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1 hour ago, aGENT said:

 

Wasn't him being unhappy in Vancouver part of the reason he returned to the KHL in the first place? Whats to say this time around he's going to be happy here? He's no walk on with the way the team is playing and he will be lucky to be 6-7th defenseman. I hope he doesn't come over hoping to get top minutes and then get angry again when its not up to his liking. His size is something we could use on the back end and would love to have him back playing well in a Nucks uniform but I'll hold my breath until I see what he can bring.

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Second team in a row he is disillusioned with.  Maybe he is not the best team guy.  Maybe he is a bit of a prima donna?  Although I, like everyone else on cdc, want him to be great, maybe he is a great trade asset this year.  I just have a feeling he won't be happy here with 3rd pairing minutes, or worse.

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17 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said:

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Don't get me wrong, I want him come in and win the Vezina.  However, if you look at the success of D coming in from the KHL, they rarely are top 4.  He wouldn't be top 4 right now and I just think he might not be any happier than he is now or than he was before.

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3 minutes ago, Dixon Ward said:

Don't get me wrong, I want him come in and win the Vezina.  However, if you look at the success of D coming in from the KHL, they rarely are top 4.  He wouldn't be top 4 right now and I just think he might not be any happier than he is now or than he was before.

Well, if he were to win the Vezina that would be quite the feat.    I think you meant something else but if not, changing his position that late in the career is a remarkable concept.

 

Back to reality, I have seen improvement in his on ice game this year to think he could crack an NHL lineup if he applies himself.  These off-ice issues are a massive red flag once again.  

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57 minutes ago, Dixon Ward said:

Second team in a row he is disillusioned with.  Maybe he is not the best team guy.  Maybe he is a bit of a prima donna?  Although I, like everyone else on cdc, want him to be great, maybe he is a great trade asset this year.  I just have a feeling he won't be happy here with 3rd pairing minutes, or worse.

Well, if it is true that he is disillusioned with his present team because they tried to bully him into signing a contract extension and lowered his icetime when he refused, I don't blame him. 

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17 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

so who's saying 'he lost motivation' - is that a direct quote from Niks agent? 

 

Its fair to put Niks ceiling as a 4/5 and floor as a 6/7 imo.  

 

The quote I believe was from a Russian hockey analyst, who says he knows Tree well both as a hockey player and as a person.  Take that for what you will.

 

More concerning is the explanation of why he lost the captaincy in his second season.  Again, same analyst, said it was because the coach thought he wasn't hustling enough.  I don't know, it's an interesting article, but def doesn't paint him in the best light.  Says that his NHL ceiling now, having plateaued in the KHL is probably 6th or 7th dman.  Should ruffle some feathers here, I expect.  

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Just now, Dungass said:

The quote I believe was from a Russian hockey analyst, who says he knows Tree well both as a hockey player and as a person.  Take that for what you will.

 

More concerning is the explanation of why he lost the captaincy in his second season.  Again, same analyst, said it was because the coach thought he wasn't hustling enough.  I don't know, it's an interesting article, but def doesn't paint him in the best light.  Says that his NHL ceiling now, having plateaued in the KHL is probably 6th or 7th dman.  Should ruffle some feathers here, I expect.  

There is no question that Tryamkin floated last year out of the gate and never really caught up.  The guy I have seen this year seems more motivated, urgent and willing to do most anything to help his team.   This latest development is really disappointing as it appeared he had turned the corner as a professional and stopped relying solely on his gifts of size/mobility and realized he had to work hard.   I still think someone in his life keeps giving him bad advice.

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1 hour ago, Rob_Zepp said:

To be fair, that was on a mediocre AHL calibre team.   

I didn’t know Jamie Benn and others played in the AHL ;)

There’s a couple / three of 88’s in this mix too,

sorry couldn’t find any from the AHL Rob.

 

 

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Speaking of motivation, I gotta say that I’ve lost my motivation to read any more on this topic unless I can be entertained again with stories of a Russian Giant who swats opposition players away with one swipe of his mighty arm and who can step from the left face off circle to the right in a single stride and usurps the hierarchy of the Canucks defence with his mere presence! Tree’s bigger than life persona is taking a beating here!  

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3 hours ago, Gaudette Celly said:

Worst-kept secret.  Let's hope he's matured the past three years, and is willing to pay the price to make it here.  If not, what else -- go to another KHL team?  He needs to settle down and make a career commitment.

well, considering he's currently in the exact same situation, sulking because he doesn't want to earn his minutes, I'd say don't hold your breath ...

 

2 hours ago, Dixon Ward said:

Second team in a row he is disillusioned with.  Maybe he is not the best team guy.  Maybe he is a bit of a prima donna?  Although I, like everyone else on cdc, want him to be great, maybe he is a great trade asset this year.  I just have a feeling he won't be happy here with 3rd pairing minutes, or worse.

yup, diva.

 

1 hour ago, WeneedLumme said:

Well, if it is true that he is disillusioned with his present team because they tried to bully him into signing a contract extension and lowered his icetime when he refused, I don't blame him. 

where'd you hear that?

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22 minutes ago, tas said:

well, considering he's currently in the exact same situation, sulking because he doesn't want to earn his minutes, I'd say don't hold your breath ...

 

yup, diva.

 

where'd you hear that?

JB should trade Tryamkim’s rights to the Rags for the rights to that Lias, I’m a poor sort soiled baby, Anderson, 

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4 hours ago, Gaudette Celly said:

Worst-kept secret.  Let's hope he's matured the past three years, and is willing to pay the price to make it here.  If not, what else -- go to another KHL team?  He needs to settle down and make a career commitment.

He is unhappy again? This guy was not happy with his usage in the NHL (but willy was wonky) and not happy in the KHL.

 

If he comes back, it prob wont be for long. This guy seems entitled.

 

Hopefully it is just media and not some crap attitude.

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4 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said:

Well, if he were to win the Vezina that would be quite the feat.    I think you meant something else but if not, changing his position that late in the career is a remarkable concept.

 

Back to reality, I have seen improvement in his on ice game this year to think he could crack an NHL lineup if he applies himself.  These off-ice issues are a massive red flag once again.  

Norris, sorry!:rolleyes:

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