Darius Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 This guy is high on Raty, says if Horvat doesnt sign it could be Lou's all time worst trade 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) 59 minutes ago, stawns said: I'm happy with Raty as the main piece, but they should have gotten a dman back, not a small winger. I'm not sure, but I think they've already got one of those Why do we all just assume this is the end of the line. What if AB is moved for the dman? Or we use the Islanders pick to fetch a young Dman like they did last year? All we did we create more opportunities to do what needs to be done...We shouldnt be complaining. It's not a 1 trade fix Edited January 31, 2023 by Mustard Tiger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Warhippy said: It's kinda hard repeating the same things over and over For years, the core assets of need for this team have been the following RHD RHC Picks/Prospects of all types Cap space Aside from Raty who is being sent directly to Abby and a protected pick this year or sliding to next. What has been addressed? Raty may not play up here at all this year; which is actually a good thing. That pick while good is only one pick. We added cap by taking a LW back on a single year deal and addressed none of the needs of RHD or RHC that have plagued this team for over a decade. Again, it's ok to be meh about this or feel underwhelmed but in no way does it check the boxes of most dire and essential need. The "one pick" will likely be a mid rd first in a strong draft, which is most likely the best possible pick we were ever going to land. Having a preference for a RHC does not change the fact that our pool was in desperate need of ANY legit center prospects, and Raty was likely the best or at least one of the best available. Not being able to weaponize cap space sucks, but if if we play our cards right and inflate Beau's numbers over the next year and change, we could theoretically retain 50% at next year's deadline and move him for something of value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, AnthonyG said: Okay now lets lay out a very possible hypothetical scenario here Another possible scenario is that NYI miss the playoffs this year and keep their pick. But maybe they also struggle next year in 2023/24, especially if Horvat doesn't re-sign, even sinking to the bottom! Good thing the Canucks have their unprotected 1st pick in 2024 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ilduce39 said: Honestly, Millers little on-ice tanties aside, he sure looks like the one more committed to this franchise. Bo and management have had that, “soon to be divorced” feel for awhile. Since miller signed his deal, yes. However Bo said in the summer and even this season he'd thought he'd be a Canuck for his career. Edited January 31, 2023 by stawns 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoGuitar Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, awalk said: Is it unprotected in 2024? Like if they suck and pick top 5, we get that? Only protected in 2023, if it slides it become unprotected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Warhippy said: OK Mr Smarm. Traded for Gudbranson, so he was obviously top 4 right? Boy, our D has struggled for awhile now (Both Guddy and Sbisa played well enough, on other teams in particular, in proper roles.) Edited January 31, 2023 by ilduce39 Oops comma in the wrong spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerofaith Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 37 minutes ago, The Lock said: Come on dude. If you're going to have a name of "Zerofaith" and literally make zero faith accusations, it's obvious what you're doing and I can't take you seriously like... at all. lol It’s just a username dummy, way to attach meaning to make yourself feel better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, Mustard Tiger said: Why do we all just assume this is the end of the line. What if AB is moved for the dman? Or we use the Islanders pick to fetch a young Dman like they did last year? All we did we create more opportunities to do what needs to be done...We shouldnt be complaining. It's not a 1 trade fix You think someone is taking AB and his $4.1m deal for his 35 points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, Elias Pettersson said: He's a pretty good bet to be a 3C. Everyone wanted to trade BO for picks and prospects. That's exactly what we did. And we weakened our team considerably so we can go full on tank hard for Bedard. The fact that some people are upset about this is quite strange given all the of tank for Bedard and rebuild talk that's been going on around here these past few weeks... Maybe, but we had this conversation yesterday regarding betting on prospects, potential is just potential until it's not. We'll see, he'll get a chance to show what he can do in Abbotsford in the meantime. Sure, but folks are allowed to be underwhelmed. Raty is fine, I suggested him as a piece we could acquire months ago. I'm disappointed we couldn't grab a D prospect though, Beauvillier makes the trade a bit underwhelming for me. I'm pretty meh about him, we'll see. Lot of people wanted to keep