smithers joe

What do you think of the JT deal, Joe!

6 mil x 8 years. 

No-brainer for both sides.  JT left a bit on the table for the rest of the guys.  Bo could probably squeeze out a few mil more on the free agent market but if he signs for 6 then we're looking at a team that's leaving 10% behind to improve on the next guy.  

i'm happy they resigned JT. i'll worry about the latter years when they come.

hoglander for sandin? is that better?

Nothing, He's a bust

Dickinson for Sandin would be great!  Lose an overpaid forward that's viewed as a bad contract for an aggressive defenseman and shed cap.

Probably because he could get additional 2x 8.25 on the contract. 
He may even still retire at 37, if he falls off a cliff edge. But players want as much as they can, unless there are outside reasons for them to take less. 
Sedins as they wanted to remain in VCR and probably didn't fancy being seperated. Some players wanna 'come home' (Garrison/Hamhuus) etc. 

Don't think that is Miller unfortunately, as he has been around and seen what youngsters are being paid straight from the go... probably a little envious even. But it would be great if that was the out come. 

8.25-8.5 x 7 years would be more than fair, and (IMHAO) more than JT will get as a UFA July 2023.

Trouble is if we sign JT to that number then Bo is traded, because we have Petey to sign in two years and he’s going to be close to 10 per. 

He ended up settling at $8 million x 7. Not too bad a guess, all things considered.

Schneider, a 1st, and perhaps one of Kravtsov or Kakko. 
 

Otherwise screw that. 

@Odd. I'd be happy with any two pieces from that offer.

Kaako Schneider and a protected 1st or 2nd otherwise sign & keep him or trade him as a rental

That would be viewed as cap circumvention if they got caught setting up the handshake deal.

Yeah, no way they could explicitly pre-plan a deal like that without getting punished for cap circumvention.

It would be cool to get Arber Xhekaj into our system. Not just because of his surname but because we could use another young (under 23) d-man in the system.

That said, I don't think they'll part with either because they have a similar goalie in their system at the same age in Cayden Primeau -- who, like DiPEtro, could probably use a change of scenery.

A more likely scenario would be maybe be a Primeau for Dipietro swap. Swap the goalies who need a change of scenery with each other. They are the exact same age, 23. Both would have fresh starts in the organization. And Primeau could be a better long term third stringer for the Canucks than Dipietro and be a D'Elia replacement after next season.

i thought we had one too many goalies with dipietro. why would  we trade for another unless they are going to move another goalie as well.?

Just read on the tweeter that he was battling mono prior to the tournament and it was a last minute decision to go. Might explain why he had minimal impact.

He was playing with mono and still looked decent

also isnt he the youngest on the team as well, had no idea he had mono, stoked to see him next year though.

Lisfranc injury. Needs surgery Out 2 months? 

@sonoman, hopefully he recovers in time for the last few games of the season, and into the playoffs. Imagine if this was the last two games of the regular season? Yikes.

hope his back up can  keep the winning streak going.

The cap is 82.5M for the upcoming season. A team can go over the salary cap by the sum of the cap-hits of the players on LTIR.

@mll is the fancy rules man around here.

Raymond, Ballard, 3rd round pick

Dickinson, Poolman, and Pearson

It all depends on how the coaching staff deploys everyone.  Too early to answer this question. Give it 15 games and we'll see.

I believe Allvin and Rutherford see Dakota Joshua as a 4th line C/W. He'll likely play on Lazar's wing on the revamped 4th line this season with Joshua spotting in for Lazar as the C on certain draws (Joshua is a lefty, Lazar is a righty).

I don't think its helpful to compare him whether he is better than Dickinson or Pearson. I think you have to look at what he brings aside from other players. 

When I watched him play for Utica during that bubble season and when the Blues shared Utica with Vancouver, Dakota Joshua looked engage in every play. He kept his motor running hot, skating hard, effective checker in all 3 zones, and is very versatile. At lower levels he has produced offense - and because he is a late bloomer that might be an area he can still develop, but considering how the top 9 is already stacked and will be fighting for a 4th line role, his skill set will be judged on what he can bring in an energy role.

His game stylistically sort of looks like Justin Bailey - scorer at the AHL level but at the NHL level is an energy/bang and crash sort of player which we sorely lack. This will help preserve JT MIller, so he doesn't have to be the physical presence up front, and Joshua adds some toughness.

when hogs was playing his best, he was with bo and pearson.

