smithers joe

this is not my proposal. i want to keep BO. i would want no less than a top 4 rd as part of a package and would prefer it was JT moved instead. it is all about what teams are willing to give up in a trade.

Just saw this article at MyHockeyNow saying the same thing https://nyihockeynow.com/new-york-islanders-bo-hovat-vancouver-canucks-trade-rumors-lamoriello-alvvin/

Their suggestion wouldn't be a good return at all, and thinking it has to be at a minimum:

Horvat for Mayfield, Raty and a 2nd.  Maybe VAN retains some of Bo's salary this season.

Bailey hasn't played very well and center's aren't their issue, but they could slot one over to the wing. What the Isles need is a scoring infusion on the wing, maybe Miller? 

I do think they'd be a good trading partner, they're playing good hockey and that core of theirs isn't getting any younger. Either Miller or Horvat could be the sort of player they add to try and go on a few runs. 

would have been Dickinson. 

I would waive Pearson and see what shakes. 

If we’re claiming Jost then I’d put Stillman on waivers. 

Pearson should get you something at the trade deadline. Even a 4th round pick. He's perfect for the playoffs. Stillman should be sent to Abbotsford and work on his game. He's terrible. 

Hmm, Bieksa was around a bit longer than Salo but it's a fair question. Maybe Bieksa's more of a maybe too. It's tough to say where the line is. 

The only guy I'd say is a slam dunk at this point is Edler, I dunno how they don't get Edler in there. He was here longer than Ohlund and holds many Canuck records for D. 

Eddy, for sure should be in, and I'd also say Juice should be in the ring above Kes and Salo. Can't really find the words to explain it, but he's made more of a longstanding impact for me than 17 and 6, plus he signed the 1 day to retire a Canuck. He's never really left the city.

I wouldn't be surprised if they signed Eddy to a 1 day when he's finally ready to hang them up. Maybe they go in the ring together.

@Ghostsof1915  Not his fault either accepting that offer sheet from Booby Clarke as well but it left the team in a bit of a bind.  *HOWEVER* Kesler never just 'mailed it in' on games so it's a tough call from my POV.

No. 10 years of retool and we have a garbage team.

It's over Joe. 

Tell Aqua it's time

No

Miller and Kuzmenko are legit.  Mikheyev is also legit but can't be relied on as a top 6 winger every night. Boeser is too slow and Garland is too small.  Podkolzin and Hoglander are still not fully developed so still have question marks.  Pearson is a 3rd liner and will be gone after next year.  We do have Klimovich, Karlsson, Lekkerimaki and McDonough waiting in the wings so we have lots of youth coming up.  So I would concentrate on getting more centres, especially if BO is gone.

 Sabres aren’t doin to good lately. It’s pretty sludgy for either team. Win or lose.  Both teams swirling around the bottom of the barrel. 

I think the hiring of Yeo indicted that winning wasn't a priority.

@King HeffyI’m really starting to think yeo is the problem. One would think the players would try as hard as possible to avoid the possibility of him stepping in. But I lean towards Rutherfords comment of already having to continue to pay for green and the what’s left of BBs contract. Add a 3rd coach’s salary. Doesn’t make to much sense, a new coach isn’t going to magically change this train wreck. Ride BB out I’m sure by the end of it he’ll want out anyway. 

Where do you draw the line if that's your definition?

Tell that to Toronto and Edmonton.

That's just it, where do you draw the line?

Who decides, when to change direction of your club. and needing new players?

I agree, it shouldn't be allowed but din't think you can administrate it...

All those bad contracts that Mike Gillis saddled JR with.

Rourke got many fans excited about the CFL again, especially some younger ones.

Bombers offensive and defensive lines were way to big and strong for the Lions.  Rourke is the best thing to happen in the CFL in a long long time.  Wonder if an NFL team takes a run at him in the offseason.

Totally agree Joe.  We need a clearly stated plan and direction.  Would be great if our owner and JR held a presser where JR stated the plan and our owner openly supported it.  

