"Michigan" goals should be against the rules

[Gurn]

Imo, these plays put the goalies in risk of getting dangerous injuries.

Watching Canada first tourney game, and the attempted Michigans' really risked facial or throat injuries to the goalie.

While it is a high skilled goal, to me the risk is too great.

I don't wish to see a player blinded, by the stick blade slipping through the mask, or a crushed larynx from the shaft of the stick during the follow through.

Edited December 29, 2022 by Gurn

[Nucker 67]

I really dislike these skill moves, turning hockey into lacrosse. Miss the good old days of heavy heavy slappers from the point. Does Sami Salo have a son who plays hockey?  

Edited December 29, 2022 by NUCKER67

[nuckin_futz]

Let the game police itself. If a team doesn't like their goalie being showed up or potentially injured, just send a guy out to clobber the offender. They'll get the message quickly.

 

It's worked pretty well for decades.

[-AJ-]

Personally, I just see it as the evolution of the game. I love seeing how players continue to push and advance the game and change it over the years. I imagine there was also a bit outcry at curved sticks when they were popularized in the 60s, but you don't see anyone complaining about them now.

 

The only way I see a Michigan being disallowed is if it's a "high stick" and the stick goes too high, in the same way knocking a puck down too high could happen.

[PetterssonOrPeterson]

i'm sure the roasts on the ice are glorious if a player tries it then misses. 

[Bounce000]

I think it’s easy enough to defend when you’re expecting it

[Drive-By Body Pierce]

[jatylo]

I would just add a goalie interference/high stick if the goalie gets hit by the blade negating the goal. That way only the ones that know they can pull it off attempt it

 

There's probably only a 5% chance successfully pulling off this move during game speed. If players want to waste their time during the entire practice that's on them

[Odd.]

Why should it be banned? It’s a high percentage play from behind the net, and probably the best chance of scoring from there. There’s many ways to defend it as well, and goalies are just as likely to get injured from an errant stick in the crease or a slap shot than from the Michigan move. 
 

If you’re skilled enough to do it, then do it. Nothing about it is illegal in Hockey terms. If the Michigan gets banned, then they’d have to ban tip in goals, batting pucks in mid air, as well as chipping pucks, basically anything that  interferes with the trajectory of the puck aerially other than blocking a shot.

[logic]

Don't ban it, but not punish the hitter for following thru on a guy who will likely be looking the other way

[DrJockitch]

It is not more dangerous than having a frozen hard rubber disc fired at you at 100. 
Fun police at work again.
In my day we shattered wooden sticks every hard shot and we’re happy about it.  Things change. 

Let’s not kill the skill. Too many rules have killed hitting what’s left if you start taking the skills out too. 

[iceman64]

As long as it's legal and it always has been as far as the rules were written. If players are good enough to pull it off then it should be left alone.

[Quantum]

The Michigan is a fun goal to watch. Players who pull it off seem to be having fun. The game needs more excitement and players showing off their personalities. It's part of the evolution of the game.

[Alflives]

3 minutes ago, Quantum said:

The Michigan is a fun goal to watch. Players who pull it off seem to be having fun. The game needs more excitement and players showing off their personalities. It's part of the evolution of the game.

It’s a selfish and stupid attempt.  Guys even try that craperolla and for sure they will get beat down, and by their own teammmates.  It’s not winning hockey.  It’s for the “look at me go mommy” baby whiners.  Biggest loser of them all, like Zegras.  Hate that play, and love seeing those guys lose and get their faces rearranged.  

Unless, of course, it’s done by a Canuck.  Then it’s Cool!  

[BabychStache]

I like it. It’s high risk and exciting. Like a goalie charging out against a breakaway. 
 

im waiting for the glass to get extended and make a bubble. Really speed things up. 

[Kevin Biestra]

I don't think it's that risky for goalies, just embarrassing.  Meanwhile you had Keith Ballard decapitating his own goalie with a post-goal tantrum.

 

Rules like high sticking is okay if it's on the follow through from a shot (the most damaging high stick to a face possible) are more dangerous for players.  Granted it's hard to control your stick in that situation but there is zero tolerance for puck over the glass, goalie handling the puck in forbidden areas, etc.

[Kevin Biestra]

19 hours ago, Alflives said:

It’s a selfish and stupid attempt.  Guys even try that craperolla and for sure they will get beat down, and by their own teammmates.  It’s not winning hockey.  It’s for the “look at me go mommy” baby whiners.  Biggest loser of them all, like Zegras.  Hate that play, and love seeing those guys lose and get their faces rearranged.

Unless, of course, it’s done by a Canuck.  Then it’s Cool!  

 

I don't think it's that selfish.  If you're behind the net with the puck, a wrap around is a low percentage move, maybe the biggest stinkeroo a goalie can allow other than a Lidstrom shot from center ice.  I wonder what the stats are with Michigan goal attempts, and especially by skilled players.

[King Heffy]

It's fun to watch and the onus should be on the defence to prevent it.  If the league is that concerned about safety, mandate the Hasek/Irbe style cages.

[Alflives]

16 minutes ago, Kevin Biestra said:

 

I don't think it's that selfish.  If you're behind the net with the puck, a wrap around is a low percentage move, maybe the biggest stinkeroo a goalie can allow other than a Lidstrom shot from center ice.  I wonder what the stats are with Michigan goal attempts, and especially by skilled players.

Super selfish move.  Keep the puck and take a hit to make a proper play.  We will soon see it disappear from the NHL.  Zegras is the worst for it too.  And how good is his club responding to his selfishness?  Joke player.  

[Kevin Biestra]

6 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Super selfish move.  Keep the puck and take a hit to make a proper play.  We will soon see it disappear from the NHL.  Zegras is the worst for it too.  And how good is his club responding to his selfishness?  Joke player.  

 

Selfish is skating in on an empty net and roofing the puck.  It looks better but decreases the odds of a goal and you get situations like...was it Patrik Stefan who flipped it right over the net and then the other team went the other way and scored...

 

The Michigan goal is hot dogging it but not without a purpose.