Horvat is wasted as a shutdown center imo, we need to find a real 3C to take some of those tough matchups away from him. 

Mikheyev is the perfect counterpart for Petey IMO. If he's played on the left side, his goal pace would likely go down but he could focus on puck retrieval with Petey and Pods continuing their chemistry and we might see a big assist season from him. Or play him on Petey's right side with Kuzie on the left, and Mikheyev can be what Burrows was to the Sedins IMO.

You're darn tootin' I would!

LOL obviously, but NJ would never touch that.

no

Elias, stop pretending… If you want to act as a swede you should take lessons.

Petey and JT isn’t a match. 

@Timråfan    Hey, there are two of us now so my job just got alot tougher.  I have to learn another brand new personality now.  

Being on defence is a lot easier so.. 

Great advice

But the term??????

Once they agree on the total compensation of 50M the term is easy.  At that point 6 years suits both of them.

i'ld do 4 x 10 mil and 4 x2.5 mil. unless he's like federov. detroit front loaded his contract where he only got 1 mil a year for the last 2 years. he publically complained that he wasn't getting paid what he was worth.

Tommy's last name was MAH and his son, who would now be 71, was Geoffrey. I know there was a baby brother or sister, who would be around 66-67.

I am enjoying the off-season but sure am tired of JT Miller trade talk. What most on CDC don't seem to understand is that there is absolutely no pressure to move your top scorer who is cost controlled for one more year. If Miller slumps to 60-70 points, then maybe talks could get serious, but next year is the key: he either increases his value or he doesn't. 

Hope the off season is going well for you. Take care.

thanks lad.

Yeah, Allvin also said that he envisions Dakota Joshua on the roster too. Dakota Joshua did sign a 1 way contract. It sounds like Lazar and Joshua will make up 2/3 of the 4th line. There will be competition to fill the last part of that line.

Colin D'Elia is going to be in competition with Spencer Martin for the backup spot. I think Spencer Martin is going to win out because he will have a year of working with Ian Clark by the time training camp opens and Martin impressed last season in his games with the Canucks last season. Colin D'Elia as the 1A in Abby mentoring Silovs is good and D'Elia has experience with Jeremy Colliton since he was a goalie for Colliton in both Rockford and Chicago when Colliton was coaching in that organization.

Also if D'Elia does win the backup job, I believe Demko/D'Elia will be the first California born goalie tandem in the NHL.

Good call @smithers joe

A guest on 650 right now, who is a Pittsburgh hockey writer, is saying exactly that.  Might be a bigger deal involving both Marino and Kapanen. 

I would say Marino is Vancouver's top target right now...

He signed with NJD.  

Worst.

Prediction.

Ever?

tbh I am surprised they did not trade for him, he is exactly what they need with all they young stars 

they have insane depth at every position accept goalie and R D

Like why not any of these- very reasonable:

Mercer + Seamus Casey why not this?

Shak + Mercer

Holtz + Shak

Holtz + 2nd +-3rd

Shangerovich + Miles woods

Sherangovich + McLeod

Hirschier

McLeod + Sigenthaler (2nd pair RD) + Seamus Casey 

lol why is this not happening!!!!!!

Quinn has already said that he likes JT Miller's vocal style of leadership. So if NJ has designs on reuniting all 3 Hughes brothers some day, they really should consider trading for JT and signing him long-term...

Little is known what goes on behind closed doors not sure where this narrative that Aqualini is handcuffing the team and it really makes no sense why he would they have been spending too the cap since 2011.

He hitched his cart to the Green horse and that was it for him.  Benning gets a lot of flak but he assembled a good core, he could just never get those right complementary players in place.

@Dekey Pete It wasn’t just hitching his cart to the Green horse but the Willie horse as well.  Assembling a good core doesn’t mean much if they don’t develop.  Before Coach Bruce got here (old man JR took all of like less than a month to hire him lol), guys like EP and Boeser were stagnanting.  Only Hughes seemed to get better regardless of who was behind the bench.  You can’t waste ELC contract years of these star players by putting a guy bench the bench that isn’t ready or will never be ready.

montreal had the draft i hoped we'ld have. fireworks.

I don't expect fireworks from this management team.

Right the ship. Get it back on course.

Agree Joe.

Was hoping they were going to get extra picks, just to shake things up a little...

Chytil or Kakko?  Which is the better return?  

we'd need both along with a rd.