2017 NHL Draft - Chicago, Illinois June 23-24 2017

[Qwags]

On 30/11/2016 at 7:28 PM, Warhippy said:

http://www.tsn.ca/craig-s-list-patrick-liljegren-occupy-top-two-spots-1.620528

 

Nolan Patrick of the Brandon Wheat Kings and Timothy Liljegren of the Swedish club Rogle occupy the top two spots in the November Craig’s List for the 2017 NHL Entry Draft.

 

Patrick, a centre, maintains his hold on the top spot from September, while Liljegren, a defenceman, remains in second.

 

Despite having only skated in a combined 10 games this season because of injury - Patrick with an upper-body injury after off-season sports hernia surgery and Liljegren with a bout of mononucleosis - no other player has demonstrated more potential than those two.

 

 

Patrick, who has nine points in six games this season, could end up playing in the fewest number of regular-season games by a first-overall pick since Gord Kluzak’s 38 in 1981-82 for the Billings Bighorns ahead of his selection by the Boston Bruins. The Wheat Kings have 48 games remaining.  

 

The top two prospects aren’t likely to meet at the 2017 World Junior Hockey Championship in Montreal and Toronto. Patrick was named to Canada’s selection camp roster Tuesday, but there is an expectation that he’ll need to be healthy and playing in WHL games before camp begins in Blainville, Que., on Dec. 11 to have a shot at making Team Canada. Liljegren is not expected to be on Team Sweden.

 

No. 3 Eeli Tolvanen of the Sioux City Musketeers in the United States Hockey League is a dynamic scoring winger who shows all the abilities of a gifted scorer and takes advantage of opportunities.

 

Centre Gabe Vilardi of the Windsor Spitfires was injured at the outset of the season, returned, and was very productive before suffering appendicitis and finding himself sidelined once again. Rated fourth on our board, his ability to generate offence and create scoring chances puts him in position to be in the discussion at the top of the draft.

 

Fifth-ranked Nico Hischier of the Halifax Mooseheads, a centre, has literally found his stride and is showing the ability to be a very dangerous and prolific offensive threat.

Martin Necas has been a very good player with Brno in the Czech Extra League, no easy feat for a 17-year-old centre. Our No. 6 possesses a high skill level and a determination to make things happen.

 

Nikita Popugaev, a very talented Russian forward playing in Moose Jaw, finds his way into the top 10 in the seventh spot and very well could be another player who challenges at the top of the draft in June.

 

With Patrick and Liljegren not having the games played to showcase their talents this season, the door is open for others to challenge at the top of the draft. While the opportunity exists, and some players have shown the potential, no one has been able to truly seize the day.

 

While there is a lot of time for evaluation before the draft, the return to play by Patrick and Liljegren may very well shut the door for others, making this a decision at first overall between a top-end centre and a top-end defenceman.

 

 

Craig's List - November Ranking

 

