…unless they want to genuinely try another offer? If the offers aren’t good enough why would they let him talk to teams? the Canucks would lose control of the negotiations if the agent started talking to teams 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, flat land fish said: Interesting though is if Horvat wants more money than that it will probably have to be for a team that’s rebuilding and has cap space. Which top 10 teams have expiring contracts for centers getting paid 8 Million+ let see carolina with staal and pac coming off the book. boston would have to get creative assuming bergeron retires and kecji doesn't come back. islander have cap space to do it most their roster is pretty much set for next season. new jersey can do it too depending on how they allocate their cap space with 36-37mil in the summer and their rfa.. there's plenty of teams that can afford horvat.. and none of those teams are "rebuilding" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wai_lai416 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, grumpyone said: since Horvat is now an allstar.... I have a legit question: If/when he gets traded, let's say to Carolina, how does that work at the all star game? which team does he play for? neither he becomes ineligible he'll get an all star recognition only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Probably a good thing. Could hinder the chances of getting a full value in a return. If he’s talking to other teams, perhaps there’s a team with a great offer at hand but discussions don’t go well and the trade ultimately gets botched. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket1994 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) If they are going to trade him, I could see it happening soon. 1) because the interest is so strong already. 2) because they are planning on making multiple moves and don’t want to leave everything until the last minute. The later you leave everything, the more risk of not being able to accomplish it all. Edited January 20, 2023 by IRR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, flat land fish said: Interesting though is if Horvat wants more money than that it will probably have to be for a team that’s rebuilding and has cap space. Which top 10 teams have expiring contracts for centers getting paid 8 Million+ The fair price for horvat going back to the summer was 7.5 -8 tram that want to win will se horvat as an upgrade to most #2 centers and will make cap moves. 1000 face off 2nd in the nhl in fo wins = possession plays in all situations Back to back 30 goal years and was a total beast in the very few opportunities he’s had in the post season good size speed and not afraid And honestly I think he’ll take less to play where he’s appreciated/respected and playing in meaningful games. clearly those things won’t be happening here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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