PhillipBlunt Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 5 minutes ago, theminister said: Torts loved Edler, used him horribly mind you, so I would be looking for a deal around him if I was JB. Edler, Higgins, 2nd, +? Would it do it? Probably not but I'd be asking anyway Would I be worried about our D? Nope, not at this point. Right now that is a 'tomorrow problem.' We could add a body from another team looking to dump a contract. There has been the suggestion of Luke Schenn for months but I'd also be looking at Streit if Philly is seeking to dump cap. It may be counter intuitive because of his age but, as a stop gap, he'd add exactly what we need from a skill/experience perspective and would help next season too. Weber + a small piece like Jensen? Then get Tryamkin over here for March. The defence would be a complete joke if Edler was traded without a similar player in size and ability coming back. He plays the most minutes of any player on the team. That would be a full on tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Torts has the nutcracker in full effect again. Scratch Johansen Scratch Hartnell. Their top two scorers. Who needs to score to win? Defend the 0-1 deficit. Same old Torts. And folks call the Canucks an unintentional/intentional tank. Free the CBJ! (Get us some David Savard while you're pinching RJ.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 8 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: The defence would be a complete joke if Edler was traded without a similar player in size and ability coming back. He plays the most minutes of any player on the team. That would be a full on tank. Would it be a crap show in the short term? Yes but it already is. It would not be full tank, it would be shifting from one area of need to address another. That's why I suggest picking up Streit on the cheap. I have no illusions about this year and neither should/will management. We are in that state where we need to think 'outside of the box' and take the short term hit. If Edler is the best D-man they would be offered available to help out the roster then we should leverage that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanisleryan Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Id be a little concerned with what exactly is going on with RyJo....there seems to be more to the story than we know. Not just a coach vs player problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 This torts johansen situation reminds me a lot of luongo torts....no respect for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 16 minutes ago, Vanisleryan said: Id be a little concerned with what exactly is going on with RyJo....there seems to be more to the story than we know. Not just a coach vs player problem. Got dicked around by the GM in negotiations, and is now being dicked around by infantile coach hired by GM. I'm not particularly concerned about RyJo's attitude etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 1 minute ago, J.R. said: Got dicked around by the GM in negotiations, and is now being dicked around by infantile coach hired by GM. I'm not particularly concerned about RyJo's attitude etc. I'd be more concerned about his offseason training and diet but that is easily remedied. I think he'd be responsive and under the microscope here which could be a boon. Still...I'd take the massive risk for the massive payoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 7 minutes ago, theminister said: I'd be more concerned about his offseason training and diet but that is easily remedied. I think he'd be responsive and under the microscope here which could be a boon. Still...I'd take the massive risk for the massive payoff. Ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 8 minutes ago, theminister said: I'd be more concerned about his offseason training and diet but that is easily remedied. I think he'd be responsive and under the microscope here which could be a boon. Still...I'd take the massive risk for the massive payoff. heard nothing but good things from people around the league. Pierre Mcguire yesterday talked about his character being great... either way sometimes people don't mix. I don't think any GM should consider this as a massive risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 4 minutes ago, goblix said: heard nothing but good things from people around the league. Pierre Mcguire yesterday talked about his character being great... either way sometimes people don't mix. I don't think any GM should consider this as a massive risk. What I have heard it isn't a character issue...it's a regimen issue. For what we would be giving up to acquire him....yes, of course it would be a massive risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 2 minutes ago, theminister said: What I have heard isn't a character issue...it's a regimen issue. Fir what we would be giving up to acquire him....yes, of course it would be a massive risk. I'd argue that case, Johansen is 23 w/ 71 points last year and 22 points this year. Comparatively to Daniel 74 points last season and 34 points this season. Then also have to mention that he's big commanding type of player. Yes it sucks to give our promising prospects up but seeing as there are no guarantees that Horvat / McCann / Virtanen are going to be top 6 players it's an easy decision for me to give a high potential unknown for a sure fire great thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Just now, goblix said: I'd argue that case, Johansen is 23 w/ 71 points last year and 22 points this year. Comparatively to Daniel 74 points last season and 34 points this season. Then also have to mention that he's big commanding type of player. Yes it sucks to give our promising prospects up but seeing as there are no guarantees that Horvat / McCann / Virtanen are going to be top 6 players it's an easy decision for me to give a high potential unknown for a sure fire great thing. I've said before, but I'd only trade McCann if it's a package for Johansen. Other than that he should be considered untouchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 3 minutes ago, Pears said: I've said before, but I'd only trade McCann if it's a package for Johansen. Other than that he should be considered untouchable. Agreed, I'd rather trade Horvat than McCann, love the guys compete and his shot. Lucic - Johansen - Virtanen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 He sounds like a head case TBH. I wouldn't sell the farm for him. Sign him as a UFA, by then we will be contenders...... hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Johansen to vancouver would probably be a great christmas present too Johansen lol. Bob McKenzie was just talking about him on tsn1040. Believe he used the words: "I wouldn't be surprised if he's traded". & "This isn't just on the coach; these issues have been brought up in the past." IE: floating, not being in good enough shape. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 We got this one guys! Raymond, Ballard, 1st. Done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 1 minute ago, HKSR said: We got this one guys! Raymond, Ballard, 1st. Done. Mail it home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackcanuck Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Aaron Portzline @Aportzline 18m18 minutes ago More Johansen: "I'm going to use it as a positive and take this day to watch the guys and realize that I don’t want this to happen again. Ryan Johansen on his healthy scratch tonight: "It's probably been brewing for a while. But since the last game, in Dallas I made a few mistakes, (stuff) we've been going over as a team, things we have to erase from our game. Full responsibility. My fault." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 1 hour ago, PhillipBlunt said: The defence would be a complete joke if Edler was traded without a similar player in size and ability coming back. He plays the most minutes of any player on the team. That would be a full on tank. The defense is already a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Lol. If the Canucks get a 2nd + RyJo because of Torts, plus Virt, that crappy year would be kinda worth it. Can only imagine if Kesler was scratched at his peak here if he was going through some tough games under AV, everyone would've been rightfully calling for his head. Baer & RyJo also have a history, so maybe he could get Baer going again too. It'd be like two forwards in one with the confidence Baer has lost since training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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