RK	PLAYER	TEAM	POS	HT	WT	GP	G	P
1	Nolan Patrick	Brandon (WHL)	C	6'2 ¾	198	6	4	9
2	Timothy Liljegren	Rögle (SHL)	D	6'0	191	4	0	2
2	Eeli Tolvanen	Sioux City (USHL)	RW	5'10 ¼	170	19	13	22
4	Gabe Vilardi	Windsor (OHL)	C	6'3	201	16	9	22
5	Nico Hischier	Halifax (QMJHL)	C	6'0 ¾	176	26	22	45
6	Martin Necas	Brno (Czech)	C	6'0 ½	167	25	5	12
7	Nikita Popugaev	Moose Jaw (WHL)	LW	6'5 ½	204	25	19	37
8	Ryan Poehling	St. Cloud St. (NCAA)	C	6'2 ½	202	11	3	5
9	Lias Andersson	HV71 (SHL)	LW/RW/C	5'11 ¼	198	20	4	8
10	Casey Mittelstadt	Green Bay (USHL)	C	6'0 ¼	194	16	8	21
11	Klim Kostin	Moscow (KHL)	RW	6'3	196	8	0	0
12	Matthew Strome	Hamilton (OHL)	LW	6'3 ½	206	25	15	27
13	Shane Bowers	Waterloo (USHL)	C	6'1 ¼	178	19	8	16
14	Kailer Yamamoto	Spokane (WHL)	RW	5'7 ½	153	21	17	31
15	Cody Glass	Portland (WHL)	C/RW	6'1 ¾	180	26	13	37
16	Michael Rasmussen	Tri-City (WHL)	C/LW	6'5 ¾	215	27	20	33
17	Owen Tippett	Mississuaga (OHL)	RW	6'1½	202	24	18	28
18	Elias Pettersson	Timrå (Sweden-Als)	LW	6'1 ¼	156	22	10	23
19	Miro Heiskanen	HIFK (SM Liiga)	D	6'0	170	22	3	7
20	Nick Suzuki	Owen Sound (OHL)	RW	5'10 ¾	187	27	16	34
21	U-P Luukkonen	HPK U20 (SM Jr. Liiga)	G	6'0 ¼	170	18	1.56	0.917
22	Kristian Vesalainen	HPK (SM Liiga)	LW	6'3 ¼	207	5	0	0
23	Maxime Comtois	Victoriaville (QMJHL)	LW	6'2 ¼	199	27	8	16
24	Cal Foote	Kelowna (WHL)	D	6'3 ½	213	25	2	17
25	Noel Hoefenmayer	Ottawa (OJHL)	D	6'0 ¼	191	21	7	16
26	Grant Mismash	USA NTDP (USHL)	LW/C	6'0 ¼	186	25	7	17
27	Marcus Davidsson	Djurgårdens (SHL)	C	6'0	191	21	5	6
28	Nate Schnarr	Guelph (OHL)	C	6'2 ¾	180	21	8	14
29	Cale Makar	Brooks (AJHL)	D	5'10 ¼	171	25	9	27
30	Nicholas Hague	Mississuaga (OHL)	D	6'5 ½	206	23	8	17
31	Jusso Valimaki	Tri-City (WHL)	D	6'1 ½	204	27	10	30
32	P-Olivier Joseph	Charlottetown (QMJHL)	D	6'2	160	26	4	25
33	Isaac Ratcliffe	Guelph (OHL)	LW	6'5 ½	196	26	10	23
34	Henri Jokiharju	Portland (WHL)	D	5'11 ¾	176	26	2	14
35	Joel Teasdale	B-Boisbriand (QMJHL)	C/LW	5'11 ¼	190	26	9	22
36	Joni Ikonen	Frolunda (SWE-J20)	C	5'10	169	19	15	23
37	Morgan Frost	Sault. Ste. Marie (OHL)	C	5'10 ¾	170	26	11	24
38	Michael Dipietro	Windsor (OHL)	G	6'0	196	17	2.55	0.909
39	Markus Phillips	Owen Sound (OHL)	D	5'11 ¾	202	27	4	10
40	Maxim Zhukov	Green Bay (USHL)	G	6'2 ½	188	11	2.35	0.905
41	Mason Shaw	Medicine Hat (WHL)	C/LW	5'8 ½	180	26	5	40
42	Aleksei Heponiemi	Swift Current (WHL)	C	5'9 ¾	147	28	6	31
43	Conor Timins	Sault Ste. Marie (OHL)	D	6'1 ¼	185	26	3	20
44	Josh Norris	USA NTDP (USHL)	C	6'1 ¼	192	22	7	15
45	A. Crete-Belzile	B-Boisbriand (QMJHL)	D	6'0	186	14	0	2
46	Antoine Morand	A-Bathurst (QMJHL)	C	5'10	178	27	13	28
47	J. Anderson-Dolan	Spokane (WHL)	C	5'10 ¾	180	24	10	19
48	Jake Leschyshyn	Regina (WHL)	C/LW	5'10 ¾	184	23	10	24
49	Tyler Inamoto	USA NTDP (USHL)	D	6'1 ½	194	24	1	5
50	David Farrance	USA NTDP (USHL)	D	5'10 ¾	189	25	4	13
51	Jake Oettinger	Boston U (NCAA)	G	6'4	203	10	2.02	0.922
52	Eemeli Rasanen	Kingston (OHL)	D	6'6 ¼	216	24	3	11
53	Jarrett Tyszka	Seattle (WHL)	D	6'2 ¼	190	23	2	11
54	Urho Vaakanainen	Jyvaskala (SM Liiga)	D	6'0 ½	185	18	2	2
55	Jason Robertson	Kingston (OHL)	LW	6'1 ¾	192	24	10	20
56	Evan Barratt	USA NTDP (USHL)	C	5'11 ½	188	23	5	19
57	Scott Reedy	USA NTDP (USHL)	C/RW	6'1 ½	204	25	8	17
58	Cale Fleury	Kootenay (WHL)	D	6'1 ¼	212	27	6	16
59	Robin Salo	Vassan (SM Liiga)	D	6'0 ¾	187	21	1	7
60	Ivan Lodnia	Erie (OHL)	LW/C	5'10	182	25	11	26
61	Mackenzie Entwistle	Hamilton (OHL)	C/RW	6'2 ¾	180	25	10	19
62	Greg Meireles	Kitchener (OHL)	C/RW	5'9 ¾	172	25	7	23
63	Ostap Safin	Sparta Jr. (Czech Jr.)	RW	6'4 ½	191
64	Artyom Minulin	Swift Current (WHL)	D	6'2 ¼	202
65	Ian Scott	Prince Albert (WHL)	G	6'3 ¼	174
66	Alexei Lipanov	HK MVD Balashikha (MHL)	C	6'0	165
67	Paul Washe	Tri-City (USHL)	C	6'1	191
68	Maksim Sushko	Owen Sound (OHL)	RW	5'11 ¾	181
69	Luke Martin	Michigan (NCAA - B10)	D	6'3 ¾	216
70	Cayden Primeau	Lincoln (USHL)	G	6'2 ¾	177
71	Michael Anderson	Waterloo (USHL)	D	5'11 ½	196
72	Clayton Phillips	Fargo (USHL)	D	5'10 ½	170
73	Ian Mitchell	Spruce Grove (AJHL)	D	5'11	171
74	Jacob Paquette	Kingston (OHL)	D	6'2 ¾	207
75	Stelio Mattheos	Brandon (WHL)	C	6'0 ¾	190

