Off_The_Schneid! Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 5 minutes ago, D-Money said: I just cringe at the thought of what we'd have to give up to get RyJo. Definitely at least two of Horvat, Virtanen, McCann, Hutton, and our 2016 1st. But if there's a way of just dealing one of those, I'd love to hear it. Horvat- main centrepiece Tanev- top 2 young defenseman 2016 2nd Rd pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFBR392 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Do not want. Too expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 5 minutes ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: Horvat- main centrepiece Tanev- top 2 young defenseman 2016 2nd Rd pick Lol well you got there before me, was literally about to post this: Quote Maybe a deal that starts with Tanev and one of the famed 4/5 pieces then fill out the rest with 2nd tier stuff.. Likely Horvat or McCann because we'd be getting a 1C back. Horvat, Tanev, +, + think CBJ would want more than just a 2nd rd pick and I don't call Tanev a top 2 dman. He's a top 4 shutdown guy for sure though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 9 minutes ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: Horvat- main centrepiece Tanev- top 2 young defenseman 2016 2nd Rd pick Oh man, if we thought our D was bad before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 16 minutes ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: Horvat- main centrepiece Tanev- top 2 young defenseman 2016 2nd Rd pick I'd do this if it meant we lose more games between now and the end of the season. In other words, if we land the 2nd overall pick, I'd do it. Horvat replaced by RyJo Tanev replaced by Chychrun 2nd Rd Pick goes back to them from the Torts compensation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 A young 1C is available? Canucks aren't interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 there is no way JB trades Tanev now. He is too important on the backend for years to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I think it really depends. If we give up those kind of assets, we can't go after another bigtime player in trade. Really I think our need would be much more on finding a top pairing D in trade if we were going to shake things up and move some young players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Just now, Provost said: I think it really depends. If we give up those kind of assets, we can't go after another bigtime player in trade. Really I think our need would be much more on finding a top pairing D in trade if we were going to shake things up and move some young players. Is anyone trading away a top pairing D ? Hamonic is Top 4 slightly better than Tanev and Barrie is good and probably the best option but not sure if he is actually available... Players like Stamkos and Johansen being "available" don't come up often and definitely have to put your foot down and check the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 CBJ Johansen will be a healthy scratch tonight Columbus are such idiots lmao. They're actually looking to trade a young star player away. Thought it was just a rumour but McKenzie saying they're actually phoning teams now instead of just picking up calls. History shows that never ends up working well for the team dealing him away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 7 minutes ago, goblix said: Is anyone trading away a top pairing D ? Hamonic is Top 4 slightly better than Tanev and Barrie is good and probably the best option but not sure if he is actually available... Players like Stamkos and Johansen being "available" don't come up often and definitely have to put your foot down and check the cost. I agree to some extent, but my main question is whether adding Johansen is going to make our team competitive again expecially when you consider the type of package it would take to get him. Johanson is not an elite 1st line centre, he is a bottom end 1st line guy or he is a rockstar 2nd line guy. Do you give up every tradeable asset for that? If you are trading for Stamkos sure, you empty out all our assets to get that player. Horvat for Johanson straight up sure... if you have to add in a Tanev or one of the other few top prospects we have... then you probably net out behind. With the cap world, there will always be very good players available for trade in exchange for prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 McCann 2017 1st and a prospect. Anything more and i would say no thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 1 minute ago, Provost said: I agree to some extent, but my main question is whether adding Johansen is going to make our team competitive again expecially when you consider the type of package it would take to get him. Johanson is not an elite 1st line centre, he is a bottom end 1st line guy or he is a rockstar 2nd line guy. Do you give up every tradeable asset for that? If you are trading for Stamkos sure, you empty out all our assets to get that player. Horvat for Johanson straight up sure... if you have to add in a Tanev or one of the other few top prospects we have... then you probably net out behind. Johansen would be our future 1st line centre something we desperately need would allow us to draft a stud defenceman we were never going to do anything this season. Benning is just waiting until a ton of cap space is cleared up next season with many expiring contracts trade for johanssen unload all ufa at trade deadline for picks draft high defenceman pick up a college free agent defenceman play the free agent frenzy market with a ton of cap space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I'd prefer we do this deal in the summer honestly. One of Horvat/McCann + Sbisa and their Torts 2nd back. Perhaps ass a secondary prospect (Gaunce, Cassels, Jensen etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 5 minutes ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: Johansen would be our future 1st line centre something we desperately need would allow us to draft a stud defenceman we were never going to do anything this season. Benning is just waiting until a ton of cap space is cleared up next season with many expiring contracts trade for johanssen unload all ufa at trade deadline for picks draft high defenceman pick up a college free agent defenceman play the free agent frenzy market with a ton of cap space Reasonable plan... pretty tough to draft a D that is going to help out in the near future. Most of them take years to develop, Ekblad is a serious exception. My concern is that Johanson is a solid but not spectacular 1st line centre. It would be much bigger chance for success if you trade for a #2-3 defenceman (the equivalent of Johanson), and draft a stud centre or even a winger to play on our first line in 2-3 year when the Sedins are dropping in production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 just got scratched from tonites game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Just now, J.R. said: I'd prefer we do this deal in the summer honestly. One of Horvat/McCann + Sbisa and their Torts 2nd back. Think they have an option to give the 2nd this year or the next year (i could be wrong)... clearly they aren't going to choose this year if it keeps up. 1 minute ago, Provost said: Reasonable plan... pretty tough to draft a D that is going to help out in the near future. Most of them take years to develop, Ekblad is a serious exception. It would be much bigger chance for success if you trade for a #2-3 defenceman (the equivalent of Johanson), and draft a stud centre or even a winger to play on our first line in 2-3 year when the Sedins are dropping in production. Actually a few examples, Doughty, Ekblad, Jones, Hanifin alot more seem to hit after the first year. rare but not out of the question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 6 minutes ago, Provost said: Reasonable plan... pretty tough to draft a D that is going to help out in the near future. Most of them take years to develop, Ekblad is a serious exception. My concern is that Johanson is a solid but not spectacular 1st line centre. It would be much bigger chance for success if you trade for a #2-3 defenceman (the equivalent of Johanson), and draft a stud centre or even a winger to play on our first line in 2-3 year when the Sedins are dropping in production. I think he only looks solid so far because he Torts threw him in the doghouse. Torts is a coach who stifles offensive freedom and prefers dump and chase and low risk play. Johansen is a creative offensive player who takes risks. They are like water and oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Imagine if we snagged RyJo AND won the lotto this summer! Shink, Mathews, Boesser Baer, RyJo, Virtanen Gaunce, McCann/Horvat, Sutter Kenins, Cassels, Grenier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Torts loved Edler, used him horribly mind you, so I would be looking for a deal around him if I was JB. Edler, Higgins, 2nd, +? Would it do it? Probably not but I'd be asking anyway Would I be worried about our D? Nope, not at this point. Right now that is a 'tomorrow problem.' We could add a body from another team looking to dump a contract. There has been the suggestion of Luke Schenn for months but I'd also be looking at Streit if Philly is seeking to dump cap. It may be counter intuitive because of his age but, as a stop gap, he'd add exactly what we need from a skill/experience perspective and would help next season too. Weber + a small piece like Jensen? Then get Tryamkin over here for March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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