SilentSam Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Hey, I’m happy for Dickenson to find his game,. But he wasn’t showing anything , of anything with us here. Perhaps he looked in the mirror before left and had a gut check.. perhaps it puts his personal life in order better,. who knows , who cares. We cleared space.. and with it , we grab 2 D men that I hope have that same divine intervention that Dickenson found.. and can support with back bone to our ranks. Dickenson who.… gotta let this stuff go and move on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Dickinson is a douche. Scores a goal, flinches thinking there's contact coming, sees that it is only his teammate driven to the ground, starts celebrating without a care for his downed teammate... lol. I've seen hints of him being a douche on this team even with his invisibleness. Now this further confirms it. Would be pretty bad if Chicago flips him for a 2nd at TDL lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho_Path Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) For all those complaining about us trading away our 2nd round pick, go take a look at all the drafts in Canucks history and look at our 2nd round picks. Other than Thatcher Demko, we've never hit big. Best ones after that? Michael Peca, David Scatchard, and Mason Raymond. The others aren't worth mentioning, or never even played 10 games in the NHL (though I do think Danila Klimovich is going to be a player). I'm more disappointed about the 5th rounder we traded away in that other trade. We actually hit on those. Adrian Aucoin, Gino Odjick, Kevin Bieksa, Scott Walker, Gustav Forsling, Ben Hutton, Adam Gaudette. Edited October 30, 2022 by Psycho_Path Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Even good in the faceoff dot, 6 pts in 6 games while Miller has 7 in 9. Seems like this luck never happens to us. Schmidt goes from a great defenceman in Vegas to trash with us to great in Winnipeg. Maybe Bear will be the one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV. Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Psycho_Path said: For all those complaining about us trading away our 2nd round pick, go take a look at all the drafts in Canucks history and look at our 2nd round picks. Other than Thatcher Demko, we've never hit big. Best ones after that? Michael Peca, David Scatchard, and Mason Raymond. The others aren't worth mentioning, or never even played 10 games in the NHL (though I do think Danila Klimovich is going to be a player). I'm more disappointed about the 5th rounder we traded away in that other trade. We actually hit on those. Adrian Aucoin, Gino Odjick, Kevin Bieksa, Scott Walker, Gustav Forsling, Ben Hutton, Adam Gaudette. That's not really the point. The point is, the management team came in and said that trading picks was not something they would want/could do, emphasizing this even more when it came to clearing out salary. Now, they're down a seemingly productive 3rd line C and a semi-high pick, while improvement in the standings has not been made. In any event, by your logic, it would be like me saying "Fans celebrating wins, go look at all the playoffs in Canucks history and look at our appearances. Other than 1982, 1994, and 2011, we've never come close to hitting big". Just because it hasn't yet happened (success with 2nds, or winning the Stanley Cup) doesn't mean it can't or won't happen. Keeping our picks, at minimum, gives us an opportunity to unearth that great player, and for where we are at, we should be looking to build our prospect pool. Edited October 30, 2022 by AV. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, coryberg said: Too bad for them bowman cleared their cupboards on the Jones trade before he slithered away into his forever cave. I don't feel bad for CHI cause they had recently won multiple cups, in the past decade. Right now, they are doing the same rebuilding formula to win more cups vs the retooling strategy, of the Canucks - which will not produce a cup... Edited October 30, 2022 by ShawnAntoski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 So we gave up a 2nd round pick to get rid of a player who is averaging a point per game on the other team. It’s almost like the Hockey Gods want us to suffer. A 3rd for Dermott. A 2nd to get rid of Dickinson. A 5th for Bear. It almost seems like Benning is still running the team. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 10 hours ago, Psycho_Path said: For all those complaining about us trading away our 2nd round pick, go take a look at all the drafts in Canucks history and look at our 2nd round picks. Other than Thatcher Demko, we've never hit big. Best ones after that? Michael Peca, David Scatchard, and Mason Raymond. The others aren't worth mentioning, or never even played 10 games in the NHL (though I do think Danila Klimovich is going to be a player). I'm more disappointed about the 5th rounder we traded away in that other trade. We actually hit on those. Adrian Aucoin, Gino Odjick, Kevin Bieksa, Scott Walker, Gustav Forsling, Ben Hutton, Adam Gaudette. That's a terrible way of looking at it. That's like saying because we've pretty pretty mediocre for the most part when it comes to drafting and developing our own talent that we should simply continue to trade away 2nd round picks instead of working to change that narrative. I've repeatedly emphasized that this club needs to address it's defense by using it's picks to draft and develop it's own D. The last D we drafted and developed who went on to become a top 4 D prior to Hughes was Edler. That's pretty awful. Only way to change that narrative is to prioritize drafting and developing our own D, holding on to our 2nd round picks more often and using them to draft D in a round more likely to produce NHL players would be a good place to start. We used to be a goalie graveyard but we managed to draft and develop both Schneider and Demko, we were also able to rehabilitate and develop Markstrom. Only way to change a negative narrative is to actually do so, it's not good enough to look at our history and be like "oh, well, we're shit at drafting players in the 2nd round we may as well give up on having success drafting there". 