That Top 5...

[WTG]

Josh Norris at 44 is a absolute steal, this kid is top 30.

 

If we keep our 2nd and Norris does land that late we snatch him up. Watched him play against Lockwood's team and he was their best player.

[winthecup]

Owen Tippett looks intriguing. 20 goals in 27 games in the OHL so far this season. Not sure why Button has him so low. is he a defensive liability ? 

[S N Y P E R S 7]

17 hours ago, WTG said:

Josh Norris at 44 is a absolute steal, this kid is top 30.

 

If we keep our 2nd and Norris does land that late we snatch him up. Watched him play against Lockwood's team and he was their best player.

Josh Norris is a REALLY good player; I'd be surprised if he falls below 20. He's consistent, works hard, and is productive at both ends of the ice. 
We'll see how things go for him, but I've had my eye on Josh Norris since last year. 

[S N Y P E R S 7]

Nick Suzuki reminds me a lot of Brayden point of the Tampa Bay Lightning. Spunk, thick game, good offensive ability. 

[Where'd Luongo?]

I drafted Nolan Patrick onto the Canucks on NHL 17 and he took over for Henrik Sedin after 1 year, so we should definitely draft him! He went second overall and I traded Edmonton a used condom and a pair of Tacks for that pick.

[Where'd Luongo?]

We should look at the Swift Current Broncos though, Artyom Minulin and Aleksi Heponiemi are right dece.

Edited December 6, 2016 by Where'd Luongo?

[Canucks Curse]

Canucks are going to draft in the 5th-7th spots so talk of Patrick and liljgren are just pipe dreams - we are looking at that second tier : mittelstadt, hirschier, Tippett, Rasmussen etc and even then hirschier and mittelstadt could be gone then

[Boudrias]

On ‎12‎/‎6‎/‎2016 at 7:55 AM, Canucks Curse said:

Canucks are going to draft in the 5th-7th spots so talk of Patrick and liljgren are just pipe dreams - we are looking at that second tier : mittelstadt, hirschier, Tippett, Rasmussen etc and even then hirschier and mittelstadt could be gone then

Nope. The Canucks will pull a Winnipeg!

[cyoung]

On 05/12/2016 at 5:13 PM, Where'd Luongo? said:

We should look at the Swift Current Broncos though, Artyom Minulin and Aleksi Heponiemi are right dece.

