[PGT] Vancouver Canucks at Chicago Blackhawks | Jan. 31, 2022

[khay]

1 hour ago, wai_lai416 said:

lol even if we have better pking we wouldn't be anywhere near the top in the pacific.. they can't score enough goals to win games.. we have scored 2 goals or less in 27 of the 44 games and won a grand total of 4 of the 27 games.. if we can manage 1 more goals in those 27 games we would have picked up minimum 8 points if not 8 wins then we'd be comfortably sitting in a playoff spot. scoring 2 goals or less in more than half of the games ain't going to win u games.. u can't expect the goalie to give up 1 goal or less in more than 50% of the games.

Yeah but Tanev would help us save 1 goal in many of those 27 games. That would have at least taken the game to OT. 

 

And Tanev is good at moving the puck. He is not a defenceman that just throws it out, he actually passes it out. 

 

So who knows if our offence would have scored a few more here and there?

 

But if Tanev was here, Green and Baumer would still be here too. So, maybe it's good that Tanev's gone.

 

 

[khay]

8 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said:

i don't think islander is a good example they score goals by commitee and have contribution from all their lines and most importantly defense.. if u can't average close to 3 goals per game u aint' going to win. the islanders were good defense team sure but they were still avging 2.7 goals per game in all those seasons. look at this season. they are avg 2.3 and they are sitting in top 5 for goals against per game.. look at where they are in the standing? below .500

 

not a single team that avg less than 2.5 goals per game are in a playoff spot regardless of their goals against how great their pk is etc. i'm willing to bet no team in the last decade have made the playoffs avging under 2.5 goals per game regardless how great their defense is. the closest i can think of is probably the LA kings back in the sutter days but i thinkt hey still avg at or over 2.5 goals per game. 

You have a good point. Unless we up our goal scoring, it's going to be hard to make the playoffs and do much even if we get there.

 

And yes, LA in 2014 when they won the cup scored 2.41 goals per game but with 2.05 GAA. In 2012, they only scored 2.29 but gave up 2.07 per game -- that's why they were the 8th seed.

 

Wilds in 2014 also made the playoffs having scored 2.43 goals per game. And there are few more.

 

Here's the source: https://www.nhl.com/stats/teams?aggregate=0&reportType=season&seasonFrom=20112012&seasonTo=20202021&gameType=2&filter=goalsForPerGame,lte,2.5&sort=pointPct&page=0&pageSize=50.

 

Our GAA is 2.64 right now but since Boudreau took over, it's 2.00 (https://www.nhl.com/stats/teams?reportType=game&dateFrom=2021-12-05&dateTo=2022-01-31&gameType=2&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=a_goalsAgainstPerGame&page=0&pageSize=50).

 

If we keep that up, that is very much reminiscent of LA Kings in 2012 and 2014.

 

In other words, if we find a way to sneak in there even if it's as the lowest seed, we might make some noise depending on the playoff draw. For example, once LA got past us thanks to Ducan "f*cked by Myers" Keith in 2012, they had their road paved with easy match ups.

 

By the way, trade Miller.

 

[wai_lai416]

4 minutes ago, khay said:

You have a good point. Unless we up our goal scoring, it's going to be hard to make the playoffs and do much even if we get there.

 

And yes, LA in 2014 when they won the cup scored 2.41 goals per game but with 2.05 GAA. In 2012, they only scored 2.29 but gave up 2.07 per game -- that's why they were the 8th seed.

 

Wilds in 2014 also made the playoffs having scored 2.43 goals per game. And there are few more.

 

Here's the source: https://www.nhl.com/stats/teams?aggregate=0&reportType=season&seasonFrom=20112012&seasonTo=20202021&gameType=2&filter=goalsForPerGame,lte,2.5&sort=pointPct&page=0&pageSize=50.

 

Our GAA is 2.64 right now but since Boudreau took over, it's 2.00 (https://www.nhl.com/stats/teams?reportType=game&dateFrom=2021-12-05&dateTo=2022-01-31&gameType=2&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=a_goalsAgainstPerGame&page=0&pageSize=50).

 

If we keep that up, that is very much reminiscent of LA Kings in 2012 and 2014.

 

In other words, if we find a way to sneak in there even if it's as the lowest seed, we might make some noise depending on the playoff draw. For example, once LA got past us thanks to Ducan "f*cked by Myers" Keith in 2012, they had their road paved with easy match ups.

 

By the way, trade Miller.

 

meh they were technically at or over 2.5 goals per game.. it's just the extra mins from OT lower those stats.. but game wise they still avg over 2.5 per game 82 games 2.5 is 205 goals

[-Vintage Canuck-]

[sassbs]

3 hours ago, yes we can nucks said:

That's 3 solid games in a row by 3 different goalies for us. Martin, Demko, and now Halak. All three of them coming in cold to play. That speaks to the excellent coaching they're getting from Ian Clark. What an embarrassment of riches we have in net with these three, and DiPietro in the pipeline. They could be difference makers for us WHEN we make the playoffs.

