Chickenspear 1,842 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, aliboy said: He doesn't have to sign before TDL. I know, was just ballparking an earlier than expected return vs. post KHL season 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spitfire_Spiky 427 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, aGENT said: Wasn't him being unhappy in Vancouver part of the reason he returned to the KHL in the first place? Whats to say this time around he's going to be happy here? He's no walk on with the way the team is playing and he will be lucky to be 6-7th defenseman. I hope he doesn't come over hoping to get top minutes and then get angry again when its not up to his liking. His size is something we could use on the back end and would love to have him back playing well in a Nucks uniform but I'll hold my breath until I see what he can bring. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goal:thecup 1,966 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Jan 27 today; one month (31 days) to Feb 27... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dixon Ward 2,172 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Second team in a row he is disillusioned with. Maybe he is not the best team guy. Maybe he is a bit of a prima donna? Although I, like everyone else on cdc, want him to be great, maybe he is a great trade asset this year. I just have a feeling he won't be happy here with 3rd pairing minutes, or worse. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob_Zepp 18,749 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 22 hours ago, SilentSam said: He was already a solid 3rd pairing D in his rookie season To be fair, that was on a mediocre AHL calibre team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob_Zepp 18,749 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, Dixon Ward said: Maybe he is a bit of a prima donna? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dixon Ward 2,172 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 17 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said: Don't get me wrong, I want him come in and win the Vezina. However, if you look at the success of D coming in from the KHL, they rarely are top 4. He wouldn't be top 4 right now and I just think he might not be any happier than he is now or than he was before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob_Zepp 18,749 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dixon Ward said: Don't get me wrong, I want him come in and win the Vezina. However, if you look at the success of D coming in from the KHL, they rarely are top 4. He wouldn't be top 4 right now and I just think he might not be any happier than he is now or than he was before. Well, if he were to win the Vezina that would be quite the feat. I think you meant something else but if not, changing his position that late in the career is a remarkable concept. Back to reality, I have seen improvement in his on ice game this year to think he could crack an NHL lineup if he applies himself. These off-ice issues are a massive red flag once again. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WeneedLumme 4,018 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 57 minutes ago, Dixon Ward said: Second team in a row he is disillusioned with. Maybe he is not the best team guy. Maybe he is a bit of a prima donna? Although I, like everyone else on cdc, want him to be great, maybe he is a great trade asset this year. I just have a feeling he won't be happy here with 3rd pairing minutes, or worse. Well, if it is true that he is disillusioned with his present team because they tried to bully him into signing a contract extension and lowered his icetime when he refused, I don't blame him. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy McGill 44,719 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 3 hours ago, aGENT said: so who's saying 'he lost motivation' - is that a direct quote from Niks agent? Its fair to put Niks ceiling as a 4/5 and floor as a 6/7 imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dungass 426 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 17 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: so who's saying 'he lost motivation' - is that a direct quote from Niks agent? Its fair to put Niks ceiling as a 4/5 and floor as a 6/7 imo. The quote I believe was from a Russian hockey analyst, who says he knows Tree well both as a hockey player and as a person. Take that for what you will. More concerning is the explanation of why he lost the captaincy in his second season. Again, same analyst, said it was because the coach thought he wasn't hustling enough. I don't know, it's an interesting article, but def doesn't paint him in the best light. Says that his NHL ceiling now, having plateaued in the KHL is probably 6th or 7th dman. Should ruffle some feathers here, I expect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob_Zepp 18,749 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Just now, Dungass said: The quote I believe was from a Russian hockey analyst, who says he knows Tree well both as a hockey player and as a person. Take that for what you will. More concerning is the explanation of why he lost the captaincy in his second season. Again, same analyst, said it was because the coach thought he wasn't hustling enough. I don't know, it's an interesting article, but def doesn't paint him in the best light. Says that his NHL ceiling now, having plateaued in the KHL is probably 6th or 7th dman. Should ruffle some feathers here, I expect. There is no question that Tryamkin floated last year out of the gate and never really caught up. The guy I have seen this year seems more motivated, urgent and willing to do most anything to help his team. This latest development is really disappointing as it appeared he had turned the corner as a professional and stopped relying solely on his gifts of size/mobility and realized he had to work hard. I still think someone in his life keeps giving him bad advice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilentSam 7,253 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Rob_Zepp said: To be fair, that was on a mediocre AHL calibre team. I didn’t know Jamie Benn and others played in the AHL There’s a couple / three of 88’s in this mix too, sorry couldn’t find any from the AHL Rob. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zimmy 573 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Speaking of motivation, I gotta say that I’ve lost my motivation to read any more on this topic unless I can be entertained again with stories of a Russian Giant who swats opposition players away with one swipe of his mighty arm and who can step from the left face off circle to the right in a single stride and usurps the hierarchy of the Canucks defence with his mere presence! Tree’s bigger than life persona is taking a beating here! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tas 7,105 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Gaudette Celly said: Worst-kept secret. Let's hope he's matured the past three years, and is willing to pay the price to make it here. If not, what else -- go to another KHL team? He needs to settle down and make a career commitment. well, considering he's currently in the exact same situation, sulking because he doesn't want to earn his minutes, I'd say don't hold your breath ... 2 hours ago, Dixon Ward said: Second team in a row he is disillusioned with. Maybe he is not the best team guy. Maybe he is a bit of a prima donna? Although I, like everyone else on cdc, want him to be great, maybe he is a great trade asset this year. I just have a feeling he won't be happy here with 3rd pairing minutes, or worse. yup, diva. 1 hour ago, WeneedLumme said: Well, if it is true that he is disillusioned with his present team because they tried to bully him into signing a contract extension and lowered his icetime when he refused, I don't blame him. where'd you hear that? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alflives 35,089 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 22 minutes ago, tas said: well, considering he's currently in the exact same situation, sulking because he doesn't want to earn his minutes, I'd say don't hold your breath ... yup, diva. where'd you hear that? JB should trade Tryamkim’s rights to the Rags for the rights to that Lias, I’m a poor sort soiled baby, Anderson, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kanukfanatic 7,385 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Gaudette Celly said: Worst-kept secret. Let's hope he's matured the past three years, and is willing to pay the price to make it here. If not, what else -- go to another KHL team? He needs to settle down and make a career commitment. He is unhappy again? This guy was not happy with his usage in the NHL (but willy was wonky) and not happy in the KHL. If he comes back, it prob wont be for long. This guy seems entitled. Hopefully it is just media and not some crap attitude. Edited January 28, 2020 by Kanukfanatic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilentSam 7,253 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 hour ago, tas said: where'd you hear that? ... it was weeks ago tas.. sleeping under a bridge again? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dixon Ward 2,172 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said: Well, if he were to win the Vezina that would be quite the feat. I think you meant something else but if not, changing his position that late in the career is a remarkable concept. Back to reality, I have seen improvement in his on ice game this year to think he could crack an NHL lineup if he applies himself. These off-ice issues are a massive red flag once again. Norris, sorry! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Lancaster 4,990 Posted January 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2020 A Canadian player wants to be on the ice more, to get more responsibility and to be a difference maker = Good ol' Canadian kid, everyone should aspire to be like him. A Russian player wants to be on the ice more, to get more responsibility and to be a difference marker = Total Russian diva, trade him for a bag of pucks, ungrateful punk. 4 1 2 1 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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