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 I'm sure if Dickinson was still with us he wouldn't be this good. We'd probably have him at 3C getting shelled nightly and he'd have about 2 points but rack up a hefty -8 by now. Watching him in Chicago he's looked really strong, but so has the whole team. He's basically getting 2nd line center minutes and playing all situations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV. Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: I'm sure if Dickinson was still with us he wouldn't be this good. We'd probably have him at 3C getting shelled nightly and he'd have about 2 points but rack up a hefty -8 by now. Watching him in Chicago he's looked really strong, but so has the whole team. He's basically getting 2nd line center minutes and playing all situations. Probably not, but at least we'd have our pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 17 hours ago, Warhippy said: Two things. 1. Dickinson was traded and PAID to be taken. He is now a ppg defensively smart 3rd line center at this stage of the season and people are rightfully shaking their heads at how this worked out. Another 2nd round pick gone to take an asset that is producing above his cap. Early in the season or not. That's frustrating no matter what camp you're in 2. That poster is entitled to their opinions and their right to post. They'll be involved in far less interactions with the mods than someone following them across multiple threads derailing the conversation to engage in personal issues. Just my two cents. My 2 cents, while that is true, he was not performing like that here and Stillman addresses the need our team has for some sandpaper. This may still turn out to be a win for both teams. Either way happy Dickinson has turned it around was a fan of his going back to his play with the Stars. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 2 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: I'm sure if Dickinson was still with us he wouldn't be this good. We'd probably have him at 3C getting shelled nightly and he'd have about 2 points but rack up a hefty -8 by now. Watching him in Chicago he's looked really strong, but so has the whole team. He's basically getting 2nd line center minutes and playing all situations. Chicago playing their guys above board right now waiting to sell them through the year at max or increased value to stealth tank for bedard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granpappy Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 hopefully we can get a 2nd back at the t deadline 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, granpappy said: hopefully we can get a 2nd back at the t deadline Is that the philosophy our owner is dictating though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granpappy Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 12 hours ago, Alflives said: Is that the philosophy our owner is dictating though? its a dream ... don't see much of anything we need that were getting from stillman. also, don't see us getting a 2nd for him but its not too big a dream is it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, granpappy said: its a dream ... don't see much of anything we need that were getting from stillman. also, don't see us getting a 2nd for him but its not too big a dream is it? Maybe the “Major” announcement today will be a statement about the philosophy to properly rebuild, and collect picks/prospects? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granpappy Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 22 hours ago, Alflives said: Maybe the “Major” announcement today will be a statement about the philosophy to properly rebuild, and collect picks/prospects? that ship has sailed. following the cup run, as i recall, we started the sh*t show by signign ryan miller. jb thought the team was still competitive when he took over ... him and aquillini ... and they kept it up, tossing mid round picks like they were monopoly money to pick up ineffective fillers. and then, the cherry on top, we give arizona a 1st pick to take on their oel contract (head in hand, shaking head).jb was a disaster, he wanted oel so bad. as it stands, i still think our so called core is pretty good, quite like;ly the most talent we have ever had at one time. the trouble, its well known, is we have no supporting cast ... all those 2nd, 3rd, etc round picks were meant to take care of that side of it. gotta blame aquillini as he didnt want to 'tear it down' and thought we could remain competitive during the rebuild or retool or whatever ... and jb for being his henchman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) 4th goal for Dickinson Edited November 4, 2022 by iinatcc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoastcanucks777 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 53 minutes ago, iinatcc said: 4th goal for Dickinson Darn he’s so good eh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 3:27 PM, canuck73_3 said: My 2 cents, while that is true, he was not performing like that here and Stillman addresses the need our team has for some sandpaper. This may still turn out to be a win for both teams. Either way happy Dickinson has turned it around was a fan of his going back to his play with the Stars. I think this only turns into a win for one team and it wont be ours. There have been very good players drafted in the second round lately. Could have grabbed a potential top 4 RHD like Chesley or Luneau went last year. All to move an asset that has a positive value now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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