I feel DiPietro won’t be with Vancouver that long.  He’s an AHL goalie at best.  All the starts he’s had, he has not impressed.  
 

[Rabbit]

Excellent win!

Halak should get his first SO tonight.

Schenn is quite good, Canucks should keep him next season.

Motte line continuous shows good energy. 

[singing chef]

2 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

 

....and I picked him off waivers for my fantasy team this morning.  Hits & blocks count.   And he scored to boot - thanks Luke !

[DeNiro]

2 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

 

Schenn is a big boy too at 225. Those hits hurt.

 

So important to have a D man that punishes guys on the forecheck. Makes them ease up whenever they’re going into the corners.

[-AJ-]

Anaheim and Edmonton are tied in point percentage currently at .573 and are the target for the #2 wildcard spot. For us to catch them at .573, we would need a record equivalent to 24-13-0 to finish the year. Definitely possible, but also definitely difficult.

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

[wai_lai416]

38 minutes ago, khay said:

Yeah but Tanev would help us save 1 goal in many of those 27 games. That would have at least taken the game to OT. 

 

And Tanev is good at moving the puck. He is not a defenceman that just throws it out, he actually passes it out. 

 

So who knows if our offence would have scored a few more here and there?

 

But if Tanev was here, Green and Baumer would still be here too. So, maybe it's good that Tanev's gone.

 

 

honestly i don't think tanev would make much of a difference in those games tbh if he was still here he'd be playign with hughes and hughes is already moving the puck and creating anyways tanev would improve the defensive side of it? but hughes have been good this year defensively so don't think much would change unless they decide to split them. 

[Googlie]

2 minutes ago, -AJ- said:

Anaheim and Edmonton are tied in point percentage current at .573 and are the target for the #2 wildcard spot. For us to catch them at .573, we would need a record equivalent to 24-13-0 to finish the year. Definitely possible, but also definitely difficult.

So win 2 of every 3 remaining, and get a loser point every 3rd game?  Piece of cake 

[King Heffy]

20 minutes ago, sassbs said:

I feel DiPietro won’t be with Vancouver that long.  He’s an AHL goalie at best.  All the starts he’s had, he has not impressed.  
 

All of his starts he's either had behind a team coached by Green and Baumer, or a severely covid depleted lineup.  We haven't seen what he can do when he's not completely set up to fail.

[-AJ-]

5 minutes ago, Googlie said:

So win 2 of every 3 remaining, and get a loser point every 3rd game?  Piece of cake 

Yep! I believe we need a .640 point percentage or so for the rest of the year.

[NewbieCanuckFan]

1 hour ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

But we can do our best to make sure Edmonton and Calgary don't make it either. 

If only the Laffs don’t make it as well.  Would be the perfect trifecta!

[khay]

12 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said:

honestly i don't think tanev would make much of a difference in those games tbh if he was still here he'd be playign with hughes and hughes is already moving the puck and creating anyways tanev would improve the defensive side of it? but hughes have been good this year defensively so don't think much would change unless they decide to split them. 

5-on-5, I don't disagree.

 

But I think Tanev will improve the PK.

 

67% would jump to at least 80%. We used to give up 2 PPG against per game. If we could just slash that down to 1 PPG per game, that would have meant a lot of points.

 

[khay]

40 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said:

meh they were technically at or over 2.5 goals per game.. it's just the extra mins from OT lower those stats.. but game wise they still avg over 2.5 per game 82 games 2.5 is 205 goals

Those stats don't take OT minutes into account. It's goals per game?

 

Look at the GF column. LA scored 198 goals in 2014. That's 7 goals less than 205 goals that you mentioned.

 

In 2012, they scored 188 goals. That's 17 goals less than 205 goals. 

 

in both of those years, they won the Stanley Cup.

 

Check the table again: https://www.nhl.com/stats/teams?aggregate=0&reportType=season&seasonFrom=20112012&seasonTo=20202021&gameType=2&filter=goalsForPerGame,lte,2.5&sort=pointPct&page=0&pageSize=50

[khay]

42 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

43 by Daniel is more impressive than Brock's 14. But yeah, if Brock plays out his career here like the Sedins, he will at least double it and get to 30+.

 

Also surprising that Naslund doesn't have more GWGs.

 

 

 

[TNucks1]

49 minutes ago, sassbs said:

I feel DiPietro won’t be with Vancouver that long.  He’s an AHL goalie at best.  All the starts he’s had, he has not impressed.  
 

im not saying DiPietro is gunna be an nhler but he's had 3 nhl starts so far and was pretty much forced into all those games and not to mention with covid really messing with his game time and development isnt helping.

EDIT: https://www.nhl.com/player/michael-dipietro-8480022 , 8:23 secs in that 2nd game.

Edited February 1, 2022 by TNucks1

[PuckTruckCanuck]

I wonder if we could somehow pry Hughes away from the Devils in exchange for some of our forwards.