Rocket-68 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Let's assume that PA puts in a claim and he becomes a Canuck. What are the rules on waiving a player just picked up off of waivers? Could the Canucks waive him in September if for some reason they didn't clear enough cap space to carry him on the books - setting aside the "where in the depth chart does Z-man fit" for a moment? This is a hypothetical whereby PA puts in a claim and then figures out what to do with him later. Yes, spending Aquaman's money like a drunken sailor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Petey Castiglione said: Hey Bob, I spent some time trying to find explanations about these charts but only came across baseball WAR charts. Any chance you got something like that laying around? Appreciate the stats you post and want to better understand what we're looking at. Cheers. 3 hours ago, Bob.Loblaw said: I think it's also important to understand what the % relates to. It's not strictly 'wins above replacement' anymore, now that it is a % figure. Wins above replacement used to compare a player to a 'replacement level' player (e.g. a 13th forward or 7th Dman on league minimum salary). But now with the % figure it is actually a ranking against all players in the league. So as an example, if a forward has a ranking of 35% in a particular stat (let's say G/60, which is even strength goals per 60 minutes), it might show as red, which looks bad on a chart. But it just means that 65% of all forwards in the league score more G/60 than that player. This is not necessarily bad because you have to consider their role in the team and their deployment. Lots of players we don't expect them to have a high G/60 because that's not their role. Probably the most important thing is not whether someone has a high WAR ranking, but whether that the player is proficient in the role that you have them playing in and that you are paying them a salary in line with that contribution. For example, you can accept that a 4th line player on league minimum salary would have one of the lowest G/60 on your roster (and therefore in the league) but you wouldn't want that for a guy earning $6m who is playing on your top line. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Crazy how he failed to develop. He looked so amazing at the world juniors in his draft year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 49 minutes ago, Rocket-68 said: Let's assume that PA puts in a claim and he becomes a Canuck. What are the rules on waiving a player just picked up off of waivers? Could the Canucks waive him in September if for some reason they didn't clear enough cap space to carry him on the books - setting aside the "where in the depth chart does Z-man fit" for a moment? This is a hypothetical whereby PA puts in a claim and then figures out what to do with him later. Yes, spending Aquaman's money like a drunken sailor. Yes but could only move 1M to minors if he clears so almost $1M dead cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 53 minutes ago, KirkSave said: Correct me if I am wrong but was not Ken Holland the GM in Det when this pick was made? Yes he was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 1 hour ago, KirkSave said: Correct me if I am wrong but was not Ken Holland the GM in Det when this pick was made? I believe that is correct. I think that was Holland’s last year in Detroit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertaNuck Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkSave Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said: I believe that is correct. I think that was Holland’s last year in Detroit. oof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 19 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said: I believe that is correct. I think that was Holland’s last year in Detroit. That’s what made the Oilers say he is our guy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Forget about claiming this guy we have to trade for Detroit Red Wings LD prospect Wallinder so we can have a future pairing of.. Wallinder Willander 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Canucks could have both Hughes and Zadina. That would be funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 50 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said: Forget about claiming this guy we have to trade for Detroit Red Wings LD prospect Wallinder so we can have a future pairing of.. Wallinder Willander To compliment Pettersson and Pettersson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertaNuck Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, stawns said: To compliment Pettersson and Pettersson And Hughes Hughes Hughes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babalu Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Rocket-68 said: Let's assume that PA puts in a claim and he becomes a Canuck. What are the rules on waiving a player just picked up off of waivers? Could the Canucks waive him in September if for some reason they didn't clear enough cap space to carry him on the books - setting aside the "where in the depth chart does Z-man fit" for a moment? This is a hypothetical whereby PA puts in a claim and then figures out what to do with him later. Yes, spending Aquaman's money like a drunken sailor. If they claim him off waivers and waive him again Detroit has the right to claim him back and assign him to the minors without going through waivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, babalu said: If they claim him off waivers and waive him again Detroit has the right to claim him back and assign him to the minors without going through waivers. That’s only if there are no claims from anyone ahead of them on the priority list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YearoftheNuck Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 9 hours ago, Toyotasfan said: Detroit is in full tank mode, I feel sorry for Larkin and Seider wasting the prime years of their careers. Yeah I feel like they did Larkin dirty… almost immediately after resigned with them they began trading away talent, namely Hronek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Man you think a team that wants to tank would grab this guy. The Yotes and Hawks come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Would the Red Wings have any interest in Myers with all of their cap space. We take the two years of Zadina and they take Myers and keep him or flip him. Myers could be a good vet for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 hour ago, cripplereh said: Man you think a team that wants to tank would grab this guy. The Yotes and Hawks come to mind. ... San Jose, Anaheim, Montreal, Columbus, st Louis, Philadelphia, Washington. All before us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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