Horvat, I was one of them. There are many of us who will, and have argued that we kept the wrong guy. This is a big move, and not just in terms of assets going either way. It's big in a lot of ways and people are going to react to that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostsOf1994 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, stawns said: I'd say a number of people are unhappy with a top 12 protected pick What team lower in the standings would have had the same type of package in return for Bo? Nashville Philly Florida Detroit Ottawa St louis Montreal Canucks San jose arizona Anaheim Chicago Columbus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, Ghostsof1915 said: Yes, but what are the odds of that? Better than a lot of teams firsts. Apparently people didn’t think Ottawa would finish bottom 5 in the Duchene trade (including Ottawa) Sure the odds are against that happening, but of all the teams that were willing to give up a 1st, they’d be the team I could see dropping in standings next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, kilgore said: As another poster said Bo could have taken the 6.5 x 8 and been a multi millionaire living the good life on the west coast with his family. He chose to hold out for the big bucks. people complain that Miller was signed before Bo, but in a way how this all went down is on Bo himself Why did Bo wait until his contract year to step it up? Miller played hard last season and was in the same contract position. He could have waited till this season too. It kind of makes me a little peaved off frankly to see how much better Bo could have been the last number of years if he’d have given 100% all along. Miller stepped it up last season, while Bo played out the season accumulating roughly half the points of JT. Surprise surprise… Miller was valued more and signed first. It’s almost like the perfect plan for a player who wants out, by putting his GM in a hands tied situation by playing himself out of affordability by inflating his numbers in his contract year. On a cash strapped team. Where has this Bo been? If he’d have put in more effort last season, he’d have been signed, and JT traded. Simple as that. Speculation the Canucks offered 6.5... no one knows. And Bo had 31 goals last season... 1 goal behind Miller and Pettersson. Bo has been placed in the #2 Center position throughout his career... has been expected to be a checking center rather than a scorer at even strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rychicken Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Harold Drunken said: Yeah but those are the same type of people that if handed a bag of $100 bills they would complian about the weight.... plastic bag and the environmentalists would be very upset 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, mll said: Can't see Horvat walk. They have 1 month to sign him or they can trade him further. Friedman wondered about NYI earlier today on his podcast. On an earlier podcast he said that Lamoriello told him years ago that you don't trade for rentals unless you are really positive this is your year. Doubt Lamoriello thinks NYI has a chance this season so the trade is likely in prevision for next season. NYI is 10th in their conference at 0.529 while Wildcard 2 is at .582. That's quite some ground to cover and NYI doesn't have games in hand. Has this every happened before? I've watched hockey for a long time, and I don't ever remember a player getting traded twice in the same trade deadline... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolexSub Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 17 minutes ago, Isam said: They got that they think won't make it 13 So if we don't get a better than 12th pick overall, will we get more compensation from the Islanders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, RolexSub said: So if we don't get a better than 12th pick overall, will we get more compensation from the Islanders? Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Antonio Beauvillier... Mayhe he thinks he's Italian and got the token guy for Aquilini... Haha Hey remember our Horvat battle a few months ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyGuy123 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 What if Bo misses Vancouver after this move and decides his best move is to come back with his family. He is a UFA Canuck nation where for the most part he was handed the keys to the city. Say he resigns here we just lost Bo for 40 games and gained all these assets. I’m sure his wife loves it here and has friends, this is not out of the question if we move money out and offer him what he wants. We already have the inside edge and his heart I’m sure. Plus these assets. At this current time it wasn’t possible but by July 1st it’s still a possibility. He will get the C again and no doubt that will be part of the negotiation, wait until the off-season as it is legal to do so. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Beauvillier makes the trade a bit underwhelming for me. Sea of Granlunds type ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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