Nucksfollower1983 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Trade #1 To Edm: Halak To Van: RNH Oilers do this because it gives them the help in net they desperately need and saves them some cap to get help on D Canucks do this because RNH can help replace the offense they will lose when they trade MIller for same cap hit, also signed through the rest of his prime. Trade #2 To NYR: MIller To Van: Schnieder, Kravstov, 1st NYR does this because they get a player who will help them contend for the next 2 playoffs at a good cap hit and move on from a disgruntled prospect and well you have to give to get and Miller wont be had for cheap. Van does this for the futures involved. Flame away! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Why does Edmonton trade RNH for a pending UFA who's over 35 though? With the contract he signed they basically included him in the core of their team, it's not like the Oilers can just sign a mystical UFA with the freed up cap space, when it probably makes more sense for them to trade Nuge for some value which includes that defenseman, and then they trade a pick they acquired for Halak. The whole first trade just seems weird IMO. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucksfollower1983 Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, Phil_314 said: Why does Edmonton trade RNH for a pending UFA who's over 35 though? With the contract he signed they basically included him in the core of their team, it's not like the Oilers can just sign a mystical UFA with the freed up cap space, when it probably makes more sense for them to trade Nuge for some value which includes that defenseman, and then they trade a pick they acquired for Halak. The whole first trade just seems weird IMO. to try and save their season and keep McDavid happy, what other G is available that could help them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Depth scoring is an issue in Edmonton. RNH is 3rd in Team scoring for them. I don’t see them touching this with a 10’ pole. Halak doesn’t have remotely that much value, especially considering he comes with $1.25m in dead cap space next season. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucksfollower1983 Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Depth scoring is an issue in Edmonton. RNH is 3rd in Team scoring for them. I don’t see them touching this with a 10’ pole. Halak doesn’t have remotely that much value, especially considering he comes with $1.25m in dead cap space next season. Fair enough but Oilers need help in net and on D in a bad way and no one is going to help them for cheap, they have to trade a forward and not have salary come back. Even with the dead cap there they still come out ahead cap wise. How do they solve their issues without trading a forward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nucksfollower1983 said: Fair enough but Oilers need help in net and on D in a bad way and no one is going to help them for cheap, they have to trade a forward and not have salary come back. Even with the dead cap there they still come out ahead cap wise. How do they solve their issues without trading a forward? If they’re moving someone of RNH quality who is signed with term to a reasonable deal they’re getting a better return than a half season from a 36 year old goalie who comes with dead cap space to boot. They can go after a guy like Swayman or Ulmark out of Boston. Even if they are desperate enough to do a deal like you suggest they could go after Fleury 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 If the trades done, I think Canucks win in both trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 26 minutes ago, qwijibo said: If they’re moving someone of RNH quality who is signed with term to a reasonable deal they’re getting a better return than a half season from a 36 year old goalie who comes with dead cap space to boot. They can go after a guy like Swayman or Ulmark out of Boston. Even if they are desperate enough to do a deal like you suggest they could go after Fleury Exactly. OP, I'm not the most well-versed in Edmonton's blue-line but I know that Boston could really use a 2nd line C since Krejci went back to Czech Republic (Coyle isn't cutting it and they've been trying Haula there). Edmonton should target either Ullmark or Swayman, plus one of Grzelcyk/ Forbort (3rd pair on even strength but 1st pair PK LD) or a younger D like Vaakanainen or Zboril, who could help on their defensive end. Not just a pending UFA in Halak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 RNH signed a below market contract because he wanted a full NMC.....he isn't going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 45 minutes ago, Rick Blight said: RNH signed a below market contract because he wanted a full NMC.....he isn't going anywhere. Does he want to stay there though lol I would hate to be RNH stuck in Edmonton once McDavid and Drais request trades lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Nucksfollower1983 said: to try and save their season and keep McDavid happy, what other G is available that could help them? They should be all over Fleury. Have Chicago retain $2.5 million and send Koskinen the other way. Not sure what they would have to give up though for Fleury. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 8 hours ago, Nucksfollower1983 said: to try and save their season and keep McDavid happy, what other G is available that could help them? Fleury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 10 hours ago, Nucksfollower1983 said: Trade #1 To Edm: Halak To Van: RNH You must think Ken Holland is stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Trade one is fair enough. Trade two needs to dump Crapsoft for Lafrenierre. Get 'er done JR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 11 hours ago, Nucksfollower1983 said: to try and save their season and keep McDavid happy, what other G is available that could help them? Yeah, there's a decent chance that McDiver requests a trade to an NHL team at this rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Canuckster86 said: Fleury Why would he agree to go to that hellhole of a city and play behind an AHL quality blueline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Not a chance the Rangers give up that package for Miller. Their windo is just opening. THey wouldn't gve up 3 significant pieces for 1.5 years of Miller, who they can't resign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 9 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: They should be all over Fleury. Have Chicago retain $2.5 million and send Koskinen the other way. Not sure what they would have to give up though for Fleury. It's more likely than Halak imo They're both on expiring contracts and Chicago doesn't have much of a playoff chance, Edmonton is still in the mix despite their slide They've got games in hand still too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 12 hours ago, CanucksJay said: Does he want to stay there though lol I would hate to be RNH stuck in Edmonton once McDavid and Drais request trades lol Well did Edler or the Sedins or anyone else until it was way past the writing on the wall want to leave Vancouver? Not really. Bieksa was the only one who had a few years left in him .... Hansen and Burrows were all but done. Yes his NMC matters to him, otherwise he never would have signed it. McDavid will end up in TO. Not sure where Drasaitl will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 RNH is soft as buttah. Plus he doesn't want to be here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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