aGENT Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Interesting take on this. Allow me to quote you on it. Is it that interesting? Seems largely obvious...no? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 virtanen is gonna be a stud in nhl hes the fastest skater in the chl plus hes a big body and scores we lucked out he will be steal of draft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derp... Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Button thinks he's a Raffi Torres, so there's that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Button thinks he's a Raffi Torres, so there's that. Yeah he did. Then at the draft he said he would go 6th overall and said he was a beast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tystick Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I was probably one of the few people who actually wanted the Canucks to draft him, I was very excited when they did! I was with ya buddy! So happy he's in our system, he really has the potential to be an Iginla type player. Plus, him being a Canucks fan and a character guy are very important added bonuses IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 virtanen is gonna be a stud in nhl hes the fastest skater in the chl plus hes a big body and scores we lucked out he will be steal of draft Virtanen is NOT a steal. 6th overall pick for virtanen is a bit early i still think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 but he's also not Higgins if you know what I mean. Well, that's not saying much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMash Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Virtanen is NOT a steal. 6th overall pick for virtanen is a bit early i still think. Most people here don't understand what a steal or bust is. A 6th overall pick being a good player isn't a steal, and a 6th round pick not making the NHL isn't a bust, yet it gets thrown around a lot anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayRayDown Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Virtanen is NOT a steal. 6th overall pick for virtanen is a bit early i still think. 6th overall is a bit early? Thats where most had him pegged going and he is more capable playing in the west than Nylander or Ehlers. also we all know the steal in the draft is McCann 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Most people here don't understand what a steal or bust is. A 6th overall pick being a good player isn't a steal, and a 6th round pick not making the NHL isn't a bust, yet it gets thrown around a lot anyway."I totally read 6th overall pick not making the NHL isnt a bust..." Glad I read it over 8 times haha. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Virtanen doesn't have skill? He's skilled, point per game in the WHL, but he doesn't have Ehlers or Nylander-level skill. Those kids are on another level to Virtanen. Sure, Virtanen's got a bigger body and plays a more rounded game but like I've said, we've got enough of those players, and we've got no one in our lineup on the same echelon as say Nylander skill-wise. Our prospect pool is getting stupidly one-dimensional. Horvat, Jensen, Virtanen, Kassian and Gaunce are all very similar players. We did get lucky with drafting McCann (surprised he fell so late) so hopefully he develops a bit more pure skill, and although Cassels is up there in the OHL scoring he's more of a two-way forward just like the rest of our prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 He's skilled, point per game in the WHL, but he doesn't have Ehlers or Nylander-level skill. Those kids are on another level to Virtanen. Sure, Virtanen's got a bigger body and plays a more rounded game but like I've said, we've got enough of those players, and we've got no one in our lineup on the same echelon as say Nylander skill-wise. Our prospect pool is getting stupidly one-dimensional. Horvat, Jensen, Virtanen, Kassian and Gaunce are all very similar players. We did get lucky with drafting McCann (surprised he fell so late) so hopefully he develops a bit more pure skill, and although Cassels is up there in the OHL scoring he's more of a two-way forward just like the rest of our prospects. I was half way done typing my reply post when I gave up. LOL WAT? THats all you get. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Yeah a big lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Virtanen Mccann ? Shinkaruk Horvat Jensen Fox Gaunce Cassels Stanton Corrad Trymakyn Subban Cederholm ? we have a pretty good young crop coming up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 "I totally read 6th overall pick not making the NHL isnt a bust..." Glad I read it over 8 times haha. same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amish Rake Fighter Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 "I totally read 6th overall pick not making the NHL isnt a bust..." Glad I read it over 8 times haha. good thing I read some of the other responses, I thought it was an uncharacteristically bizarre statement from the Mash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMash Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 good thing I read some of the other responses, I thought it was an uncharacteristically bizarre statement from the Mash After reading Gooseberries post I had to go back and make sure I didn't actually say "6th overall pick not making the NHL isn't a bust". What a poor choice of wording on my part Our prospect pool is getting stupidly one-dimensional. Horvat, Jensen, Virtanen, Kassian and Gaunce are all very similar players. I really disagree. If you're going to lump players together, it would probably be Horvat/Gaunce being the most similar as two way centers, and then the other three as offensively minded big wingers. Even then, they all play completely different styles of games. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 He's skilled, point per game in the WHL, but he doesn't have Ehlers or Nylander-level skill. Those kids are on another level to Virtanen. Sure, Virtanen's got a bigger body and plays a more rounded game but like I've said, we've got enough of those players, and we've got no one in our lineup on the same echelon as say Nylander skill-wise. "Another level"? Just because they're smaller and dance around doesn't mean they are somehow more skilled, let alone not even "on the same echelon". Virtanen had four less goals than Ehlers, despite significantly less TOI, considerably less PP time, and having inferior linemates. Virtanen's natural skills are simply different but still significant, PLUS he's a bigger body PLUS he's aggressive and knows how to use it PLUS he's a character guy. Higher floor and far less downside risk, and that is why he was drafted higher and was expected to go higher (except per Button, of course). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Sure, Virtanen's got a bigger body and plays a more rounded game but like I've said, we've got enough of those players, and we've got no one in our lineup on the same echelon as say Nylander skill-wise. So fast, big-bodied, skilled, well-rounded players are something we only need "enough" (whatever that means) of? Maybe for the team you envision, but give me 20 of them, as would any team. Our prospect pool is getting stupidly one-dimensional. Horvat, Jensen, Virtanen, Kassian and Gaunce are all very similar players. So well-rounded is "stupidly one-dimensional"? Have you really thought that through? Hint: google "oxymoron". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekey Pete Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 He's skilled, point per game in the WHL, but he doesn't have Ehlers or Nylander-level skill. Those kids are on another level to Virtanen. Sure, Virtanen's got a bigger body and plays a more rounded game but like I've said, we've got enough of those players, and we've got no one in our lineup on the same echelon as say Nylander skill-wise. Our prospect pool is getting stupidly one-dimensional. Horvat, Jensen, Virtanen, Kassian and Gaunce are all very similar players. We did get lucky with drafting McCann (surprised he fell so late) so hopefully he develops a bit more pure skill, and although Cassels is up there in the OHL scoring he's more of a two-way forward just like the rest of our prospects. The biggest difference I would say with Virtanen is his speed. We have lots of big bodies, you are correct there, but lots are lacking NHL speed. Virtanen has speed and size and a scoring touch. What isn't there to like? Also, we have Shinkaruk to develop into a pure goal scorer, that guy thrives on putting the puck in the net. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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