Junkyard Dog Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Just now, Chris12345 said: And Loui or someone else gets bumped which makes the team deeper. I just don't think he's a difference maker but who knows. I was wrong before. I think the difference will show when Brock's back and we have a full lineup. Motte/Leivo will be back in that time too. People are gonna take it one way or another but I am gonna wait till then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 51 minutes ago, redhdlois said: Madden just broke a Finger and is out for approx 3 weeks, so the Hobey Baker hopes are probably over. They should have been anyways. Jordan Kawaguchi deserves to win it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 minute ago, wai_lai416 said: Ah I didnt see it yet. I guess its not too bad if he re-signs but if he doesnt... then it would be a terrible trade in a season that we ain't going going for the cup They're going for the Cup every single season. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: He can still do so! Wow he can hit us with the reverse uno. What if Madden is the one that doesn't sign with the Kings lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -Vintage Canuck- Posted February 18, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2020 33 minutes ago, MikeyD said: Can we all just agree, that this forum has the dumbest spot for signings? Why the hell is this in "around the nhl" and not under Canucks talk? The organization in these forums are bunk. All threads related to transactions (trades, signings) have always been posted in the “Trades, Rumours, Signings” forum, whether it is Canucks related or not. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VforVasili Posted February 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2020 I think something folks are missing is this is a player who is excellent on defense and has tons of playoffs experience. Those are both things that Benning puts a high value on for a complementary piece. 2 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Just now, J-23 said: Wow he can hit us with the reverse uno. What if Madden is the one that doesn't sign with the Kings lol. It’s happened before. College players can be sketchy. We’ve been lucky with ours so far! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazurus Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 minute ago, rychicken said: Now JB has 161 hours to upgrade the defence How and with what? By putting all those players on LTIR, I don't think they can be traded. Just looked at next season's cap, 18 mil of cap space that's with a 5% increase from the players Players with expiring contracts; Tanev Markstrom Stecher Tofoli Virtanen Leivo Gaudette MacEwen Those are just the more notable guys and they will cost a lot more than 18 mil even with a discount And then there is Demko, Pettersson and Hughes If Ferland was healthy when they signed him, IMO a mistake due to his major concussion history, If they had drafted Tkchuk instead of Juloevi, then they didn't need to sign Ferland If, if , if. it seems a lot of moves now are due to poor ones made before. This is the team, it doesn't look bad at all except it is old, as old as the last good team that was here just before it's decline, the team that Benning said needed to get younger. If they make the playoffs they will be playing a team that has been given incentive to load up and those teams are younger and deeper with experience together. Sure hope nothing happens to Markstrom now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specz Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I didn't think we had enough to get Toffoli, dude is a really good player. But damn I'd be lying if I said I wasn't excited for Madden to be a player. I'm on the fence on this one, hoping this gamble pays off and hope he signs. Otherwise, I will be very sad to lose Madden for nothing... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: Must of been their confidence at C already and the fact that Hog/Pod have him beat at wing in the top 6. Also has to pack on weight. He ain't no Petey. Vancouver would be hard for him to crack since he would have to be top 6 or nothing. Need grit in that bottom 6 no more buttery soft guys. Imagine a guy Maddens size during the Kings' 2 cup wins. He'd have been murdered in the playoffs. Skill is more important than size, but the Kings won 2 cups based on beating players on more than the scoreboard and players like Pearson and Toffoli playing a hard, tough and big game helped achieve that. Madden might turn out to be an amazing player, I actually like him a lot. But I just look at the last 8 cup winners and really, that heavy game is essential. With Horvat, Gaudette, Pettersson etc etc etc already slotted in to the centre position for the next 5 years or more he was either a winger or trade bait unless he forced his way in. I love Madden I just couldn't and cannot see that happening. Nor could I see him being as effective as we'd need in the playoffs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 16 minutes ago, rychicken said: Now JB has 161 hours to upgrade the defence I got a feeling we are getting Dillon!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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canutecanuck Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Nuxfanabroad said: I'll guess Brock might be dealt to Minny, in the off-season. Take back picks, to open cap. Toffoli, Jake..Lind & Pod as well. RW is getting deep. For the right deal back from the Wild it wouldn't be a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lazurus said: How and with what? By putting all those players on LTIR, I don't think they can be traded. Just looked at next season's cap, 18 mil of cap space that's with a 5% increase from the players Players with expiring contracts; Tanev Markstrom Stecher Tofoli Virtanen Leivo Gaudette MacEwen Those are just the more notable guys and they will cost a lot more than 18 mil even with a discount And then there is Demko, Pettersson and Hughes If Ferland was healthy when they signed him, IMO a mistake due to his major concussion history, If they had drafted Tkchuk instead of Juloevi, then they didn't need to sign Ferland If, if , if. it seems a lot of moves now are due to poor ones made before. This is the team, it doesn't look bad at all except it is old, as old as the last good team that was here just before it's decline, the team that Benning said needed to get younger. If they make the playoffs they will be playing a team that has been given incentive to load up and those teams are younger and deeper with experience together. Sure hope nothing happens to Markstrom now. Players on the LTIR can be traded but it has to be disclosed (Evander Kane, Chris Pronger). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I have been saying for months that Madden is the main expendable prospect we had. Not sure Toffoli was the guy to spend it on, but with Boeser and Ferland out we did need to get a scoring winger. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Virtanen#18 said: I got a feeling we are getting Dillon!! Virtanen/Rafferty/Juolevi/Tryamkin FTFY We don't need to be spenders I believe beyond what has already occurred in the last year Edited February 18, 2020 by Warhippy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Virtanen#18 said: I got a feeling we are getting Dillon!! What would you offer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FlyLow_ Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 15 minutes ago, samurai said: Stay calm and enjoy the push for a playoff spot. The canucks goal is the playoffs - its kind of like living day to day. That's great, but I don't have to care about that goal. If we aren't able to re-sign the players we need to or Toffoli walks this is a disaster. First round exit or not. This team goes nowhere with this defense. If they were going to do something it should have been packaging Stecher for an upgrade on D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhdlois Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Imagine a guy Maddens size during the Kings' 2 cup wins. He'd have been murdered in the playoffs. Skill is more important than size, but the Kings won 2 cups based on beating players on more than the scoreboard and players like Pearson and Toffoli playing a hard, tough and big game helped achieve that. Madden might turn out to be an amazing player, I actually like him a lot. But I just look at the last 8 cup winners and really, that heavy game is essential. With Horvat, Gaudette, Pettersson etc etc etc already slotted in to the centre position for the next 5 years or more he was either a winger or trade bait unless he forced his way in. I love Madden I just couldn't and cannot see that happening. Nor could I see him being as effective as we'd need in the playoffs Yep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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