Give it 10 more games, and if we continue this trend, our season is officially done.  Just looked at capfriendly, and buying out pearson and poolman actually makes sense.  you end up saving a few million in cap space tho with poolman, you'd basically get the same just sending him to play in the minors and not having the double term caphit.  Myers isn't worth it, but you could retain 3 million and he's a trade chip again.  Worth it for one year.  OEL, we're stuck with barring him actually retiring.  Yet another Swede who has a retirement contract in vancouver, much like eriksson.  You eat that and try mitigate the damage with his ...intangibles playing in the press box or 3rd pairing.  We're now 3 years away from anything worth mentioning because of Jim Bennings terrible trade.  I'd look squarely at ownership for that.  There are no shortcuts, only death by a thousand paper cuts with the way this team has been managed.

The Canucks “team” disappeared. Now we’re left with Canucks “individuals”.

He threw a dart as his Boudreau dartboard 

wake me when he figures out what's wrong with this team and does something about it.

We need a president that can oversee a rebuild, he's simply the wrong fit but that seems to be inline with ownerships dysfunction.  Wrong fits everywhere.

Yup.  I think we have some excellent players, but need to play a lot smarter, especially when Demko is struggling.  

Time for action.

Spot on...

Talk is cheap. Throwing coaches under the bus in public is pathetic. 

A lot of talk has been done, and it looks like they are clueless, changing direction every 6 months. 

They did, or maybe Montreal took the foot of the gas...

Really disappointing showing...

Many of us (me included) snickered when Ron Francis and his staff selected a flock of nobodies in expansion. Going into season two of their existence, 14 players taken in the expansion draft are on the Seattle roster. Seattle did a particularly good job drafting defencemen, with six of their top seven taken at expansion. Vegas, on the other hand has only four original draftees, preferring instead to trade and sign marquee guys. So Vegas is all flash and dazzle while Seattle is quietly building a competitive team and looking to build through the draft (they have ALL of their draft picks for the next three years, plus six more they've acquired through trades). 

But to answer your question, no, Seattle doesn't have a better selection of players, but they have 23 guys committed to pulling in the same direction and believing in what their coach is telling them. So does Vancouver but they haven't put all the pieces together yet. Vegas may win more over the next couple of years, but Seattle looks to be in it for the long haul.

Seattle had 31 GMs helping them. Vancouver right now has 32 GMs working against us 

Like one that gives me hope 

Depends because then you sell assets hard for Defence help

jim needs to go

we need 0 years more of his tripe

Horvat needs Miller

Petey needs a digger

Miller needs 1 passer and 1 shooter both with speed and size

I put my scooter awayyyyyy! 

thinking of checking out the skiing in Smithers this year, whats the road like up there from Vancouver in winter? 

Johnson *MIGHT* have value at the trading deadline mainly because his contract ends this season.  Boeser *ONLY* thing of value is that he's not old.  He's injury-prone & being paid for what he might do (rather what he's done).  Has nothing to do with not thinking outside the box.  A shame really because he's a real stand-up guy.  Solid character.  Unfortunately that doesn't help any professional hockey team in the wins/losses because if he's not scoring, he's useless on the ice imho.

well, color me clueless? 

@Petey_BOI  nah, heck we can *BOTH* be wrong.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

We can only hope, I think.

Yes.

Joe Smithers is Marlon Brando????

how about pettersson and podkolzin.?

mcdonough 3rd line center

miller traded at deadline for a good d-man, a pick and a d-man prospect.

would this be a good start for a rebuild?

Hopefully miller is gone by then and we have some random NPCs skating with Bedard while the team rebuilds properly.

I could see the jersey play by play announcers being happy about not having to pronounce second guys name especially with the joisey accent. 

i don't know how good they will be in the nhl but our pool of defensemen isn't very good. prospects closer to playing is better than waiting 5 years for them to play. any young rupert boys that can play defense?

There is a young goalie playin college  back east from here.