Alflives Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Junkyard Dog said: You see a guy like Karlsson who's 6'1" 180lbs but plays a lot bigger than his size, excels below the hash marks, isn't afraid to mix it up between whistles as evident from his coaches remarks/penalty minutes and uses his smarts to be an effective player. Who as a rookie is leading our AHL team in goal scoring. Yup. It’s good to have several guys competing for jobs on the big club. The key core players (Demko, Petey, Hughes, Miller, Hronek) have their spots and we are trying to retool the supporting cast. All those younger guys are competing for those spots and trying to push out the players (in those spots right now) on the big club. It’s super important for our club to have this internal competition. The younger players need to learn this is not junior or college. This is the NHL, jobs are worth a lot of money, and even your teammates aren’t necessarily your best friends off the ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 On 3/16/2023 at 1:11 PM, HomeBrew said: Then I would suggest that you weren't really paying attention when it happened tbf. In fairness CDC lost their collective shit losing Corrado, MacEwen and Gadjovich respectively and even if you combined their stats since they left they wouldn't even muster up a well below mediocre career. So I don't think CDC is an accurate judgement of player movement to be fair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, VancouverHabitant said: Karlsson looks way bigger then 6'1 All the listings are way off IMO. I feel like websites get the measurements from a few years ago and then just rehash them year after year. Canucks AHL/NHL listing of Karlsson and McDonough are different than Elite Prospects and are probably up to date. They have Karlsson at 6'1" 178lbs whereas Elite Prospects have him at 1 lbs heavier. Canucks have McDonough at 6'3" 190 whereas Elite Prospects have him at 6'2" 201 lbs. I think Karlsson has a long reach for his size which would make him look bigger. He also plays bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Junkyard Dog said: Canucks AHL/NHL listing of Karlsson and McDonough are different than Elite Prospects and are probably up to date. They have Karlsson at 6'1" 178lbs whereas Elite Prospects have him at 1 lbs heavier. Canucks have McDonough at 6'3" 190 whereas Elite Prospects have him at 6'2" 201 lbs. I think Karlsson has a long reach for his size which would make him look bigger. He also plays bigger. Rathbone recently said that he thought McDonough has grown and is probably 6'3" or 6'4" now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, canuck73_3 said: In fairness CDC lost their collective shit losing Corrado, MacEwen and Gadjovich respectively and even if you combined their stats since they left they wouldn't even muster up a well below mediocre career. So I don't think CDC is an accurate judgement of player movement to be fair. I'm definitely one of those that lost my shit when we put Corrado on waivers... To be fair to Frankie though, Toronto definitely didn't help his development by keeping him benched for over a month. Edit: I will also never forgive the defensive disaster that is Ryan Murphy getting named to the WJC over Corrado Edited March 21, 2023 by Diamonds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said: Rathbone recently said that he thought McDonough has grown and is probably 6'3" or 6'4" now. Perhaps that was from 6’2” to 6’3”. He was listed at 6’2” prior to Canucks measurements of him which looks like were made recently. Edited March 21, 2023 by Junkyard Dog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinkil42 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 3 hours ago, canuck73_3 said: In fairness CDC lost their collective shit losing Corrado, MacEwen and Gadjovich respectively and even if you combined their stats since they left they wouldn't even muster up a well below mediocre career. So I don't think CDC is an accurate judgement of player movement to be fair. This was more about a team that wasn't a contender losing assets for no return. Losing 2 players during training camp isn't great regardless of those players careers. It's a bit of a meme now but there is truth that benning's assest management was terrible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hinkil42 said: This was more about a team that wasn't a contender losing assets for no return. Losing 2 players during training camp isn't great regardless of those players careers. It's a bit of a meme now but there is truth that benning's assest management was terrible. Yeah except they’re worthless assets that would only return worthless assets. So losing them for nothing was able to free up a contract spot for other players that could be something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) On 3/21/2023 at 2:14 PM, Junkyard Dog said: Canucks AHL/NHL listing of Karlsson and McDonough are different than Elite Prospects and are probably up to date. They have Karlsson at 6'1" 178lbs whereas Elite Prospects have him at 1 lbs heavier. Canucks have McDonough at 6'3" 190 whereas Elite Prospects have him at 6'2" 201 lbs. I think Karlsson has a long reach for his size which would make him look bigger. He also plays bigger. Tale of the tape once had Bieksa at 6'3" 225lbs lol...I'm not even sure he is six feet tall. Vernon was listed at 5'9 ... he's 5'7" (admitted it once his career was over). These guys don't look so big even on skates, once you go see them live. Demko yes he's a big tall boy. Who cares anyways, Taylor Pyatt versus Wendel Clark? Who you going to take. Chris Chelios or Bryan Allen? If they can play, then can play. Edited March 28, 2023 by IBatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 why is CDC going nuts over a fringe 4th liner who likely isnt even a longterm nhler on a contending team, again? Aquaman marketing and media team has some of you wrapped around their fingers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 50 minutes ago, EddieVedder said: why is CDC going nuts over a fringe 4th liner who likely isnt even a longterm nhler on a contending team, again? Aquaman marketing and media team has some of you wrapped around their fingers. Surely your ability to see the future could be better utilized in ways that aren’t complaining about made up scenarios on a hockey forum, right ? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Last game he came close to scoring.I think the team was trying to get him a goal.Hioe he gets one as that would be sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeBrew Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 On 3/21/2023 at 10:56 AM, canuck73_3 said: In fairness CDC lost their collective shit losing Corrado, MacEwen and Gadjovich respectively and even if you combined their stats since they left they wouldn't even muster up a well below mediocre career. So I don't think CDC is an accurate judgement of player movement to be fair. Whether or not a prospect amounts to anything in the end is irrelevant to people caring about losing them - which was the point being made. Nobody is claiming that CDC is collectively accurate when it comes to anything other than sentiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 11:56 AM, EddieVedder said: why is CDC going nuts over a fringe 4th liner who likely isnt even a longterm nhler on a contending team, again? Aquaman marketing and media team has some of you wrapped around their fingers. Because if you take 15 swings like this, you eventually find a Burrows, Bieksa, or Tanev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, eeeeergh said: Because if you take 15 swings like this, you eventually find a Burrows, Bieksa, or Tanev Bieksa was drafted... Burrows, Stetcher or Tavev. The logic is correct though. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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