Heponiemi is so Damn small haha if he drops to 3rd.....lol

[Blömqvist]

I wonder how that Finnish WJC will fare. They won last year because of Puljujarvi and Laine and Aho and had a good supportng cast but we'll see this year. Hopefully Juolevi and Tolvanen can connect and generate in the offensive zone if Puljujarvi doesn't go. And how WHL defenseman Jusso Valimaki will fare. He could be a good early 2nd round pick or if we get a late 1st too.

 

 

[Conscience]

On December 6, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Canucks Curse said:

Canucks are going to draft in the 5th-7th spots so talk of Patrick and liljgren are just pipe dreams - we are looking at that second tier : mittelstadt, hirschier, Tippett, Rasmussen etc and even then hirschier and mittelstadt could be gone then

We could easily draft higher, you're completely guessing by saying that. 

I Iike the top 6 in this draft anyways.

[Derp...]

Just a shot in the dark, but guessing we pick 3rd overall this year and win the last lottery spot regardless of where we finish.

 

1. Vegas (Cause the Canucks had these odds last year)

2. Colorado (Worst team get's second spot)

3. Vancouver (moves from 4th to 3rd, and everyone complains about how if Vegas wasn't in this we would have gotten Patrick or Liljegren [subbed again])

4. Arizona

[Odd.]

Ryan Poehling (6'3 186) as a 17 year old is playing in the NCAA? How come we don't see more of those people? The only one I can think of playing in the NCAA in his draft year is Eichel.

 

 

[Blömqvist]

1 hour ago, Odd. said:

Ryan Poehling (6'3 186) as a 17 year old is playing in the NCAA? How come we don't see more of those people? The only one I can think of playing in the NCAA in his draft year is Eichel.

 

 

 

Charlie McAvoy played for Boston University last year (his draft year) and scored 25 points in 37 games. This year, his draft+1 year, he has 12 points in 14 games. 

 

By comparison, Dante Fabbro -- who was drafted three spots later and spent his season in the BCHL -- has 6 points in 14 games playin on the same BU team as McAvoy.

 

I don't know much about Poehling but I mean it could be worthwhile to draft someone with NCAA experience if we find ourselves in the middle of the first round. Button said he projects to be a top 6 centre.

[TheSnipeshow91]

4 hours ago, Derp... said:

Just a shot in the dark, but guessing we pick 3rd overall this year and win the last lottery spot regardless of where we finish.

 

1. Vegas (Cause the Canucks had these odds last year)

2. Colorado (Worst team get's second spot)

3. Vancouver (moves from 4th to 3rd, and everyone complains about how if Vegas wasn't in this we would have gotten Patrick or Liljegren [subbed again])

4. Arizona

Picking 3rd would be perfect, guarantees us one of the big 3.  ( Hischier, Patrick, Liljegren )

Edited December 9, 2016 by TheSnipeshow91

[Canucks Curse]

3 hours ago, TheSnipeshow91 said:

Picking 3rd would be perfect, guarantees us one of the big 3.  ( Hischier, Patrick, Liljegren )

I'd be happy with vilardi or mittelstadt as well

[Bobby_Lu1ngo]

8 hours ago, Derp... said:

Just a shot in the dark, but guessing we pick 3rd overall this year and win the last lottery spot regardless of where we finish.

 

1. Vegas (Cause the Canucks had these odds last year)

2. Colorado (Worst team get's second spot)

3. Vancouver (moves from 4th to 3rd, and everyone complains about how if Vegas wasn't in this we would have gotten Patrick or Liljegren [subbed again])

4. Arizona

I will bet you $10,000 that the 3rd overall draft pick in this summers NHL draft will be Las Vegas.

[Vinny in Vancouver]

3 minutes ago, Bobby_Lu1ngo said:

I will bet you $10,000 that the 3rd overall draft pick in this summers NHL draft will be Las Vegas.

I wish I were a betting man so that I could take you on!

[Derp...]

4 hours ago, Bobby_Lu1ngo said:

I will bet you $10,000 that the 3rd overall draft pick in this summers NHL draft will be Las Vegas.

That's a bet I would take 10/10 times. I didn't even know Las Vegas was a prospect worth drafting. What league is he playing in?