MoneypuckOverlord Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 He's one of those tweeners type of players. his foot speed needs work, and if he's not producing offensively then he's not doing much for your team. Mike Gillis probably saw this coming from a mile away, his dad tried to talk Gillis into giving him top 6 minutes, he is literally not even in the same class Kesler, let a lone Bonino. He was given the chance as a top 6 player in Buffalo and has failed miserably, with Grigorkengo, Reinhart and soon to be McDavid/Eichel coming in, Hodgson is going to be pushed off the top 6 line, on the fridgin Buffalo Sabres. kids a dud, at least Kassian can be thrown on the 3rd line, and ask him to do nothing else but hit and fight. If he's bought out the winner of the trade is the Vancouver Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Hodgson + a decent prospect(like a 2nd/3rd rounder) to TO for Phaneuf? Or Carolina for Semin, with Car retaining 1.5 mill~2 mill annually? Or is he such a lost cause, no GM would take a chance?For sure if the Sabres buy Hodgson out Toronto signs him fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 For sure if the Sabres buy Hodgson out Toronto signs him fast. The LAST thing Toronto needs is another player that can't/won't play defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AriGold Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Hindsight is 20/20, but imagine had we drafted Karlsson instead? The way we were developing players I'm sure Karlsson would have been a career 5th or 6th Damn.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter.S-Kerouac Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 So I guess because Kass still has some sort of value we won the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I wouldn't be motivated in Buffalo either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 He's one of those tweeners type of players. his foot speed needs work, and if he's not producing offensively then he's not doing much for your team. Mike Gillis probably saw this coming from a mile away, his dad tried to talk Gillis into giving him top 6 minutes, he is literally not even in the same class Kesler, let a lone Bonino. He was given the chance as a top 6 player in Buffalo and has failed miserably, with Grigorkengo, Reinhart and soon to be McDavid/Eichel coming in, Hodgson is going to be pushed off the top 6 line, on the fridgin Buffalo Sabres. kids a dud, at least Kassian can be thrown on the 3rd line, and ask him to do nothing else but hit and fight. If he's bought out the winner of the trade is the Vancouver Canucks. Which Kassian doesn't, lol. I'm hoping that the Canucks can trade Kassian back for Hodgson - salary + 3rd rounder. A free draft pick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter.S-Kerouac Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 The LAST thing Toronto needs is another player that can't/won't play defense. he fits the system. Amiright! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible.dee Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 My guess is whatever that back problem was, robbed him of what little speed he had. Not being able to play a 200ft. game, he decided to be a Ray Sheppard type sniper. Problem being there are no Sheppard type players any more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 he's not overrated, he has elite skills when he wants to use them. he may have wellwood disease though. a lack of motivation/inability to fully realize his full potential. a change of scenery, some maturation, and the idea that he was bought out (or traded for little return) might be exactly what he needs... or he might go full wellwood and end up in europe somewhere. I agree with this. Even at that Hodgson > Wellwood. He at least shows up in shape. And has even more dangerous skills including that shot. For all the BS and hype, each equally blown out of proportion; lots of guys scored better with Hodgson than Kesler when CoHo was here. A solution for lack of production, lol, was to be demoted to the 3rd line. CoHo also proved he could produce with good players in Buffalo. He does need good players around him. But Hodgson should, like Kassian, still be a viable NHL player IMO. And much more attractive if they shed that contract of his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairCanuckGM Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Hodgson for Mike Richards, David Clarkson, or Alex Semin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 I agree with this. Even at that Hodgson > Wellwood. He at least shows up in shape. And has even more dangerous skills including that shot. For all the BS and hype, each equally blown out of proportion; lots of guys scored better with Hodgson than Kesler when CoHo was here. A solution for lack of production, lol, was to be demoted to the 3rd line. CoHo also proved he could produce with good players in Buffalo. He does need good players around him. But Hodgson should, like Kassian, still be a viable NHL player IMO. And much more attractive if they shed that contract of his. I dunno...wellwood was mind blowing once in a while....Aside from bar down in Boston I'd still say wellwood has the dangle hands over coho so far anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 If he had a twin brother he may have success playing the way he does. Unfortunately speed is a big part of today's game, and he just doesn't have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 If he had a twin brother he may have success playing the way he does. Unfortunately speed is a big part of today's game, and he just doesn't have it. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Richards for Hodgson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00kies Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 So...we win the trade? We just lose the trade a little less than Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace The Creator Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Only teams that want to get to the bottom of the cap floor would take Cody's contract. That's how Florida ended up with Brian Campbell. Might nnot be the right place to ask, but what is the cap floor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 He's one of those tweeners type of players. his foot speed needs work, and if he's not producing offensively then he's not doing much for your team. Mike Gillis probably saw this coming from a mile away, his dad tried to talk Gillis into giving him top 6 minutes, he is literally not even in the same class Kesler, let a lone Bonino. He was given the chance as a top 6 player in Buffalo and has failed miserably, with Grigorkengo, Reinhart and soon to be McDavid/Eichel coming in, Hodgson is going to be pushed off the top 6 line, on the fridgin Buffalo Sabres. kids a dud, at least Kassian can be thrown on the 3rd line, and ask him to do nothing else but hit and fight. If he's bought out the winner of the trade is the Vancouver Canucks. If he's not producing offensively then basically he's a third Sedin. Mike Gillis saw this coming from a mile away? Why did he pick him 10th overall then? Hodgson played pretty well mostly on the 3rd line for the Canucks, he probably did deserve a shot in the top 6. He scored 20 goals for the Sabres last year on a team that doesn't score goals, that's not failing miserably. Hodgson's not a dud, the team he was traded to is a dud. There's a very good chance he resurrects his career on another team. Lately Kassian spends his time in the pressbox or the penalty box, when he's actually on the ice he's still mostly unnoticeable. If Hodgson's bought out and Kassian is traded for a cheese sandwich, nobody wins the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 ^"Nobody wins the trade"...How ironic is that?! SO MUCH ado about nada... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 The way we were developing players I'm sure Karlsson would have been a career 5th or 6th Damn.. This. It is ALL about the development. As I have said before teams who got guys like Karlsson, Keith, Weber, etc. later in the draft didn't just find a hidden gem no one else saw. They developed that player properly according to the skillset the player had rather than try to force them to be something they are not. And they reaped the rewards for that. The Canucks are and have been for awhile absolutely brutal about how they try to turn players into something they are not before giving them any shot at all. Understand the strengths and weaknesses of the player first. Then put them in a role that places them in the best possible situation to have them succeed. The confidence of a player is exceedingly important and when they start having that success it becomes something they can build on as time goes on. That is how some of the best players are developed seemingly out of nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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