Warhippy Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 They can race all they want. we're still winning it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 That's what happens when you don't draft defensemen. Also, name 1 notable player drafted by Edmonton outside of the first round in the past 5 years....can't do it, cause their scouting sucks. The all time great GM's will tell you, build from the net out. Instead they went with all out offense which never works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 3 hours ago, etsen3 said: The Edmonton Oilers could trade the Edmonton Oilers for the Chicago Blackhawks and still finish last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon45ca Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 I think the team & their top picks have been losing for so long that it's become a state of mind. The longer you lose, the more you get used to it, & on some level even expect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokes Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 9 hours ago, guntrix said: With every passing game, it seems like the Oilers will be in the mix for the first overall again. Even with McDavid back later, I doubt they'll climb that much. It'll be interesting to see what happens in a few years when they realize they can't resign all these players and still stay under the cap. Not if the Canucks and their special teams have anything to say about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobble Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 If they draft Matthews, they need to trade 1-2 of their other young guys for good veteran defensemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 2 hours ago, BaerOxHitman said: That's what happens when you don't draft defensemen. Also, name 1 notable player drafted by Edmonton outside of the first round in the past 5 years....can't do it, cause their scouting sucks. The all time great GM's will tell you, build from the net out. Instead they went with all out offense which never works. This is it in a nutshell. From 2004-2012, the Oilers had 56 non-first-round picks. Of all those picks, how many have gone on to play 200+ games? ONE! Just Jeff Petry. Even though the Canucks are far from draft wizards, they had three. However, they were all from the 2004 draft: Alex Edler, Mike Brown, and Jannick Hansen. Part of our current problems is not finding any since. Contrast that with Chicago, who in the same period drafted Bolland, Bickell, Brouwer, Hjalmarsson, Kruger, Saad, and Shaw outside of the 1st round. Montreal found Emelin, Grabovski, Streit, Latendresse, D'Agostini, Kostitsyn, Subban, Weber, and Gallagher. Los Angeles unearthed Quick, Simmonds, Martinez, King, Clifford, and Nolan (not to mention Toffoli, who will be at 200 shortly). Rangers drafted Dubinsky, Callahan, Pyatt, Anisimov, Hagelin, Stepan, Weise. Nashville cleaned up with Santorelli, Rinne, Franson, Hornqvist, Spaling, Josi, Smith, Bourque... Just think of how much better off Edmonton's D would be if they managed to find a couple of defensemen like Subban, Streit, Edler, Hjalmarsson, Martinez, or Franson with their later picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 But this is the year...............everyone said......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwags Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 What Edmonton doesn't realize that the Canucks are taking the slow and steady approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 4 hours ago, Shift-4 said: But this is the year...............everyone said......... They improved on paper though! Same with that other Alberta team who allegedly got better. Yet the Canucks are still better than both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Gino Brash Ryp Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 It'll be pure bs if they get 1st overall again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 1 hour ago, RonMexico said: They improved on paper though! Same with that other Alberta team who allegedly got better. Yet the Canucks are still better than both. For how long can we stay ahead of these teams if they keep drafting ahead of us? As soon as the Twins go, so do we. I don't know how to get some top five picks, other than being crappy, but we need those types of prospects, and now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Their biggest mistake in my opinion was Yakupov over Murray.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 7 hours ago, Hobble said: If they draft Matthews, they need to trade 1-2 of their other young guys for good veteran defensemen. That's what's been said the past couple of years. They have yet to listen.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Juice Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 20 hours ago, ajhockey said: I'm not sure that exists outside of Price, Lundqvist, and Luongo in his prime. Hell, Corey Crawford can steal games for the Blackhawks even if they are playing a bad game. I've seen Crawford win games for the Hawks despite the Hawks playing terrible hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 7 minutes ago, Apple Juice said: Hell, Corey Crawford can steal games for the Blackhawks even if they are playing a bad game. I've seen Crawford win games for the Hawks despite the Hawks playing terrible hockey. Ben Scrivens stole games for the Oilers. Hell, Bernier stole games for the Leafs. Any goalie can steal games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 6 hours ago, The Lock said: Their biggest mistake in my opinion was Yakupov over Murray.... Actually, I take my statement back. Their biggest mistake was Yakupov over most of the defenders taken in the entire first round. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 13 hours ago, Alflives said: Ben Scrivens stole games for the Oilers. Hell, Bernier stole games for the Leafs. Any goalie can steal games. 13 hours ago, Apple Juice said: Hell, Corey Crawford can steal games for the Blackhawks even if they are playing a bad game. I've seen Crawford win games for the Hawks despite the Hawks playing terrible hockey. I think the key is that the Oilers need nearly every game stolen, not just every once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 11 minutes ago, ajhockey said: I think the key is that the Oilers need nearly every game stolen, not just every once in a while. Now, considering the Oilers have all these (so called) highly valued players in trade, why do they need their goalie to steal games? I keep hearing - on this board - that the Oilers have players worth guys like Seth Jones, or Travis Hamonic straight up; I just don't see that level of value in any of the Oilers not named McDavid. (Who is, of course, debatably to most valued player currently on the league.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Haha love it, karma is a beehatch. Hoped they enjoyed those cups in the 1980's... they were so humble about it, and sober. Just wait for the next McJesus injury(it'll happen). Trade away those 'flakes' and watch them become all stars (Dubynk). I bet RNH and Eberle are salivating over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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